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20/40 for a living? Is it realistic? 20/40 for a living? Is it realistic?

11-23-2019 , 05:10 PM
People that seem to think that because you are winning at poker means it easy to get another job. Which means to me they think poker is hard? I have the opposite view point I think poker is super easy.I am always surprise why isn't everyone making +150 an hour online. I also love poker I can't get enough off it. Nothing like putting in the effort and getting the result. I wish more people would play it so I can collect more money. Also forgot my background have high school diploma, don't know how to use excel. Only real job ever is at the movie theater 10 years ago.

I do love the pity that you guys have on live guys though.

Anyone with half a brain can make this money if they just buy solver put in 300 hours of deliberate practice.



Do you guys see how much of a d.ick it sound when I say poker is super easy and why bother with other job.

Last edited by DonJuan; 11-23-2019 at 05:23 PM.
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11-23-2019 , 05:27 PM
So in 4 years you made 125k/yr with no guaranteed income, self employment tax, and no benefits? Doesn’t sound that great to me.
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11-23-2019 , 05:30 PM
lol what makes you think I don't pay self employed taxes. look at per hour. Why waste time doing more when you get do less and get more time. I spend the rest of my other time reading book and spending quality time with my family. How many hours do you get stuck in traffic. Also I get to travel and since I was away for U.S the past 8 years I have 95k deductible per year. But thanks note taken of how much di.ck it sound just like the guys giving condensing advice about how hard poker is and that if they learn something else they would make more.

I haven't gotten good quality sleep though maybe I am more cranky then usually. But I can't help but find the irony when the situation is reverse and I make fun of anyone that can't make more than +150 an hour online

Last edited by DonJuan; 11-23-2019 at 05:37 PM.
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11-23-2019 , 05:54 PM
I said that you have to pay self employment taxes which makes the income worth less.
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11-23-2019 , 06:00 PM
ah ok and I wasn't going to mention that this is only one site either and it not like it hhs I pull from the site it has it hhs grabber and over the years it doesn't grab probably +75k worth of hands that I won. And also that I win at other site too. So idk maybe add in another +150k. Would that be good enough to cover for the self employer taxes that I have to pay. Also I am guessing you live in Cali. How the cost of living doing to your paycheck
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11-23-2019 , 06:40 PM
While I am at it. I find the quote "It makes me a bit sad, especially for the kids under 40 that could still take advantage of their gifts for analytics and math. I never say anything though, everybody has a story and it's really none of my business." Really you really feel sad for grown up dude that play poker for whatever reason. How do you feel about kids that don't have electricity in there home to do homework in third world country and all they want is some guys to ship them 40 buck an month. They have plenty of potential for analytics and math. I hope you didn't feel excruciating pain and find the quickest site to ship them money.

You know what I think when people like you or other that agree with you? I find that you guys full of s.hit and you feel a sense of being better than the person in front of you at the casino. I also think you guys are the type that after a long day outside to come home and first thing they do is take out their socks and smell it and loving the it.
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11-23-2019 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
People that seem to think that because you are winning at poker means it easy to get another job. Which means to me they think poker is hard? I have the opposite view point I think poker is super easy.I am always surprise why isn't everyone making +150 an hour online. I also love poker I can't get enough off it. Nothing like putting in the effort and getting the result. I wish more people would play it so I can collect more money. Also forgot my background have high school diploma, don't know how to use excel. Only real job ever is at the movie theater 10 years ago.

I do love the pity that you guys have on live guys though.

Anyone with half a brain can make this money if they just buy solver put in 300 hours of deliberate practice.



Do you guys see how much of a d.ick it sound when I say poker is super easy and why bother with other job.
Thanks DonJuan!

Always love your graphs and success story

Really hope they legalize online poker again so major sites like Stars and Partypoker are available again
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11-23-2019 , 10:01 PM
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While I am at it. I find the quote "It makes me a bit sad, especially for the kids under 40 that could still take advantage of their gifts for analytics and math. I never say anything though, everybody has a story and it's really none of my business." Really you really feel sad for grown up dude that play poker for whatever reason. How do you feel about kids that don't have electricity in there home to do homework in third world country and all they want is some guys to ship them 40 buck an month. They have plenty of potential for analytics and math. I hope you didn't feel excruciating pain and find the quickest site to ship them money.

