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100/200 flop and turn decisions 100/200 flop and turn decisions

07-31-2021 , 02:20 PM
Villain is Mark Newhouse, FWIW. We’ve never played before, and he’s new to the table, though he seems familiar with basically everyone.

Pre:

Fishy reg limps MP. I raise As8s in CO. Villain 3! on button. Tilted fish coldcalls BB. MP and I call.

Flop:
Ks6d4c

All check to villain, who bets. BB and MP fold. Getting 13.5:1 with an over and some back doors and closing the action against what should be a fairly loose PF range, I call. I think this is standard, but maybe some of you disagree.

Turn: Ad

I check, he bets. Are we raising here or just calling down? It’s really hard for me to have bluffs here, so raising against a strong opponent might just create a situation of getting called by better and folding out worse… I’ve been playing a lot of NL recently, so maybe my logic here is off…
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07-31-2021 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AtticusFish
Villain is Mark Newhouse, FWIW. We’ve never played before, and he’s new to the table, though he seems familiar with basically everyone.

Pre:

Fishy reg limps MP. I raise As8s in CO. Villain 3! on button. Tilted fish coldcalls BB. MP and I call.

Flop:
Ks6d4c

All check to villain, who bets. BB and MP fold. Getting 13.5:1 with an over and some back doors and closing the action against what should be a fairly loose PF range, I call. I think this is standard, but maybe some of you disagree.

Turn: Ad

I check, he bets......
Anything that doesn't involve folding is probably fine given your lack of history.
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07-31-2021 , 05:08 PM
Flop is fine. Bet the turn. Leading gets value and prevents villain from checking back his Kx and pocket pairs. Villain also still has all the better aces in this spot so expect to get raised sometimes. Your hand isn't really strong enough to put in 3 bets on turn/river.
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07-31-2021 , 06:44 PM
Way ahead / way behind spot .
C/c both street is fine
Let him bluff his draws
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08-04-2021 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dadjoey
Flop is fine. Bet the turn. Leading gets value and prevents villain from checking back his Kx and pocket pairs. Villain also still has all the better aces in this spot so expect to get raised sometimes. Your hand isn't really strong enough to put in 3 bets on turn/river.
Flop is mandatory. Ughhh...leading turn. What does your c/c flop, lead turn range look like besides Ax? I'd c/c turn b/c I can't really be balanced doing anything else. If he checks behind turn, I'd mix up bet river and c/r river.
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08-05-2021 , 10:43 AM
Raising the turn is a spewy overplay. Donking the turn isn't terrible since high stakes players tend to err on the side of being a showdown monkey vs. unknowns. But it's not like our hand is especially hungry for 2 more streets of value, and we really hate getting raised. Donking would make more sense with AJ since he probably has ATo and every small suited ace in his range. I just c/c c/c.
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08-05-2021 , 02:49 PM
c/c c/c
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08-07-2021 , 01:12 PM
Glad the consensus seems to align with what I did. I c/c turn and c/c 2h river. He showed QJss. His river bet seems bad to me. What worse hands fold?
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08-08-2021 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AtticusFish
Glad the consensus seems to align with what I did. I c/c turn and c/c 2h river. He showed QJss. His river bet seems bad to me. What worse hands fold?
Shrug he has to bluff something! And you are supposed to fold something too (though not Ax obviously)
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08-08-2021 , 09:14 PM
I think it's well played till the river. My sense is Marky Mark should check this one back as his hand has some showdown value and blocks the key missed draws which Hero would have. It might be better to bluff a hand like JTs or T9s and check back the QJs here. It's also possible he thinks you're part of The Funky Bunch who fold some pairs here (you shouldn't in this muhnstah pot) which would make the bluff good.
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08-09-2021 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JLot
I think it's well played till the river. My sense is Marky Mark should check this one back as his hand has some showdown value and blocks the key missed draws which Hero would have. It might be better to bluff a hand like JTs or T9s and check back the QJs here. It's also possible he thinks you're part of The Funky Bunch who fold some pairs here (you shouldn't in this muhnstah pot) which would make the bluff good.
I decided to dive into this one and you are basically 100% right. Guessing QJ blocking the missed gutshots is just bad, but the dream machine wants to always bluff J9s, JTs, T9s. Oh I learned we should have capped pre (makes sense I think)
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08-09-2021 , 01:58 PM
Can I put your dream machine in the game DD?
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08-09-2021 , 02:35 PM
interesting re: the cap. I'm assuming the dream machine is barreling all un-paired hands worse than QJs on both turn and river?

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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
I decided to dive into this one and you are basically 100% right. Guessing QJ blocking the missed gutshots is just bad, but the dream machine wants to always bluff J9s, JTs, T9s. Oh I learned we should have capped pre (makes sense I think)
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08-10-2021 , 05:08 PM
I didn't save it but yeah I think so - villain just has so much value in his range he gets to bluff with all those random "bad" hands (assuming his preflop range isn't too wild)
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08-11-2021 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AtticusFish
Glad the consensus seems to align with what I did. I c/c turn and c/c 2h river. He showed QJss. His river bet seems bad to me. What worse hands fold?
Do not allow the poor LHE play of "known" pros come as a surprise to you.
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08-12-2021 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
Shrug he has to bluff something! And you are supposed to fold something too (though not Ax obviously)
I'm still new to this but solver is folding 77s-99s on the turn in this spot. Calling with TTs. Assumption I made is you have a back-capping range so you're capped in this spot.
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08-13-2021 , 01:25 PM
That’s very surprising to me. 77-TT are very close to same hand on this board against a turn bet, and TT blocks a lot of his potential bluffs. Out of curiosity, what solvers do you guys use?
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