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Old 01-26-2017, 05:15 PM   #201
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Yeah, wtf is up with that?
It's so that end bosses like PaulV cant observe a full table and wait for a reg to leave so PaulV can hop into this awesome game hes been observing, or decide to not hop in bc he sees all regs left.

Same reason there are no waiting lists, anon SN, 4 table max, etc - to protect recs like myself from you full time monsters.

Also, if anyone plays on swcpoker.eu I asked them for a .5 btc 12 game mix tourney like 1-2 months ago and they finally got back to me today saying yeah great idea, what time should it start. Theres a thread in internet poker. I posted more about it.

My guess is now that traffic has picked up, particularly in the mix games over there, they are willing to do this, albeit w no guarantee. I told them they should promote this hard and it could become a tourney w some legs and prestige, like the 530 Friday 8g on stars. But 12g has Ba, Bd, single draw, and badugi added.

Babar's site also has info and links to setting up on there.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:49 PM   #202
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https://www.twitch.tv/liveatthebike

Tonight at 10PM/7PM EST/PST btw.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:56 PM   #203
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:00 PM   #204
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omg I've been looking for that picture. I love you Clay.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:12 PM   #205
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Haha, the gif is delightful. The poo flinging really makes it work.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:48 PM   #206
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Except that after like 10 hands of spectating it kicks you...so that doesn't work either.
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Old 01-27-2017, 01:21 AM   #207
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Broadcast was amazing, i learned many new techniques and took detailed notes, all starting with "LOL". At what bar is Limon buying rounds?
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Old 01-27-2017, 01:44 AM   #208
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commerce bar i think
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:37 AM   #209
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Eaat coast made me sleepy but wow what a silly game.

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Old 01-27-2017, 11:14 AM   #210
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if thats what a normal 40 game looks like during LAPC then lol

(i know it was a 20 game but i'm just guessing)
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:11 PM   #211
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Did Jesse8888 show up? or that younger Jesse9999?
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:41 PM   #212
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Yes, there is still plenty of lhe action on Ignition. Compared to ACR, there are more games, softer games (generally), and its anonymous. Not that ACR doesn't have games, but I'd estimate there is like a 10/1 ratio of flhe games that are running on Ignition/ACR. Also, once a table fills on Ignition you cant see it from the lobby.

Babar has a lot of info re the features of the site, setting up account, etc so prob easiest to just ask him if he can assist you.
Good info. Thanks. I'm going to have to look into ignition. So there probably aren't any HUDs possible for ignition then? It being completely anynonmyus makes things interesting, especially for someone like me that hasn't really played seriously online since before BF.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:37 PM   #213
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Looking for more action on a running prop if anyone wants to gamble.

Little background: 2-3 weeks ago typical stupid props being thrown around and I end up making small treadmill bet. I was 6'3 246 at the time and have don't basically no exercise for last 10 years. Ran a 8:17 mile on treadmill and luckily didn't have a heart attack.... few days later booked a bet where I have to run 6 minute treadmill mile by June 1st.

I'm getting 5-1 and currently have 2k to win 10 but would like more action. I have not been on a treadmill since but have been exercising. Looking for maybe 2-3k more if anyone wants to gamble
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:21 AM   #214
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2k to get in shape is not a bad deal.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:44 AM   #215
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Happy new year!
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:54 AM   #216
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JL, that is a very interesting prop bet. I have seen similar, but usually the time period is way too short to create a realistic chance. Some people simply are not capable of running under 6 in the mile no matter what and some people can do it pretty easily. Your athletic background when you were younger, your current age, and your knowledge of proper training are all very important. My only suggestion would be to make it a 1600 on the track... treadmills are not very accurate and are very awkward to run on once you get going at that speed.

I am not sure what you weigh now, but getting under 200 pounds would help a ton. It is not totally necessary, but it is just much more rare for a 6'3 210 guy to run under 6 than a 6'3 190 pounder. The standard rule of thumb is that every pound of extra weight you carry adds 2 seconds per mile to your running times.

The odds look promising for both sides... as the odds suggest, you have a chance but need to really bust your ass as well as have some natural talent. If you were a track star in high school, it should be very doable. If you were the captain of the chess team because you got cut from every sports team, then you might be in trouble!
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:14 AM   #217
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I'll second what Unguarded said. I've done around a dozen marathons as well as many shorter races and my best mile time when I was younger and more flexible was a 7:15. My hip flexers just don't let me get faster than that. The one thing that I found that really improved my time was interval training.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:14 PM   #218
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Agree with the above.

