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06-06-2011 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Which C++ editor and compiler would you guys recommend to me?

I am currently using cygwin's emacs and g++ (forgot the right name) compiler.
Dont see anything wrong with this....
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06-06-2011 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I like Visual Studio C++.
Will use the Express version, since it's free.

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Originally Posted by MrWooster
Dont see anything wrong with this....
Beyond annoying and super beginner unfriendly, way too much **** to do to get something done.
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06-06-2011 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Beyond annoying and super beginner unfriendly, way too much **** to do to get something done.

Yes, but given that you even listed it as a possibility suggests that you know how to use emacs and g++... if this is the case then you have two very powerful tools at your disposal...
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06-06-2011 , 09:53 PM
To beta, or not to beta, that is the question.

I'm thinking of targeting my game for iOS 5 anyway, and it's not like I have the budget for a separate testbed, so...
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06-06-2011 , 10:08 PM
I can never remember how to get the production version back on my gadgets after I load the beta.
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06-06-2011 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I can never remember how to get the production version back on my gadgets after I load the beta.
When I did the iOS 4 beta for iPad I just stuck with it.
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06-06-2011 , 10:21 PM
I'll probably play with it since I don't think I've even opened Xcode this year and want to get something out my membership...
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06-07-2011 , 08:34 AM
If I have two network topologies in some kind of database representation, say two wireless networks I set up. I have most (if not all) relevant information about them, is there then a tool that can compare the two networks with each other?

Like, give certain distance/signal strength of the connections, is there a tool that can tell me which network is 'better'/more robust?
I'm toying around with network topologies to get my network set up optimally but analysis by hand is obviously annoying.
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06-07-2011 , 11:11 PM
just noticed the new subforum. interesting. kerowo is this your fault?

i see the python thread has already had its first foray into tabs vs spaces. can someone link me to emacs vs vi and c++ is dead?

are there any sysadmin/build engineer/configuration management types around here, or is it all code monkeys?
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06-07-2011 , 11:21 PM
Not entirely my fault, but I expressed my support for it. Mostly code based geekery as opposed to the hardware/malware geeks in CTH.
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06-07-2011 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
can someone link me to emacs vs vi
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...hoice-1006712/
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and c++ is dead?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-here-1003952/

predictable bunch lol
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06-07-2011 , 11:45 PM
ha, the emacs vs vi thread even has undercurrents of ide vs i-just-want-an-editor-dammit.
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06-08-2011 , 03:22 AM
I dabble in sysadmin occasionally
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06-08-2011 , 06:51 AM
Started downloading a bunch of open course stuff from Stanford and MIT.

Yikes. Java, python, C++ and LISP?

****

I'll obviously start with the intro stuff, but there is the option to either do an intro to programming via Python or Java. I guess it doesn't matter either way, but I am leaning more toward the Java stuff since it is more uh... spelled out?
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06-08-2011 , 07:56 AM
Java and Python are on opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to the philosophy of the language. Here is a response to a Java vs Python question that does a great job explaining the differences.

As far as which one? I like both languages. You said you had interest in mobile programing, so Java would get you one step closer to Android.
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06-08-2011 , 08:20 AM
I made my first ever game in Java... its a good place to start, but I think you should also take a look at python.
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06-08-2011 , 09:19 AM
Java is one of the many C based languages out there with some of the more complicated bits abstracted away. Python is one of the interpreted languages sort of developed in response to the complicated C based languages. Being exposed to both is good, but perhaps not at the same time...
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06-08-2011 , 09:25 AM
Saw this article today thought it was good:

http://norvig.com/21-days.html
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06-08-2011 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWooster
I dabble in sysadmin occasionally
ok, but are you an actual sysadmin, or are you one of those developers who says, "yeah, dude, i totally got this," and then decide that sysadminning isn't "real" code so you can just implement whatever hare-brained, non-revision-controlled, crappy hack you want?

not that i've, y'know, met any developers like this...

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Originally Posted by daveT
Started downloading a bunch of open course stuff from Stanford and MIT.

Yikes. Java, python, C++ and LISP?
if you just want to learn how to "program" (as a hobby or as a vocation), then sure, start with python or java.

if you want to learn computer science and/or how to really be a software engineer, you are doing yourself a huge disservice by passing on the MIT intro to CS class. yes, it uses a dialect of lisp (scheme), but _structure and interpretation of computer programs_ is an absolutely epic book and functional programming is a terrific thing to learn as a budding computer scientist.
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06-08-2011 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
are there any sysadmin/build engineer/configuration management types around here, or is it all code monkeys?
*raises hand* And in response to your 2nd post, I'm a real one. :P




On a different note...

Looking at outsourcing our current in house e-mail and file storage. Does anyone have any suggestions for providers they've worked with for either?

For e-mail, we're currently using Exchange, and it's critical to have data sync with cell phones and shared calendaring. Would prefer to use Outlook for the ability to do offline access. Obviously just going to hosted Exchange is one option, but wondered if there were good alternatives.

For file storage, needs to have the ability to do a local cached copy. So far, we're looking at Jungle Disk & Egnyte.

Thanks for any input.
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06-08-2011 , 12:05 PM
jalex,

real sysadmins don't use Exchange, so i call shenanigans .

for mail etc., google mail/docs/calendar perhaps?

for storage, i would suggest S3 or similar but that doesn't satisfy your local cached copy requirement. maybe dropbox?
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06-08-2011 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
ok, but are you an actual sysadmin, or are you one of those developers who says, "yeah, dude, i totally got this," and then decide that sysadminning isn't "real" code so you can just implement whatever hare-brained, non-revision-controlled, crappy hack you want?

not that i've, y'know, met any developers like this...
I dont work as a sysadmin but I do manage several of my own servers EC2 instances. They have all been set up from scratch and are quite highly customised.

I would not say I was an 'expert', but I can handle most sysadmin tasks and am pretty proficient at setting up a server environment (mail, ftp, webdav, ssh etc...)

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

Looking at outsourcing our current in house e-mail and file storage. Does anyone have any suggestions for providers they've worked with for either?

For e-mail, we're currently using Exchange, and it's critical to have data sync with cell phones and shared calendaring. Would prefer to use Outlook for the ability to do offline access. Obviously just going to hosted Exchange is one option, but wondered if there were good alternatives.

For file storage, needs to have the ability to do a local cached copy. So far, we're looking at Jungle Disk & Egnyte.

Thanks for any input.
Google Apps is pretty good for small to medium sized businesses
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06-08-2011 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
jalex,

real sysadmins don't use Exchange, so i call shenanigans .

for mail etc., google mail/docs/calendar perhaps?

for storage, i would suggest S3 or similar but that doesn't satisfy your local cached copy requirement. maybe dropbox?

haha re: exchange. Even worse it's SBS.

Yeah I need to research how google apps works with outlook. Want to make sure that it'll sync data between and allow offline access with outlook. I'm also curious how labels/folders work in this setup.

Yeah the only issue with dropbox is they don't do security very well. Works great if you don't mind people having access to a ton of stuff, but I need to be able to do typical ACL type security based on user.
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06-08-2011 , 07:08 PM
total newb question. I'm on the second video of the MIT ocw. Did the first assignment and now...

The lecturer says that in order to ensure that a number is a string use:

str(3),

but is there anything wrong with doing:

'3'

It appears, on its face, to work both ways.
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06-08-2011 , 07:26 PM
that works fine for the number three, but think about when you have a variable instead (x = 3).
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