As usual candy bar is right imo. There's certainly some gray area here but compensation above all else misses the forest for the trees. Play their game if you're interested, make people like you. Digging in about not sharing salary history because you might lose some tiny ev isn't going to win anyone over. There's a way of playing along, being likable, and still getting what you want if you're talented, likable, and clear about what you're looking for and why.

People who are not properly trained should definitely steer clear of these topics.

Noodle, you just need to knock off this analysis paralysis.

Those a/A rules are just in place so they have recourse against bad actors. They're very flexible and often don't enforce things otherwise.

With a/A sharpening your skills and having a 2 year CS degree you're not going to have much trouble finding a job. If you are a little flexible on salary you'll easily land somewhere with lots of opportunity to work on mobile and maybe even embedded software in addition to web dev. Finding somewhere with that kind of flexibility for you might require taking something that pays maybe 80-90% off what you could make at a slightly larger company.

That first experience is invaluable and continuing to put it off will only delay your career.

At least in the bay those BS in CS requirements are mostly bogus. Same with the "minimum x years experience" stuff.

And no a/A won't teach you algorithms and data structures at the same depth as a CS curriculum. For most jobs out there, it doesn't really matter. The deepest you'll ever need to go will probably be in a white board interview.

Sigh, I never claimed I was properly trained, nor am I claiming that the interviewers I've spoken with are all properly trained. I'm pointing out that it isn't a good question to ask if you don't follow up with why, and it is worse if you do follow up with why.

You can get paid double to do nearly the same work at Facebook as you can at a local web dev shop. The pay difference has little to nothing to do with the quality of the work at hand. There are many other metrics you can use to judge a person's ability that is far more valuable than pay history, and I think pay history is such a murky territory that it should be dismissed out of hand.

That sounds terrible. Do you recall which company? Asking for a friend.

Based on those responses Dave I'm even more inclined to ask questions like that. The folks badmouthing previous employers and co-workers in that context are not the sort of folks I'd want to be hiring.

I didn't since I couldn't care less.

We had two people interviewing. One of them was more into HR style questions and I've heard nearly everything. I'd rather stay away from any question that can open up personal topics. I have plenty of questions and tests that shows their ability.

Don't recall.

To touch on this again, It's not like a university of Phoenix place. It's a regionally accredited state university with an accelerated online post bacc. I likely have the max 12 hours that can transfer, meaning I'd do 48 credit hours in a year's time.

In the end you get the same degree as the people who attend the brick and mortar uni and there's no way someone would know you did it online.

If you google "oregon state cs post bacc" - you quickly find out that it's an online program. People generally don't consider post-bacc degrees to be equivalent to full bachelor's either. I guess another way to think about this is that if you're already on a non-traditional path (you're older, have a BA, probably worked in another field, etc) - it may make a lot of sense to do the kinds of things that other people on a non-traditional path are doing.

You don't fit into that cookie-cutter, 22-year old coming out a CS program mold anyway so why try to impress people who are looking for that? Employers who want those types of credentials tend to be biased towards people on standard path, not those who happen to have CS degrees but got there in a roundabout way. And there are a lot of people who genuinely prefer bootcamp types to CS grad types because doing the former takes more of an initiative. You already have a 2-year degree, it seems like you've been learning stuff online for some time now - at some point you do have to work more directly towards getting a job.

Also do you have to go to AA in SF? Or can you come to AA in NYC? The tech job market here is going to be probably more resilient during a downturn and less dependent on VC funding.

you have to go to the one you applied to, i think, and i only applied to SF. Most of the grads I hear from nyc are basically incapable of getting jobs because ruby isn't so hot out there

also, i really appreciate the feedback and ideas. it probably shouldn't be as stressful a decision as i'm making it out to be, but i am indeed a nontraditional type and i'm super worried about making the right step at this point in my life

I wouldn't do the oregon post bac thing. I seen enough of those "I can't get a job" posts in reddit cscareerquestions, where the OP was someone from that program.

Sure, they won't know you took it online, but they will question it when you are applying from some place not called "Oregon".

Anyone know what the legal implications are for a site like this:

http://www.useronboard.com/

It's basially reviewing a bunch of other websites/apps, but in doing so has a bunch of images of the websites/apps it's reviewing. Could these companies legally ask to be taken down on the grounds that the images are infringing their copyright, or does the law protect this because it's clearly a "review" of those sites rather than a competitor or copy?

The reviewed site can certainly make a DMCA request to take down the content that is protected under copyright. There would be no legal action taken unless the DMCA request was ignored.

Sensationalism or truth? Seems pretty interesting to me.

http://m.slashdot.org/story/311395

Open source project site:

https://www.tensorflow.org/

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Tensors is where I got completely lost in Math Physics on the way to getting my physics degree. I wonder if this actually uses tensors or it's just a cool name.

From what little I know of tensors I think it's the same basic idea expressed in code.

I was curious if their claims about out pacing Moores law on their TPUS is testable/verifiable.

I think it's reasonable. If you can make some kind of processor that is tailor made to your problem (instead of being more general purpose), you can usually get enormous speedups in efficiency. Compare how good your CPU is as 3d rendering vs a dedicated GPU (a few orders of magnitude typically).

So it's not like the law is "broken", those TPUs aren't good for much else than what they're being used for. My senior project as an EE (lol almost 20 years ago) was to design a dedicated chip for neural network learning. It was a ****load faster than simulation on a general purpose CPU.

You can either specialize and kickass @ that one thing (and suck at everything else) or generalize and be reasonably good at everything. Basically, Mac vs Windows.

I don't get the analogy. I assume Mac is the specialized? Doesn't even make sense.

I guess macs kind of used to specialize at graphic designy type stuff. They suck as much as everything else now though.

I'm in a buying a new laptop mode (mostly for programming) and getting the new MBP in June is on the top of my list. From my reading, it seems like they can pretty much do everything just as well as PCs these days, if not better, and run smoother and more consistently.

Maybe you could make a case of Windows being better for Office stuff, but I think that's just as specialized as graphic design...

Hp put out a serious chrome book contender against mb air for like half the price or less. Throw Linux on there and you're gtg. Plus aren't all android apps coming to chrome book?

I like my MBP just fine but no way would I pay for one. There are lots of laptops at half the price or less that are easily comparable.

If you're a unix person macs are just garbage. They are half-unixy at best, they have amateur package management (which is to say, 3rd party), getting anything that works fine on linux to work on OSX is a giant **** show. The compilers are usually 2 generations out of date and updating them is a pain in the ass. I am fighting the unix part of macs on a daily basis. I think they're terrible dev machines.