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04-04-2011
, 03:27 PM
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It looks like I'm going for a job interview on Wednesday (yay)
The job is in Rails, which I have zero experience in. I don't even think I've ever looked at a line of Ruby code. They tracked me down & invited me, so I know they know I have no experience, but I'd like to take some knowledge in to the interview.
What should I read in the next day and a half to at least give me a primer in Ruby & Rails? I'll probably only have about 2 hours to sit down and read before then, most of that on the actual train ride, so let's keep it short
The job is in Rails, which I have zero experience in. I don't even think I've ever looked at a line of Ruby code. They tracked me down & invited me, so I know they know I have no experience, but I'd like to take some knowledge in to the interview.
What should I read in the next day and a half to at least give me a primer in Ruby & Rails? I'll probably only have about 2 hours to sit down and read before then, most of that on the actual train ride, so let's keep it short
04-04-2011
, 08:47 PM
Zurvan:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/quickstart/
After that search for one of these "Rails in 5 minutes" videos on youtube. You'll get a pretty good understanding of how it works that way. Install Rails, repeat what they did in the video and look at the scaffolding code that's generated and play around with it a bit.
Browse the Ruby library a bit and you should be good to go. 1-2 days is plenty
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/quickstart/
After that search for one of these "Rails in 5 minutes" videos on youtube. You'll get a pretty good understanding of how it works that way. Install Rails, repeat what they did in the video and look at the scaffolding code that's generated and play around with it a bit.
Browse the Ruby library a bit and you should be good to go. 1-2 days is plenty
Last edited by clowntable; 04-04-2011 at 08:59 PM.
04-05-2011
, 05:50 PM
04-05-2011
, 07:40 PM
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Random question:
Does anyone entirely support themselves by trolling places like elance for jobs?
I thought about attempting it a couple of years ago (obv so I can work on the beach in Thailand
), but I don't know if I have the ability to compete with a billion Indian/Pakistani programmers... 
Also appeared that there was a fair few companies (for lack of better word) that were bidding on projects with the intention of further subcontracting them... Seemed pretty cut-throat. Maybe I'm just being precious.
fwiw, I'm 27, no family, no physical assets, no debts... Although I do have a very cushy, well paid job.
Does anyone entirely support themselves by trolling places like elance for jobs?
I thought about attempting it a couple of years ago (obv so I can work on the beach in Thailand
), but I don't know if I have the ability to compete with a billion Indian/Pakistani programmers... Also appeared that there was a fair few companies (for lack of better word) that were bidding on projects with the intention of further subcontracting them... Seemed pretty cut-throat. Maybe I'm just being precious. fwiw, I'm 27, no family, no physical assets, no debts... Although I do have a very cushy, well paid job.
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I've had some luck with Odesk, to make some extra money.
The trick is to find a small job, and do it cheap, so you get a rating and hours in the system. Then jack up your price to whatever level is acceptable to you, and apply for jobs at that price. Depending on your skill set, you can top out about $60/hr on ODesk. There's some skill involved in finding the people who are looking for quality, not just price.
The trick is to find a small job, and do it cheap, so you get a rating and hours in the system. Then jack up your price to whatever level is acceptable to you, and apply for jobs at that price. Depending on your skill set, you can top out about $60/hr on ODesk. There's some skill involved in finding the people who are looking for quality, not just price.
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Well the answer to "why" is obviously the ability to be able to work anywhere in the world at anytime that suits you. Everything is a commodity yours/my skills included.
But as wellju (and myself earlier) suggested, I thin the biggest problem is competing with a billion 3rd world programmers.
As for getting something solid up on sorceforge, I'm not original enough to make something that stands out.
But as wellju (and myself earlier) suggested, I thin the biggest problem is competing with a billion 3rd world programmers.
As for getting something solid up on sorceforge, I'm not original enough to make something that stands out.
