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07-29-2016 , 01:38 AM
Well the boss didn't reply to my email. But my lead reached out to me with a couple new ideas for stuff for me to work on. That is the boss's MO. I'm 95% sure he talked to the lead.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease I guess. I'm already tired of being lazy and having my whole day free. The problem is I get to where I don't want to do anything. I've seen it happen with coworkers and bosses. If I'm busy I want to just keep working. But once I get out of the loop for a while and do **** all, then I have a hard time getting motivated to do anything.
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07-29-2016 , 01:39 AM
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Why don't you start playing with docker?
I have. I installed the docker beta, and got a container running with node and our app. But I am having a hard time motivating myself to make up a bunch of other **** to do. Yeah that is on me. I'm not the best self-starter. I do so much better when I have an actual problem to solve that I don't have to invent, and someone who is counting on me to solve it.
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07-29-2016 , 01:52 AM
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My biggest problem with contracting is that I think rates are too low tbh for the most part. But like I stated, I have been extremely fortunate with client companies in how I have been treated. I am getting completely inundated with about contracting opportunities and some direct opportunities.
I think there are other more inherent problems with contracting. The pay may or may not be up to snuff, but I don't like the idea that the company isn't taking a real risk on you. I also don't like having a bunch of company code on my personal computer, and I don't like pitching all of my work over a wall and not getting feedback for two weeks.

I think the pitching over a wall part lowers my productivity and makes it easy for the company to justify the thought that they are over-paying.

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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Well the new side job seems to have some political ramifications and aspect of me having to wrestle things to do out of existing employees - just like my day job! Apparently there's already some guy who has a whole node framework designed.

The way the job was pitched to me was they wanted me to come in and create a scalable node framework for them. I suspect they have doubts about what he's doing, but don't want to come out and tell him. The email that went out to the dev team is more like "hey let's show suzzer what you're doing and see how we can work together". Mean time the existing guy is playing very hard to contact. Awesome! I guess I need to take a 3rd job so I can have something to freaking do.

The little 3-day project I did for maxtower involved 10x more coding and other tech tasks than the last 6 months at both of my jobs.
Ugh, silo workers are very difficult to manage and very difficult to work with. The psychology isn't so much that they are "weird," but they don't think their standing in the company is very well. In essence, they are afraid they will lose value and eventually get fired.

This thought is contradicted by the very project they are defending: clearly, the company valued their initial work enough that they were allowed to go out and create their own beast without supervision.

Getting rid of them is very easy though. Once you force them to work with other people, they immediately start looking for a new job. Give it 3 months max before they move along.
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07-29-2016 , 02:03 AM
I have heard through sources from the sub-company, that people at the parent company are very guarded about the stuff they own. It's pretty endemic I think.
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07-29-2016 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
No office politics and welcomed product design inputs! Who wouldn't want to work for me?
Based on the Android programming I've done at work this week I'm going to ****ing puke if I ever look at a build.gradle file again
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07-29-2016 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I have. I installed the docker beta, and got a container running with node and our app. But I am having a hard time motivating myself to make up a bunch of other **** to do. Yeah that is on me. I'm not the best self-starter. I do so much better when I have an actual problem to solve that I don't have to invent, and someone who is counting on me to solve it.
Yeah, I'm the same way. I have to have a finish line or I'm not doing ****. I'd try to figure out something cool that your company may need one day, i.e. load balanced node running on docker that auto scales with new instances and do that.
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07-29-2016 , 05:11 PM
Tell me you expect a demo and a full writeup itt in 2 weeks. I need deadlines.
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07-29-2016 , 05:27 PM
I expect a demo and half hearted write up in a 1 1/2 weeks.
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07-29-2016 , 07:15 PM
I expect a full demo in two weeks, along with a plan for implementing company wide along with full documentation including installation guide, troubleshooting guide, faq and first time user walkthrough.
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07-29-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Well the new side job seems to have some political ramifications and aspect of me having to wrestle things to do out of existing employees - just like my day job! Apparently there's already some guy who has a whole node framework designed.

The way the job was pitched to me was they wanted me to come in and create a scalable node framework for them. I suspect they have doubts about what he's doing, but don't want to come out and tell him. The email that went out to the dev team is more like "hey let's show suzzer what you're doing and see how we can work together". Mean time the existing guy is playing very hard to contact. Awesome! I guess I need to take a 3rd job so I can have something to freaking do.

The little 3-day project I did for maxtower involved 10x more coding and other tech tasks than the last 6 months at both of my jobs.
You are big head of 2p2. Must be nice to fall into money and have to do nothing ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **
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07-30-2016 , 02:09 AM
suzzer (and everyone else, of course), this was on HN this morning. Not sure if you missed it:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/the-inner-json-effect

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12185727

and "We use BobX" was linked from the comments:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/We-Use-BobX

I hope you aren't dealing with stuff like this.
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07-30-2016 , 02:53 AM
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You are big head of 2p2. Must be nice to fall into money and have to do nothing ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **
Yeah it's awesome to hang out on the roof all day.
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07-30-2016 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
suzzer (and everyone else, of course), this was on HN this morning. Not sure if you missed it:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/the-inner-json-effect

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12185727

and "We use BobX" was linked from the comments:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/We-Use-BobX

I hope you aren't dealing with stuff like this.
I feel like these are parables whose point I don't understand whatsoever, maybe I just haven't witnessed enough dumpster fires in my career to get it
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07-30-2016 , 03:17 AM
Oh Jesus. The Inner JSON Effect one I had to read a few sentences twice along the way, but eventually it dawned on me how the thing works. Now I'm scared.

