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Originally Posted by PaulValente
Yeah, I think you just have to deal with it.
I think so too. His win rate is potentially higher against a table full of mediocre players who played fast, ime. So, table changing is an option. Otherwise, just deal with it.
Perhaps some math is in order. If the guy is throwing away 1 big bets a hand, for example, then depending on your position, you get a theoretical share of that each hand. 20 hands and hr is -20BB / hr. In that case, you have to stay, and put up with it. You'd think nobody could possibly play that bad, but at the extreme, we've all seen live ones that do that poorly. At least, they do their first times at the table, then usually the worst players are what, say, -4BB/hr?
From other player's perspectives, they don't get to be in a game where they are a winner too often. 20 / 8 is +2.5BB which will turn a -1.5BB loser into a 1BB winner. Even at -4 / 8, a -1.5BB loser is now only losing -1BB and is 2/3 less unproductive (or 3/2 as productive to avoid the double negative). Naturally, they will be more upset than you will be if the live one adjusts their play in an unfavorable way, and be the ones to say, "Don't rock the boat." It'd be very unfriendly to them. But, depending on how live the live one is, you can make a case for changing tables or putting up with it. But, it's a little too unfriendly for me personally to "rock the boat" in this circumstance.
Compare that with players who will lose ~0.4BB/hr, because you're getting more hands per hour. You'd be making 2.8BB/hr as the only winner among mediocre players playing fast. So, it depends on what you think your hourly rate estimation is at that table and whether you overcome the time handicap. The worst players are actually playing better by stalling if you consider time rather than hands.
Last edited by leavesofliberty; 08-28-2017 at 03:30 PM.