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03-07-2016 , 02:08 AM
To be fair, I'm not aware of any open source license that says "you can not use this for commercial purposes." Quite contrary, it seemed the commercial software has these clauses, thus you can have dual-licensed software.

Interesting read here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...e-exactly-mean

Of particular interest is the reference to Clause 6:

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

Rationale: The major intention of this clause is to prohibit license traps that prevent open source from being used commercially. We want commercial users to join our community, not feel excluded from it.


By breaking Clause 6, you may as well not open source your code at all.
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03-08-2016 , 10:26 AM
Book (or other) recommendations for learning linux/posix/server deployment stuff? mostly interested in cli.
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03-08-2016 , 04:38 PM
Anyone know if you can have two SPs share the same SSO credentials so either one could use the same auth token? We have a customer that will provide a SAML 2.0 compliant auth token but will not do any other functions of an IDP and essentially wants their users to be able to go from our site to a partners site without having to go through their login process more than once.
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03-08-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Anyone know if you can have two SPs share the same SSO credentials so either one could use the same auth token? We have a customer that will provide a SAML 2.0 compliant auth token but will not do any other functions of an IDP and essentially wants their users to be able to go from our site to a partners site without having to go through their login process more than once.
Not clear on what the flow is supposed to be here. Who/what are they going to provide the auth token to?
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03-08-2016 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Not clear on what the flow is supposed to be here. Who/what are they going to provide the auth token to?
User is logged into notIDP's web site and wants to navigate to our partners website.
notIDP's website is going to provide the SAML assertion for the user when they redirect them to our partner's site.
User is on partner's site and wants to go to our site

At this point we would ask notIDP to authenticate the customer but notIDP isn't providing that function and essentially wants us to re-use the assertion they sent to our partner. I don't know enough about SSO to even start Googling for this.
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03-08-2016 , 05:54 PM
Signed SAML assertions can be verified by third parties. You'd need control over the bit in the partner's site that transfers the user to you.

The way I would do it, not sure if there's a simpler way:

- When the user asks to go to your site, the back end of the partner site contacts an API on your site and provides the SAML assertion.
- Your site verifies the assertion and responds with a one-time URL containing a nonce.
- The partner site redirects the user to that URL
- Your site issues them credentials and redirects them to their desired destination.
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03-08-2016 , 06:12 PM
The way the notIdP wants to redirect someone from their site to our Partner's site is to essentially send the SAML assertion with them, so short circuit the ask response round trip. Is it feasible for the Partner's site to do the same thing? If the user clicks on a link to our site the Partner passes along the SAML assertion with the User. If that's possible I think it solves the worst use case.
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03-10-2016 , 02:36 PM
Score, going to a meetup netted me an azure account/coupon with a $150 credit every month for 3 years after talking to the MS guy there. Now to learn azure..
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03-11-2016 , 12:28 PM
Not to be a downer but they had those out like candy, mailing someone would have worked as well :P

From what I hear Azure is actually pretty good, especially Linux ldo
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03-11-2016 , 01:48 PM
haha yeah I figured that out but still pretty great value for anyone with an idea. Played around with it yesterday and its um ok. Nothing there that has any real use other than "here's your ubuntu box". I tried their auto provisioning and it blew up when I had a prompt during npm i so yeah thanks for the dual core 7gb machine for 3 years.
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03-11-2016 , 02:53 PM
I have the first technical screen in like a billion years and got this hackerrank codepair link for the interview (for later this afternoon) - any tips/pitfalls/suggestions/etc?
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03-11-2016 , 03:28 PM
Atlassin brags that 2% of their workers are in their 50s, which is apparently really good for a tech company. I'm going to be 50 in 2 years
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03-11-2016 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
I have the first technical screen in like a billion years and got this hackerrank codepair link for the interview (for later this afternoon) - any tips/pitfalls/suggestions/etc?
If JS is a big topic, bone up on class-based vs. prototypical inheritance.

Try to feel out your interviewer and don't come off that you have so much experience you should be his boss.

That's all I got. Good luck!
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03-11-2016 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
If JS is a big topic, bone up on class-based vs. prototypical inheritance.