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If you try to compete with the $3/hr guys, you will always lose
You need to find the jobs posted by people who care about quality over price. They are out there, and they're also often looking for long term help. I've had one client on ODesk for 2 years, and I hear from her every few months when she needs something tweaked on her site.
You need to find the jobs posted by people who care about quality over price. They are out there, and they're also often looking for long term help. I've had one client on ODesk for 2 years, and I hear from her every few months when she needs something tweaked on her site.
Juk
04-06-2011
, 07:17 PM
04-07-2011
, 11:46 AM
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Top notch and free doesn't really compute imo.
If you're only talking about documentation for many things there's top notch stuff to be found (and if it's on the web, more up to date than non ebooks).
04-07-2011
, 11:47 AM
04-07-2011
, 11:55 AM
04-07-2011
, 12:42 PM
There's obviously gems that are only available online and more up to date.
I was referring to "the definite guide" Shoe Lace mentioned.
I got some "definite guides" in my shelf from 2002 that are as valid and up to date as it gets.
The thing is, why I'm advocating those books so much is not an affiliation with the publisher but what you can get from them.
It's the things you don't care about and you wouldn't ever look up that you have to read anyways in some way.
These books are not fully replaceable by web content, at least for my interests.
It also probably heavily depends on your field of interest. Turbo Pascal != Facebook marketing
Additionally, we're in the wordpress area of the web, shortly after google struggled so long with unbearable search results because of SEO specialists linkfarms so that literally everyone can publish his bs on the web.
I'm looking for the opinion of certain people on certain topics, and they often prefer to earn some money for their books instead of blogging the real content.
That's what I meant with top notch and free does not compute.
Or maybe I just turned into an "old" guy moaning at the youngsters on my lawn.
Note to self: Next time explain before, not try to justify after posting
Maybe we can revive the worst thread of this subforum so far and use it as a linkdump.
You read the book before, so you don't get stuck that often and refrain to post your issue on SO and get it solved without learning anything from it. Especially if you're under development pressure from your company, that's natural.
Of course you can use SO as learning tool to improve, but most of the time it's just homework or time pressure :/
But people often ask how they can stand out, and being very selective about the method you gather information (and not only the content itself) is one of the aspects imo.
I was referring to "the definite guide" Shoe Lace mentioned.
I got some "definite guides" in my shelf from 2002 that are as valid and up to date as it gets.
The thing is, why I'm advocating those books so much is not an affiliation with the publisher but what you can get from them.
It's the things you don't care about and you wouldn't ever look up that you have to read anyways in some way.
These books are not fully replaceable by web content, at least for my interests.
It also probably heavily depends on your field of interest. Turbo Pascal != Facebook marketing
Additionally, we're in the wordpress area of the web, shortly after google struggled so long with unbearable search results because of SEO specialists linkfarms so that literally everyone can publish his bs on the web.
I'm looking for the opinion of certain people on certain topics, and they often prefer to earn some money for their books instead of blogging the real content.
That's what I meant with top notch and free does not compute.
Or maybe I just turned into an "old" guy moaning at the youngsters on my lawn.
Note to self: Next time explain before, not try to justify after posting
Maybe we can revive the worst thread of this subforum so far and use it as a linkdump.
Of course you can use SO as learning tool to improve, but most of the time it's just homework or time pressure :/
But people often ask how they can stand out, and being very selective about the method you gather information (and not only the content itself) is one of the aspects imo.
Last edited by wellju; 04-07-2011 at 12:51 PM.
04-07-2011
, 01:05 PM
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You read the book before, so you don't get stuck that often and refrain to post your issue on SO and get it solved without learning anything from it. Especially if you're under development pressure from your company, that's natural.
Of course you can use SO as learning tool to improve, but most of the time it's just homework or time pressure :/
But people often ask how they can stand out, and being very selective about the method you gather information (and not only the content itself) is one of the aspects imo.
Of course you can use SO as learning tool to improve, but most of the time it's just homework or time pressure :/
But people often ask how they can stand out, and being very selective about the method you gather information (and not only the content itself) is one of the aspects imo.