You know what I think when people like you or other that agree with you? I find that you guys full of s.hit and you feel a sense of being better than the person in front of you at the casino. I also think you guys are the type that after a long day outside to come home and first thing they do is take out their socks and smell it and loving the it.
Do you think you’re going to make 125k/year playing online poker 10 years from now? 5 years from now. What work can you get with 5 years or 10 years of professional poker on your resume? I’m seriously confused by professional poker players
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11-23-2019 , 10:33 PM
I am super confuse too. Do you go to every job that going to be take over by automation or AI in ten years and “go wtf are you guys doing”. I will be fine I think since I been investing in stock index just gonna let the power of compound work it magic. Also since I have all that extra free time from not driving anywhere I get to spend those time studying and compounding even more knowledge either w poker or something financial. And the rest of my time I make sure I troll on 2+2z
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11-23-2019 , 10:53 PM
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I am super confuse too. Do you go to every job that going to be take over by automation or AI in ten years and “go wtf are you guys doing”. I will be fine I think since I been investing in stock index just gonna let the power of compound work it magic. Also since I have all that extra free time from not driving anywhere I get to spend those time studying and compounding even more knowledge either w poker or something financial. And the rest of my time I make sure I troll on 2+2z
So you agree that you won’t make 100k+ playing online poker 5-10 years from now? If you’re close to retirement then go for it who gaf. If you need to work 10+ years then ya I’m super confused why people invest more time in a dying/ obsolete industry for a living. What job options do you or the average pro have outside poker? How doesn’t that scare the living **** out of you
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11-23-2019 , 11:34 PM
No idea what you are talking about. There at least two guys that say people that can 20/40 and 40/80 can easily make a lot more doing something more secure. So I think I people can learn something else easily. There also another guy that think 120k is chump change and he rather not have to pay self employer tax then make that amount. There also another guy that blow his mind that in 10 year poker is going to die and he really worry for poker player but it doesn’t blow his mind that ton of other jobs won’t be taken over by robot/AI. Maybe you should write a book about how scare you are for poker player and while you at it tackle climate change cause there no way the level of Co2 is sustainable for this planet

Poker is almost like a side job for me since I play less then 60 hour +30 hour of studying a month. My main job is calling out people bullshit when I see it

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11-25-2019 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
You know what I think when people like you or other that agree with you? I find that you guys full of s.hit and you feel a sense of being better than the person in front of you at the casino. I also think you guys are the type that after a long day outside to come home and first thing they do is take out their socks and smell it and loving the it.
This and other recent posts make you sound incredibly insecure. It can both be true that playing poker for a living is a bad idea for most people and that it is right for you. You do not need to feel personally attacked; this thread is not about you, nor did anyone call you out.

It sounds like you are planning for your future, great! In my experience, many young, professional poker players are not doing the same. They do not have health insurance, or a 401k, or some other investment vehicle to make sure that they still have a source of income when they cannot make money from poker anymore (either because of something endemic to the game or something totally unrelated, like personal health).

Of course, having health insurance and a retirement vehicle is not something that is within the reach of many many many people, including people who do things other than play poker for a living. But the hypothesis here is that those things are within reach of many people who are choosing to play poker, when more stable and lucrative opportunities are available. The fact that it would be a financially better decision for those people to focus their efforts elsewhere is not a personal attack on your life choices, nor does it say anything about how easy or hard it might be to become a winning poker player.
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11-25-2019 , 10:27 PM
If you quote what you just said but reverse to the people that giving advice to poker player it would fit perfectly too. Of course I am insecure but that doesn’t make me a huge *******. What are you guys doing at a gambling forum giving advice to guys that want to play poker for a living. Do you go to strip club and feel sad for the stripper and try to tell them how sad you are but that there life choice and it none of your business. Then there this guy that goes in and sit by himself and order water bottle. He trying to get the girl attention but doesn’t know why. Then he goes on here and preach about how worry he is worry about poker future.


Btw I think poker player and stripper has a lot in common. Both hate there competition. Both think that 90% of there customer base are loser, 10% they feel bad but never say it in there face. Put up a friendly face but are sick to there stomach about the environment. Why don’t you guys go to strip forum and explain your well intention and that they should do something else? Guess what you be laugh your ass off. And no much of an ******* would you do it. So why hell do you guys go to a poker forum and tell grown up man what they should do with there life? Don’t tell me you feel sorry for them. There a lot of people in the world that I would rank as worry 1.my family 2.Kids w no food 1000.Stripper 100000000.Poker poker

Last edited by DonJuan; 11-25-2019 at 10:36 PM.
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11-25-2019 , 10:58 PM
Also I have a lot of emotion toward regs. Hate is probably top one. But I never feel sorry or sad. You guys have some sort of attach emotions to regs that priority is to make money from Recreation player that lose 300 an hour. Or you mean they are your friends and you just want to give honest advice. If they are why don’t you tell it to there face that they shouldn’t play poker as a living and there are better choice. Sound like Michael Jordan that give interview on why your best friend Tiger woods will never win/or be best again in an interview.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gol...eat-again/amp/

“The thing is, I love him so much that I can’t tell him ‘You’re not gonna be great again, ” Jordan said.

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11-25-2019 , 11:52 PM
What makes you think that by saying “you can make XX more since you good at poker” over and over and over and over again is more effective than their parent first reaction when they first hear their kids gonna quit job/school for poker. I am sure they going to listen to some dude name Donjuan or hardinpaint OmG my idol jeez what am I doing with my life. They are so right fml I am such a loser wasting my time playing live.


But pls keep those advices coming. I don’t want to ruin this thread. Don’t make this about me. I don’t want to rip some bottom of the heart man to man advice.

Last edited by DonJuan; 11-25-2019 at 11:58 PM.
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11-26-2019 , 03:08 PM
Once you make 3 consecutive posts with no replies in between, you are just talking to yourself. Lol, so i thought i'd break the chain.....
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11-30-2019 , 11:13 AM
If you can't make a living playing 20/40 you are either not good enough or the games suck where you play.
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12-01-2019 , 01:23 PM
Or you have extravagant notions of what constitutes a "living," or the game only goes one night per week, or . . .
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