Try to feel out your interviewer and don't come off that you have so much experience you should be his boss.

That's all I got. Good luck!
Thanks suzzer! Funny thing, speaking of not coming off like I should be the boss, I've been on a crash diet for exactly that reason - I look a lot older when I'm overweight.
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03-11-2016 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Atlassin brags that 2% of their workers are in their 50s, which is apparently really good for a tech company. I'm going to be 50 in 2 years
To be fair to Attlasian, they are in downtown Austin, which isn't exactly buzzing with older people, day or night.

Most of the older programmers are hard-core C and assembly guys who wouldn't be caught dead using C++, much less flavor-of-the-month JS frameworks. You have Big Blue and TI down here, which definitely affects the history here.

Also... how many people in their 50s are there that program in the first place? 20 years ago, computers were considered black magic.
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03-11-2016 , 04:24 PM
Right well my concern is what the hell do I do with myself when I'm 55 and still need to work? That's not going to be pretty. I'll have to hope to get hired on somewhere as the token old guy, then surprise to the upside.

I wish I had any kind of plausible idea - I'd just start my own business. Not sure what drumming up consulting work will be like.

I'm thinking long and hard about becoming a lifer where I'm at now. The pay is good and the work is easy. But that's still a depressing thought, and no guarantees they won't let me go in a few years anyway.
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03-11-2016 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
I have the first technical screen in like a billion years and got this hackerrank codepair link for the interview (for later this afternoon) - any tips/pitfalls/suggestions/etc?
Expect bugs, lots of bugs. Hopefully you won't rage-submit a non-functioning perfect piece of code.
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03-11-2016 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Right well my concern is what the hell do I do with myself when I'm 55 and still need to work? That's not going to be pretty. I'll have to hope to get hired on somewhere as the token old guy, then surprise to the upside.

I wish I had any kind of plausible idea - I'd just start my own business. Not sure what drumming up consulting work will be like.

I'm thinking long and hard about becoming a lifer where I'm at now. The pay is good and the work is easy. But that's still a depressing thought, and no guarantees they won't let me go in a few years anyway.
I'm too much of a silly and stupid optimist, but I suspect that as founders and employees get older, ageism won't be so much of an issue in the near future. Mind who's saying this, of course.
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03-11-2016 , 06:12 PM
Actually, now that I think of it, the meetups I've attended out here are definitely slanted to older people. Not saying they make me feel young, but I'm never the oldest around either. I'm not sure how much of that is sample size from the kinds I attend or if that is meaningful.
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03-11-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I wish I had any kind of plausible idea - I'd just start my own business. Not sure what drumming up consulting work will be like.
I have a semi-idea, not sure how plausible it is though. And something like it probably already exists.
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03-11-2016 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
Expect bugs, lots of bugs. Hopefully you won't rage-submit a non-functioning perfect piece of code.


The hackerrank codepair thing turned out to be just a way for the interviewer to see what I type and I wasn't expected to produce functioning code. I think I did okay, not nearly as well as I feel like I should be able to do, but would be surprised if I didn't at least move on to the next round.
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03-11-2016 , 07:24 PM
Gl. I'm on the hunt again too after an incredibly frustrating day where I realized nothing is ever going to change.
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03-11-2016 , 07:30 PM
Grue, if you're interested in Rails at all my company is hiring.
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03-11-2016 , 08:15 PM
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Gl. I'm on the hunt again too after an incredibly frustrating day where I realized nothing is ever going to change.
Good luck to you too! At the end of the day, you gotta do what makes you happy. I think I've been putting up with a little too much for a little too long.
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03-11-2016 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Right well my concern is what the hell do I do with myself when I'm 55 and still need to work? That's not going to be pretty. I'll have to hope to get hired on somewhere as the token old guy, then surprise to the upside.

I wish I had any kind of plausible idea - I'd just start my own business. Not sure what drumming up consulting work will be like.

I'm thinking long and hard about becoming a lifer where I'm at now. The pay is good and the work is easy. But that's still a depressing thought, and no guarantees they won't let me go in a few years anyway.
Is the difference between 48 and 55 really that big? If you're doing well now, you'll be ok in 7 years.
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