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Originally Posted by JLot
Got ya, so we agree our GTO range is still unbeatable as a whole, but if we lop off the bottom piece of that because the guy is a showdown monkey we gain compared to a standard GTO range via the exploitation. I think we're on the same page.
One risk of course is that our opponent suddenly realizes that we're opening a bit tighter against him and he adapts by showing down less than is optimal. Now we are the one being exploited! Granted I doubt there are many who are that sophisticated.
it could work in both ways.
if the field stox pulled data from was too tight, passive or folded too much on later streets he would show a profit on opens that might not in a gto environment.
this is in response to your post where you said,
"If our opponents do not play perfectly that means we can open marginally more hands compared to GTO based ranges. If we play perfectly (big assumption) and our opponents do not that would argue that we can play even wider than GTO preflop."
which is not always true.
if your opponent is making really brutal mistakes then sure, you can open 100% on the button, but generally the mistakes are quite small and have a differential impact on the top vs the bottom of your range.