the guy that c/r the TT is way worst than his call down. If you guys actually do some work off the table maybe something isn't as bad as it seem and other things that look standard are awful

What you’re saying is all true but this guy isn’t Zeigler. It’s just some random guy who claims he is. At least that’s my understanding based on what I’ve been told.

Considering that I do trade with him the past few week BTC and paid 4k to get coach by him 2.5 ago skype/phone and play with him on stars and discussing player tendency. I mean he wasn't as good as a coach due to fact the things he explain didn't make sense unless you play around with solver but that was after the fact. I mean I feel bad that I post our chat on here without asking him first maybe he doesn't want people to know he made that much.

That's fine. He was always one of the best players on stars when I played those games, but I also never really saw him get out of line in the ways people have described here. I've never met the guy and certainly never played with him live so obviously I could have heard wrong.

no idea if its same person or not, but if its was wouldn't he just be even better if he played exaclty the same and just didn't cold 4 bet 3-4. I think I played more hands vs him online than any other player and he was very tough, but like OTR said while there was some gamble nothing like this that I recall.

But, I've def done my share of just for fun 3 bet/caps before so that could easily be the case

I don't think you guys should be revealing names of players unless they are clearly open to it like PaulV. Should respect their privacy

You don't need a nickname, you're Dinesh!

I don't think so.

I'm still not sure what to believe.

Lol, I was thinking that . . .

anybody from foxwoods remember that jay vs. zeke hand? i'm pretty sure those were the actors.

it went something like this:

zeke (typically tight/pretty decent reg) opens from like the hj or maybe 1-2 positions earlier.

jay (very tight reg who knows zeke suuuper well and they know each other) 3b from the sb, zeke 4b and jay calls.

flop was something like A29 and it goes bet/raise/call

turn was some blank. bet raise 3b call (maybe? maybe just bet/call)

river was the 3x and it goes bet, raise(1), raise(2), raise(3), raise(4), raise(5), raise(6), raise(7), raise(8), raise(9), and finally jay just calls the 10th bet.

i wanna be sure that was the action. can anybody confirm? also for those who've never heard of this hand, what would you guess the 2 hands are ?

KQ and 77?

dude, c'mon lol. these are tight and competent regs. they have hands. it's one of those "ohhhh, i see why this went so bonkers" when you know the hands. it doesn't make one or the other overall play great, but it does show what happens when you are 100% certain of a read and don't change it until you're faced w/ the 10bet lol

45 and AA, and hand does not deliver

Ignore all analysis below since I thought turn was a 3.

I feel like someone has 33 but it doesn't make sense for Zeke to 4-bet and raise the A29 flop, and ofc it doesn't make sense for Jay to stop with 4 of a kind on the river.

So Zeke should have AA, leaving Jay with A3 or 99. Definitely too much action given though if that's the case.

So I guess I'll abandon all logic I've applied to pre-river and say Jay has AA and Zeke has 33.

Lol, sorry, trolling. The obv guess would be AA and 45, but it sounds like it's going to be 2 wtf??? hands.

i also still need some fw folks to confirm that's how the hand went down. jay's a good dude but can be pretty intense, so to see him specifically lose to zeke in this fashion must have been pretty crazy.

and yea cap'n r got it. jay had AA and zeke had 54s. jay later apparently said the pf cap and flop raise made him "sure" zeke didn't have 54s lol

and when the 4th bet goes in on the river, it would be a pretty good time to reevaluate that surety.

seems that should be obv. and all I can think is that jay is not able to comprehend what zeke puts him on. bc given the action, it should be pretty obv that jay has aa, and yet zeke is still giving action. so, I dont think its rocket science to understand that zeke is not scared of aa and thus its time to slow the hell down.

yes, yes it would have been a good time. but the surety was unwavering until the 10th bet went in for some reason. and i still need somebody from FW to verify this is what indeed happened. anybody?

So where exactly is Foxwoods?

Connecticut

not sure why you guys aren't playing bodog it so soft... probably 5x softer than live. Come join me and make bodog great again.

whoever just played me head up let me know if you want to continue it more later. pm me

Zzeigler! My favorite guy with which to play in the day. I always called him ziggy. He liked to call me DrDesparado.

This is your friend DrElo. Y'all should come play LHE on GlobalPoker. Nobody plays, me and the old boy from Stars ymmij5241 or whatever the numbers are are the only semi-regs. They run up to 20/40. It'd be pretty cool to get an LHE ecosystem there, they run no other limit games at all so nobody is on the site except for bigbet players.

I am robusto. I happen to be the winningest donkament player on the entire site. Come on over. Games are non-anonymous.

Going on ultra 100vpip tilt is way less costly in tournaments!

vaguely considering heading out for the Commerce series, but probably not quite robusto enough yet

anybody PM me in order to see my sharkscope graph and stake a fellow minbet pro for MTTs (and/or for the 40+ LHE games)!