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Originally Posted by PJo336
2nd Q unrelated to the current discussion:
Is it scummy to see a job posting from a recruiting company and then just apply directly to the actual tech company? Is it better or worse to go through the recruiter?
If a recruiter came to you directly with the job then it's at best, a little questionable. This is why recruiters are reluctant to give job info details right off the bat. If you saw it posted on, like, a recruiters web site then you literally do not owe them anything. If you don't have a relationship with the recruiter already then I would go through the company.
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Originally Posted by penguinpoker
I would much rather go through the company directly. The amount of bull**** you face when going through 3rd party recruiters in unbelievable.
Oh god this. I have had recruiters nearly screw up job deals before. I have been enraged by them personally, I have had them enrage the hiring company.
If you're looking for a job, and can find a *good* recruiter, i.e. someone who is actually going to do some work, and who has some ins at places you want to work, that is worth something. To just have a random person tagging along hoping for a payday is worse than useless.
The most recent recruiter I worked with
* outright lied to me on more than one occaison
* called me 1-2 times EVERY DAY whether he had something to report to me or needed something or not
* needled me until he found out the minimum I would accept from a company - then I am *pretty sure* he told that company that number
* in fact, once I told him that number, he treated that as an "informal acceptance of the job offer" which to me it most definitely was not. So the company thought I had informally accepted and I ended up negotiating more money after that.
* he sent me the offer letter from the company without their permission - they wanted to send it to me
Really just every interaction with this guy was annoying at best and pretty awful overall.