Especially with running, injury history matters. Do you have bad knees, shins, back, etc? Even seasoned runners seem to commonly miss chunks of time, and going from 0 to pretty serious has additional risks. To avoid injury, you want to increase training volume slowly. To reach an ambitious goal, you want to get at it immediately. Those things work against each other. As UG mentioned, being heavy doesn't help matters. Maybe focusing on base while losing weight early would help?

I could give you some decent advice on how to do this cycling, but running is different. For that amount of money, I'd probably hire a trainer. The problem is, the training market is as bad or worse than the poker coaching market -- if you're not an expert, how do you even know the person you get isn't full of it?

As a cyclist, 6 minutes seems short. NFS's idea about interval training seems spot on. You need some base to put that intensity on top of. Most of the folks I know who run do hill intervals, but they're all maniacs. Skinny people who do trail running and qualify for Boston might not be a good guide for milers.
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Is this limited to one official attempt, or can you try as many times as you want until you succeed or run out of time?
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:37 PM   #219
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The weight loss is definitely a must and also the main reason I made the bet. If I lose 50 pounds and pay 2k ill be very happy. My biggest concern is definetly small injuries (no shin splints so far but knees have been hurting).

I was never anything close to a track star but we ran a ton in college and 6 minute treadmill miles were fairy routine/easy. But that was many years and many pounds ago
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:05 PM   #220
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You should probably have 80%+ of your cardio be nontreadmill, such as bike, swimming and eliptical to reduce injury chances if you only need to do 1 mile

You can do more running as you get closer but total mileage is relatively unimportant, mostly you just need to know if you can manage the 6:00 speed for a brief period
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:25 PM   #221
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The weight loss is definitely a must and also the main reason I made the bet. If I lose 50 pounds and pay 2k ill be very happy.
If weight loss is a goal and money is a motivator, why not do something more long term / sustainable like penalizing yourself 10c/day/lb for every day you're over your target weight?

Put the money in a jar and donate it to Communist Party USA or something that would really give you incentive to lose the weight.

The problem with the prop bets I see on MSLHE are that their utility functions are discontinuous; there's a lot of incentive to hit a very specific target at a very specific time, and it neither builds good habits nor continues the incentives after a specific time.

Certainly you don't want to set yourself up for the scenario where T minus 2 weeks you're halfway there and give up because your utility function is totally flat between +1 lb and +50 lbs or between 6:01 and 8:30.
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:36 PM   #222
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agree with callipygian, i wish there was a way to track this but my hunch is that people who typically do these lifestyle propbets just end up becoming potatoes when their bet ends. they go from 0 to 100 and finish it, winning the money, but they are totally withered with the fitness that got them there and they "take it easy" for a while, ending up at a equilibrium point that's not a huge improvement over the previous status quo.

felt like jumping in to talk about this because i'm currently doing a 90 day bounty system. every day i don't send my friend a timelapse video of that day's p90x workout, i donate a painful amount of money to a charity of his choice.

i plan on doing a new bounty system when the 90 days ends, and ideally just continue doing bounty systems until my fitness/body are good enough that I can have enough motivation to keep going just to maintain that positive body image. gotta go through a lot of pain before you get into a positive feedback loop.

IMO constant downside pain is a better motivator than a net positive gain in accomplishment
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:45 PM   #223
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If weight loss is a goal and money is a motivator, why not do something more long term / sustainable like penalizing yourself 10c/day/lb for every day you're over your target weight?

Put the money in a jar and donate it to Communist Party USA or something that would really give you incentive to lose the weight.
so you would be equally motivated having to pay $16 or winning, say 20k?
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:49 PM   #224
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IMO constant downside pain is a better motivator than a net positive gain in accomplishment
it may be a better motivator but its certainly a worse financial decision.
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Old 01-28-2017, 04:06 PM   #225
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it may be a better motivator but its certainly a worse financial decision.
yeah i visualize a financial ev vs. life ev curve for this situation, just depends where people want to be on that curve. i have still yet to lose any money 30 days in and haven't missed a workout so i'm happy but i know my situation is a marathon and not a prop bet sprint.

also depends on the size of the penalty for a day missed, that's another value curve.

ideally i'd want someone mirroring my challenge since my opponent's failure means money goes to a charity of my choice (same life ev motivator but extra financial ev) but you take what you can get i guess.
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