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12-15-2017 , 07:05 PM
Yeah that play is not otr approved. Sorry PaulValente.


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12-15-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
another qasim story:

we're playing an 80 game at the borg and i open JJ in EMP, future 3bs me (paul valente for those unfamiliar with his real name), and qasim cold mother f***ing caps from the button. blinds fold i call, future calls, and we're off

something like T72cc comes off (i have the jc) and i k/r qasim's bet, future thinks for a minute and calls (to me looked like he was pondering a 3b but i could be wrong). i cap and they both call.

turn is an offsuit 6. i bet, now future springs to life and raises and qasim 3bets. now i'm thinking "this is one of those get to showdown hands, but i don't see what i can possibly beat. the only possibility is if they both have a ten, which means one had to 3b and one had to cold cap my ep raise - they're both thinking players - with a ten in their hand." so, ofc, i folded like a cheap suit. i put future on something like an overpair or maybe TT or 77 and qasim maybe on an overpair too (NOTE this was AFTER a long stretch of "silent qasim" so he this was the first hand after a long period of 9% VPIP).

river comes an offsuit 5. the future of poker checks and calls to see qasim's killer 4c3c for the rivered straight. i was quite dumbfounded lol.

that's the thing about qasim. he may do crazy things and he may play loose preflop, but he does know his customers pretty well and he recognizes where he is postflop. he thought future could have had a draw and was certain i had an overpair and if he could knock me out, he might clear up 6 outs, which is indeed what happened. i don't remember what future had but i think maybe ATs? i do know had i called and had nothing hit qasim, i'd have won the pot.

i'll put up some other fun stuff if i can recall. jlot played a bunch w/ him too though i'm not sure how well the scotch goggles remember things lol
more stories, please.
12-15-2017 , 08:28 PM
But also stop calling him future
12-15-2017 , 08:36 PM
Pretty sure I'm never playing AT that way, but I don't remember the hand so who knows. I've played hands worse.

On the east coast I was given the nickname Future (everyone gets a nickname on the east coast) On the west coast I'm known as The White Guy.
12-15-2017 , 09:08 PM
East coasters have a mean sense of humor
12-15-2017 , 09:13 PM
Oh it's definitely a needle, not a compliment.
12-15-2017 , 10:01 PM
Dicks
12-16-2017 , 01:08 AM
Wtf is that hand? You capped the flop? Who 3b?


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12-16-2017 , 01:34 AM
Probably the same level 0 potato who raised the turn because he had top pair
12-16-2017 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
Probably the same level 0 potato who raised the turn because he had top pair


Mmmm potato.


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12-16-2017 , 01:42 AM
We just took the kill off in our 30/60 game so we can straddle every hand. No gamble no future!
12-16-2017 , 01:50 AM
He says ironically in a poker room with a $100 bet cap
12-16-2017 , 10:18 AM
zing
12-16-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
I meant Paul’s. I have no problem with how zz played it
how dare you question the future of poker!?!?!
12-16-2017 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulValente
Oh it's definitely a needle, not a compliment.
I don’t mean it as an insult nor a compliment. The future just simply is. But obv if it bugs you I’ll stop.
12-16-2017 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Wtf is that hand? You capped the flop? Who 3b?


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Sorry. Qasim 3b after Paul called. I’m happy w that many bets (qasim is always super agro post). Planned on betting nonbad turns and calling down if qasim raised again. I’d rather get the extra bet in on the flop vs check the turn after just calling. I’m checking club turns and A/K/Q turns.
12-16-2017 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulValente
Pretty sure I'm never playing AT that way, but I don't remember the hand so who knows. I've played hands worse.

On the east coast I was given the nickname Future (everyone gets a nickname on the east coast) On the west coast I'm known as The White Guy.
Maybe I got the board wrong and you had 99? I am sure you had a 2nd best pair hand and qasim had 34cc for a rivered straight.

And if you’d prefer me not call you future then lemme know. I’ve never meant it insultingly.
12-16-2017 , 12:38 PM
Wow I think you all butchered it 2017! NC/LC THREAD! let us gogogogo


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12-16-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
I don’t mean it as an insult nor a compliment. The future just simply is. But obv if it bugs you I’ll stop.
Haha no no, it's a sweet nickname. But it was first given to me by AK sarcastically after BF when I was "the online guy" and ran well. It went something like "what is this guy, the ****ing future of poker??"
12-16-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
Maybe I got the board wrong and you had 99? I am sure you had a 2nd best pair hand and qasim had 34cc for a rivered straight.
In that case I'll take AT 2017! NC/LC THREAD! let us gogogogo It was probably AcTc, just because that's how ZZ runs.
12-17-2017 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
but the pf cap was fine, right lol?



he looked at the turn raise like this:



- i am almost surely behind future, but

- i'm definitely behind uphill

- i'm calling these 2 bets anyways so if i expend 1 more bet, i may be able to get uphill to fold his overpair. if that happens, the times future doesn't yet have a pair, i win the whole pot either by bluffing the river or hitting a 3/4 and checking behind assuming he doesn't hit. even though that's a small probability, the payoff is huge when it happens.



that rationale in flow is admirable imo. the pf cap though lol.....


The guy raised at every opportunity the whole hand. You sure seem to give his thought process on the turn a lot of credit. Maybe he was thinking “durrrrrrr I get to raise again now!”
12-17-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulValente
Haha no no, it's a sweet nickname. But it was first given to me by AK sarcastically after BF when I was "the online guy" and ran well. It went something like "what is this guy, the ****ing future of poker??"
Haha I remember when AK gave it to you. Good times. I'm sad he never gave me one.
12-17-2017 , 06:52 PM
Zziegler play closer to solver than any of you guys. I remember my first time digging deeper and realizing this guy is like 10 years ahead everyone in term of max. exploitative. Of course his pre flop is super loose but that not the point since no one close in live is solving for pre.
12-17-2017 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Zziegler play closer to solver than any of you guys. I remember my first time digging deeper and realizing this guy is like 10 years ahead everyone in term of max. exploitative. Of course his pre flop is super loose but that not the point since no one close in live is solving for pre.


Ok but this guy isn’t zziegler...


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12-17-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Zziegler play closer to solver than any of you guys. I remember my first time digging deeper and realizing this guy is like 10 years ahead everyone in term of max. exploitative. Of course his pre flop is super loose but that not the point since no one close in live is solving for pre.
Yea cold calling an UTG raise with 73o is super exploitative. He is a good guy and all but I've seen him dust off 10 racks when he starts losing and never folds the flop or turn no matter how slim he's drawing.

Which is ok in a 3 handed game but when he is running at 45 VPIP in a 9 handed game, at some point you have to fold A6o UTG+2 on a KKT board against a SB 3B. He calls down hits an ace OTR and gets x/raised by TT.

      
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