This is a contender for "most frightening thing on dailywtf" for sure, but I think that title still belongs to The Hotel (reservation system) From Hell, which I think I've shared here before. Part 1, Part 2. God, just opening the articles is giving me weird flasbacks.

We should have a best-of dailywtf thread maybe, like the Wikipedia Articles thread in OOT. One of my all time faves is The Erlking.
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07-30-2016 , 03:17 AM
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I feel like these are parables whose point I don't understand whatsoever, maybe I just haven't witnessed enough dumpster fires in my career to get it
??

They're real systems, sent in by readers and anonymized.
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07-30-2016 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
This is a contender for "most frightening thing on dailywtf" for sure, but I think that title still belongs to The Hotel (reservation system) From Hell, which I think I've shared here before. Part 1, Part 2. God, just opening the articles is giving me weird flasbacks.
This actually isn't all too uncommon with Excel. At a prior job, we had an Excel guru who would write equations that would make your eyes bleed. One went sort of like this, to the best of my recollection:

page one:
long ass equation on c, references b.

page 2:
long ass equation on e, references b, references the result of b on page one, if it has a result, else reference b on page one, handle error, do some other auto-fill instead.

page 3:

well, you get the point, these would often go on for five pages.

Did I mention that he never once saved the results, despite each page 1 being entirely different and critical to the job?

I eventually pulled him aside and had a long talk about using VBA because using equations with 15 nested if's and errors, spanning 400 characters on each page was getting a bit out of hand.

He did some pretty interesting things with VBA after considerable practice. The bummer of using Excel was that our computers weren't strong enough to really do much outside of vanilla stuff. A saved macro-enabled book was bound to be corrupted in a few months.
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07-30-2016 , 04:54 AM
Haven't posted in a while. I plan on launching a small site that could grow to maybe a couple of thousand users/day max (by design they'll probably all show up as a daily peek and not be spread evenly over the day though). Are IaaS providers like Digital Ocean the way to go? I'm still a bit scared of AWS since the language alone can be confusing. Don't think I need a more hands off PaaS like Heroku.
How hard is it to migrate between providers? This type of question has probably been asked a billion times, also by me but I remember the last time I wanted to start a project I spend a week procrastinating over cloud choices...I want to start pushing code from day of my vacation this time around

Setting up some super simple stuff is pretty easy on most cloud platforms. Tech will be a pretty basic stack of postgresql, node, react for the frontend. I might migrate the backend to Phoenix eventually if I decide I want to play with that.
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07-30-2016 , 10:00 AM
You can point and click your way through launching a server on AWS pretty easily. They just make you add an SSH key, because they disable password based auth, and set up a security group to close/open public ports. Otherwise, it's pretty easy.

The nice thing about AWS is the API and all of their other services (RDS, SQS, etc., etc.). They make it a little easier to run and secure more complex infrastructure.

The hard part of migrating is going through all of the setup again. Install node, install postgres, import or rebuild the db, install and configure nginx, SSH keys, IP tables, etc.

Personally, I have a hard time not starting with Heroku because it's free and you're pushing code pretty quickly. I've never run a production site there though.

You're probably better off starting at DO.
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07-30-2016 , 11:16 AM
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??

They're real systems, sent in by readers and anonymized.
Those are real? Get the **** out. I thought BobX was trying to take a dump on Angular or something and the subversion revision thing definitely failed Real Or Onion.
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07-30-2016 , 03:51 PM
I did that stuff on DO pretty easy and I don't know **** all about linux really, just followed guides and saved an image when it was done that I'd assume would be easy to migrate.
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07-30-2016 , 06:36 PM
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Based on the Android programming I've done at work this week I'm going to ****ing puke if I ever look at a build.gradle file again
Worth noting that a coworker recommended looking into Buck, a build system made by Facebook, and it appears to not suck terribly, which is a massive improvement over gradle.
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07-30-2016 , 07:57 PM
+1 to DO

cheap and easy.
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07-30-2016 , 09:36 PM
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Those are real? Get the **** out. I thought BobX was trying to take a dump on Angular or something and the subversion revision thing definitely failed Real Or Onion.
The comments on the article suggest BobX looks suspiciously like Cold Fusion, so maybe there is some allegory there.

Cycorp built their own in house database, database query system, and in house language, which was some Lisp. All of this information is found online. To be fair, this was all created 30 years ago, well before big data and the internet was a thing.
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08-01-2016 , 12:49 AM
You could fall on a million dollars, party in a sorority as a solo gueat, and have a personal feast prepped by Wolfgang Puck, yet getting an article submitted on Reddit will ruin your day.

I learned that I have no clue about any topic I've ever written about. Oh, wait, actually I do, but the commenter must go out of his way to look at a totally irrelevant idea and extrapolate my ignorance to some other topic, failing to be right on that, repeat. Ugh... Not worth reading, and not worth answering.
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08-01-2016 , 01:54 AM
I loved your Daily WTF links Dave. More like that anytime please.
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