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12-16-2013 , 10:04 PM
kero,

obv if you were smarter you wouldn't need "instructions". maybe try putting some ikea furniture together then come back to us? thx.
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12-16-2013 , 10:23 PM
Looking more and more forward to being in product and on the other side of developers output...
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12-16-2013 , 10:36 PM
kero,

you'll always be on the receiving side of my output.

Last edited by tyler_cracker; 12-16-2013 at 10:37 PM. Reason: nom
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12-16-2013 , 10:39 PM
When you're right you're right.
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12-16-2013 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I'm getting ****ing tired of devs who think they have a productionalized product but "don't have time" to ****ing document some of the steps. ****tards.
You could join a new age company where developers do releases and support. It helps address problems pretty well.
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12-17-2013 , 01:32 AM
Speaking of SQL, I've been reading SQL Antipatterns.

Lot of food for thought in this book. Lots of concepts and ideas I wasn't aware of, or if I was, I never put a name to. He makes a pretty strong case for using BLOBs, though I haven't been entirely convinced.

The section on making a comment system is quite enlightening as well.

Ultimately, I was quite surprised to see that some of the examples are from the "real world." I would have never considered.

A few things I learned that are shocking. Null is the same as an empty string in Oracle. I checked this online and I'm still can't believe if. Many popular ORMs use entity tables. I can't imagine how this is at all flexible, though I'm guessing flexibility isn't the real point of ORM?
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12-17-2013 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
You could join a new age company where developers do releases and support. It helps address problems pretty well.
<too much of a company specific rant deleted>

They already do that. The problem is they know how their rube goldberg system works and are "too busy" to fix it. This is going to collide head on with having to support more customers on the product and it's looking like I'm going to have to be pushing them to clean it up because no one else is... Funsies.
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12-17-2013 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
<too much of a company specific rant deleted>

They already do that. The problem is they know how their rube goldberg system works and are "too busy" to fix it. This is going to collide head on with having to support more customers on the product and it's looking like I'm going to have to be pushing them to clean it up because no one else is... Funsies.
It doesn't really sound like they are. If they're getting woken up whenever it breaks they'll quickly find time to fix it. And if they don't or the release process is a mess - who cares, thats their problem.
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12-17-2013 , 07:18 PM
Finally got around to playing with the Pi today. Flash SD card, boot all is fine (both with NOOBS and directly with a Raspian image) but as soon as I reboot it hangs on the rainbow splash thingy and I can't do anything (monitor+keyboard connected).
If I reflash the SD card it works on the first boot again but not afterwards.

Too tired to investigate, will report back tomorrow (will try networking+updates etc. but my testsetup of monitor and keyboard on the floor was too far from the cable to reach it without unplugging lol) :P
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12-18-2013 , 11:05 AM
Pretty strange...whenever I shutdown and try to reboot later it doesn't work (magically worked again this morning though). Already checked that the SD card is good and I'm waiting extra long after shutdown before unplugging (10x light sequence + like 10 minutes).

I suspect my power supply might not be good enough (but should be, it's a Galaxy S4 charger).

Oh well I'll just not shut down then...gogo megauptime :P [alas I would like to optimize a bit etc...for starters I'd like to use all the space and change the memory mapping]

Successfully set up CUPS and printed a page via the network....hurray. I'll just leave it be for now move on to the next two projects...

1) Get OpenWRT onto my spare WRT54GL (want to play with it but mostly use it as a wireless repeater and plug in my lan-only xbox upstairs)
2) Set up Linux box for my dad and migrate his data
3) Set up ownCloud on my webspace and GTFO Dropbox

I think I'll start with #2 (well install the Linux anyways) since I have the extra keyboard+monitor sitting on my floor currently
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12-18-2013 , 11:08 AM
How do people code without word wrap?? I mean lol horizontal scroll bars.
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12-18-2013 , 11:17 AM
Rails 4.1 beta just released and has some nice new features it seems.

http://coherence.io/blog/2013/12/17/...rails-4-1.html

Also, I just bought a book on angularjs out of boredom for kindle before a flight last weekend.

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Web-...ords=angularjs

One of the better programming books I've read. Covers real world edge cases for building production apps, including full test suites. Learned a ton even though I've already built a pretty big production angular app.
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12-18-2013 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
How do people code without word wrap?? I mean lol horizontal scroll bars.
I press enter?

I like my code formatted sanely, so I like to control when and how the text wraps.
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12-18-2013 , 11:54 AM
Stripe api documentation may be the best documentation I've ever seen.
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12-18-2013 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I press enter?

I like my code formatted sanely, so I like to control when and how the text wraps.
+1
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12-18-2013 , 12:28 PM
lines long enough to wrap are a smell anyway
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12-18-2013 , 12:39 PM
My Latex editor of choice (latexila) displays lines as wrapped (i.e. just fits to screensize) but doesn't actually add linewrapping. So if I view it all is coolio but if I share it with a coworker he goes bazerk.

I dunno I just write and don't hit enter at the end of lines for long paragraphs of text. When coding I always linebreak myself (hit enter) but I mean I split up long lines to be shorter anyways when we're talking code.
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12-18-2013 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
Finally got around to playing with the Pi today. Flash SD card, boot all is fine (both with NOOBS and directly with a Raspian image) but as soon as I reboot it hangs on the rainbow splash thingy and I can't do anything (monitor+keyboard connected).
If I reflash the SD card it works on the first boot again but not afterwards.

Too tired to investigate, will report back tomorrow (will try networking+updates etc. but my testsetup of monitor and keyboard on the floor was too far from the cable to reach it without unplugging lol) :P
Are you sure its hanging on boot? Mine took about 40 mins to boot up the first time because it was running a load of update scripts in the background. I could still SSH in tho, and monitor the processes.
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12-18-2013 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
lines long enough to wrap are a smell anyway
Is it still? Indenting but longDescriptiveFunctionNamesWithZazz(andWellNamedV ariables, seemsLikeItCouldAddUp.Quickly);
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12-18-2013 , 01:10 PM
Code:
longDescriptiveFunctionNamesWithZazz(
    andWellNamedVariables,
    seemsLikeItCouldAddUp.Quickly
);
.
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12-18-2013 , 01:24 PM
I was considering that a wrapped line for the purposes of this discussion. I just meant that I'll break one long logical line up onto multiple physical lines and space them accordingly rather than ever relying on word wrap.

Edit: Bonus points for the placement of );.
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12-18-2013 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWooster
Are you sure its hanging on boot? Mine took about 40 mins to boot up the first time because it was running a load of update scripts in the background. I could still SSH in tho, and monitor the processes.
No ssh and the card activity light isn't blinking at all
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12-18-2013 , 01:47 PM
if kero's psuedocode language has a real parser, i'll even add the trailing comma on the .quickly line!

but it's not what i think of as a wrapped line. i think exactly of kero's initial example.
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12-18-2013 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
No ssh and the card activity light isn't blinking at all
Odd. I did have issues with my power supply as well, but only when using a USB hub. Now its connected via an adapter direct to the wall and it works fine.

You also might want to check your SD card against this list http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
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12-18-2013 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Is it still? Indenting but longDescriptiveFunctionNamesWithZazz(andWellNamedV ariables, seemsLikeItCouldAddUp.Quickly);
all my variables are named well.
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