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07-05-2016 , 12:33 PM
Sounds like we all have jobs still after our project was cancelled. Just moving to the company we acquired's very similar project.

The module that I implemented on our project says 0% completed under their status, so sounds like good news for me!
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07-05-2016 , 01:12 PM
Any tips on getting proficient at C for someone who has written most of their code in OO languages like Java and C++?
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07-05-2016 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Any pointers on getting proficient at C for someone who has written most of their code in OO languages like Java and C++?
ftfy
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07-05-2016 , 02:46 PM
think this is the usual recommendation

https://www.amazon.com/Programming-L.../dp/0131103628
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07-05-2016 , 04:34 PM


Interesting.

Also interesting: https://medium.com/@ottovw/rest-api-...eb8#.5xynnfgu4
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07-05-2016 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grue
ftfy
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Any tips on getting proficient at C for someone who has written most of their code in OO languages like Java and C++?
For a full dive K and R C programming language is still recommended. I've also heard that the C tutorial prefacing James Aspne's programming and data structures course at Yale is good. It can be found online in PDF.

From my limited studies C is a fairly simple language so not sure what proficient means to you.

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07-05-2016 , 10:32 PM
soo....say you have 2 engineering co-workers whom you're on good terms with and they get into a fight, what do you do when one of them comes to you?
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07-05-2016 , 10:38 PM
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soo....say you have 2 engineering co-workers whom you're on good terms with and they get into a fight, what do you do when one of them comes to you?
Pit them against each other!

Or maybe ask them whether they're ****ing adults or not?
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07-05-2016 , 10:48 PM
Did that coworker come at you during the fight or you mean he dropped into your office after the fight?

This would happen quite often at one of my prior jobs. The way we dealt with it is the higher up would tell both of them to squash that ****, if they were lucky. Certain mangers would just fire them on the spot no follow-up questions asked.

This isn't your battle. Tell him politely that you aren't going to get involved.
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07-05-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Any tips on getting proficient at C for someone who has written most of their code in OO languages like Java and C++?
Well knowing those languages means one already knows a lot about C. I suspect you are concerned about organizing code, building libraries stuff like that. My answer is that it isn't that much different than doing those things in C++. I would recommend learn the scope rules for C, spend some time learning a little bit about how the linker works in building executables specifically paying attention to programming sections, learn all you can about pointers ( linked lists, b trees for example), pointers to functions, understand the C runtime environment, and of course study all the C source code you can get your hands on as there is an infinite amount basically in the public domain. There are some decent books on creating embedded systems in C which might be worthwhile.
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07-06-2016 , 12:26 AM
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soo....say you have 2 engineering co-workers whom you're on good terms with and they get into a fight, what do you do when one of them comes to you?
Like, an angry spat over IM? Or a fist fight in the parking lot?
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07-06-2016 , 01:25 AM
erg my bad not being clear, they're verbally talking to each other in not-so-friendly terms.

first time encountering something like this, especially since i go out of my way to keep my distance w/ co-workers. but this time one of them considers me a friend and we've hung out
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07-06-2016 , 01:38 AM
Is this a one-off thing or an ongoing thing between them? Is your work normally okay or is it constantly toxic?

It sort of depends on your work culture, but no matter what the culture, the best way to play politics is not play at all and let your work speak for itself. Whatever he's dealing with is his problem and not yours. Just don't get involved.
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07-06-2016 , 06:31 AM
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erg my bad not being clear, they're verbally talking to each other in not-so-friendly terms.

first time encountering something like this, especially since i go out of my way to keep my distance w/ co-workers. but this time one of them considers me a friend and we've hung out
Can you help your friend reach a peaceful resolution? What were they arguing about? I assume it is about issues with the code.
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07-06-2016 , 12:57 PM


This cracked me up for some reason. I can just hear the recruiter: "Do you got Logic? Yes? Good, we'll check that box." Lol at Scrum being a requirement as well. And wtf kind of Big Data engineer works with CSS?
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07-06-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well knowing those languages means one already knows a lot about C. I suspect you are concerned about organizing code, building libraries stuff like that. My answer is that it isn't that much different than doing those things in C++. I would recommend learn the scope rules for C, spend some time learning a little bit about how the linker works in building executables specifically paying attention to programming sections, learn all you can about pointers ( linked lists, b trees for example), pointers to functions, understand the C runtime environment, and of course study all the C source code you can get your hands on as there is an infinite amount basically in the public domain. There are some decent books on creating embedded systems in C which might be worthwhile.
Yes, I was mostly just worried about figuring out the difference in how code is structured, scoped, etc quickly and being able to jump in and read/understand others code as well as write my own code as their is still a massive amount of code to be written.

Already done extensive work with pointers, function pointers, callbacks, etc. in C++ code, so hopefully that won't be too much different.
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07-06-2016 , 01:46 PM
I'm talking to a startup that needs a node guy. I told them I could give them 10-20 hours/week and they're cool with that. Sounds like they have a front-end guy who's playing back end dev and needs some help. The devs are scattered all over the globe and supposedly the startup is well-funded for 18 months.

I'm trying to decide how much I should charge per hour. If it was pure node I consider myself enough of an expert to ask for $125-$150/hr. But since I'd be working with docker, React/Bootstrap (assuming some FE) and some DB I've never heard of (RethinkDB) I am willing to go lower since I'm not an SME in any of those. I really want to learn docker.

Is $100/hr too low? Should I am higher if I'll settle for $100? I suck at this part of things so bad.
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07-06-2016 , 01:55 PM
Doubt you'll get that much from a startup in my experience.
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07-06-2016 , 01:57 PM
So maybe ask for $110 and see where it goes from there?
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07-06-2016 , 03:35 PM
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Yes, I was mostly just worried about figuring out the difference in how code is structured, scoped, etc quickly and being able to jump in and read/understand others code as well as write my own code as their is still a massive amount of code to be written.

Already done extensive work with pointers, function pointers, callbacks, etc. in C++ code, so hopefully that won't be too much different.
You will be fine.
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07-06-2016 , 04:01 PM
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This cracked me up for some reason. I can just hear the recruiter: "Do you got Logic? Yes? Good, we'll check that box." Lol at Scrum being a requirement as well. And wtf kind of Big Data engineer works with CSS?
I like the jobs that require stuff like 5+ years of experience with Java 8. Ya, might be waiting awhile to fill that job.
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07-06-2016 , 07:08 PM
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I don't think I've seen it, but I could be wrong.

But yeah, something like this is what I'm thinking of, only with resources for moving from one level to the next.

Incidentally, if you've read thru that example, I'm curious what you or others would consider a good time for someone to be attempting to enter the work force as a programmer, generally speaking. Should one wait until they're almost solidly level 2? A good mix of 2 and 1? 60% 2, 35% 1, 5% n/a or 0?
I just read that matrix and I think I'm level 0 in a lot of those categories even though I've been a programmer for 15 years.
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07-06-2016 , 07:56 PM
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I just read that matrix and I think I'm level 0 in a lot of those categories even though I've been a programmer for 15 years.
Really? Which ones? I think I have a few. There are a few python library things I look up all the ****ing time because I can't remember some detail of them. The datetime library comes to mind. Until my last job I did not use "frameworks" because
a) they were not really a feature of the languages I was using and work I was doing
b) I'm not really a fan. Having used several frameworks, I will probably avoid them in many cases where possible.
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07-06-2016 , 09:17 PM
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This cracked me up for some reason. I can just hear the recruiter: "Do you got Logic? Yes? Good, we'll check that box." Lol at Scrum being a requirement as well. And wtf kind of Big Data engineer works with CSS?
fixed your embedded tweet
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