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03-28-2015 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by muttiah
Why are you dragging/dropping files around? Seems terminal would be way more efficient for that kind of thing. Time spend organizing files/folders seems like a waste of developer time.
You've never needed to re-organize your files but you weren't exactly sure the names of every file and folder in the target and destination path? Yes I know you can use a combination of auto-complete and ls with terminal, but that's not the same thing as being able to see the whole tree at once.

I actually use Sublime side-bar enhancements to move/copy files most of the time, which is really sweet. But it can only handle one file at a time - and I'm usually only looking at my project files.
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03-28-2015 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kazana
Search for
name: <part of or full file name>
Or if the prefix is too much to type wait a second for the dropdown to appear and select "name matches".

What I personally like about finder is the ability to quick preview selected files, and creating smart folders. Both options I have not seen in windows before switching over several years ago.
Yes, if you're used to windows, you'll struggle to get used to it. No doubt about that.
The only thing I still miss is the option to cut and paste files. I think TotalFinder has that added. Heard a lot of good things about it, haven't used it, yet, though.
You sir are a Golden God. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!



Yes I can cut & paste files in total finder. It's awesome for moving a file or block of files at a time. Just find/highlight your files, hit Cmd-X, then feel free to wander all over your Mac HD until you find where you want to put then, then hit Cmd-V. The standard drag&drop way of having to hold your mouse button down while endless folders auto-open is pretty painful imo.
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03-28-2015 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
I wonder if recruiters are becoming extinct actually. What value do they provide is the question that demands an answer.

For the client company the thinking I guess is that they don't have to spend as much money in filling job reqs. That seems debatable to me but admittedly I don't know for sure. Fees client companies would have to pay seem pretty high but again not sure.

For the job seeker they can get better access to the client companies but I have my doubts about that too. Many job reqs seem to be wish lists often with recruiters having little knowledge of what is really important to the client company. Then there are the fees the client company has to pay.
A lot of big companies like hire contract first, then go to perm if the person is good. So they are always getting pitched from various staffing firms packed with recruiters.
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03-28-2015 , 03:13 PM
I think for programmers and probably other knowledge workers it makes sense to have a sports agent type of involvment of the job brokers not random passive keywordmatching and annoying cold calls.

Maybe I'm really naive but run some programming events (meet and greets, hackathons), talk to the people, find out what they really want/like and ask them if you can represent them/anonymously "shop them around". Doesn't seem that complicated. You can also offer to be part of their job interviews/negotiate salary/benefits on their behalf.
I mean you can probably set up some scholarships/funds and get involved on the high school level as well.

Doesn't have to be local, you can wander around and attend interesting events all over the place and hand out your card (without being annoying).

Should I write my HN application? "Like sports/hollywood agents for programmers" (will scale later, concierge for now). Salaries (and thus your cut) are lower but high enough that you can make a good chunk with enough clients.

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03-28-2015 , 03:15 PM
The problem with recruiters, unlike sports agents, is they never expect any kind of long term relationship with you. So the first job offer you get, which in a white-hot job market is usually the first interview you go on, is THE ONLY AND BEST JOB FOR YOU IN THE WORLD. Any other interviews you may have had lined up mysteriously disappear.

I've never had a harder sales pitch in my life than when I was offered a job and told a recruiter I wanted to think about it. The first recruiter was my second real programming job so I was more than happy to take it. The second time around I should have held out for more options as I took a job that paid well but the work was boring as hell - which was my biggest concern going in.

The third time around (my current job) I was 95% sure I wanted to take it but wanted to sleep on it for one night. My recruiter blew a gasket and wouldn't leave me alone. One ****ing night. Scumbags.

The next time I'm definitely going to try to find companies I want to work for and contact them directly. The job before my current job I put my resume on craigslist, was contacted directly by the companies, and narrowed it down to 3 choices before deciding. At least I was a little more in control there.

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03-28-2015 , 03:26 PM
Programmers job hop a bunch though (eventhough the idea is matching them up well enough that they don't have to). There's probably some value in keeping in touch with the guys you got jobs for (word of mouth alone is easily worth it) but I can totally see just getting a call along the lines of "my wife just got a job offer in NY, can you look for jobs for me" or "I want to make more money/am unhappy at my current place". First contact and contract negotiation can still generate money for you even if you only take a cut on the first job you get for someone.
Just have to build some value added services.

The key is pretty much understanding how programmers think, genuinely trying to understand what they are good at and want to do and knowing who is looking for what.
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03-28-2015 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
You sir are a Golden God. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Glad I could help.

If you want to filter by further parts of the name you can add that part after a space.

Using your example, to limit to .js files search for name: zipcode .js
Alternatively, use name: zipcode kind: javascript
(second alternative helpful for example if you want to search for .jpg or .jpeg at the same time; kind: jpg covers both)

Basic takeaway is that wildcards do not work in finder search.
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03-28-2015 , 03:36 PM
And for the frustrated mac users trying hard to love it, my best advice is to start using spotlight.

If you aren't an avid user already, I can only encourage you to start exploring it. Since Yosemite, it has been my largest productivity booster by far. I, too, have ignored its beauty before the latest updates.

Here's a very basic overview.

That only scratches the surface, though. My favourite latest addition is built-in conversions.
To get an idea about conversions, open spotlight (cmd+space) and enter "15ft", or "18oz", or "JPY15000"
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03-28-2015 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The problem with recruiters, unlike sports agents, is they never expect any kind of long term relationship with you. So the first job offer you get, which in a white-hot job market is usually the first interview you go on, is THE ONLY AND BEST JOB FOR YOU IN THE WORLD. Any other interviews you may have had lined up mysteriously disappear.
Most recruiters seem to operate that way. A big mistake in my opinion.
There are other recruiters, though. While I was still living in Europe, I worked almost exclusively with one specific recruiter who placed me in 4 different projects across Europe.
He probably made a ton off of placing me and I sure hope he did. That guy was excellent.

Haven't found a comparable recruiter since moving, yet. Makes me a sad panda.
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03-28-2015 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
Programmers job hop a bunch though (eventhough the idea is matching them up well enough that they don't have to). There's probably some value in keeping in touch with the guys you got jobs for (word of mouth alone is easily worth it) but I can totally see just getting a call along the lines of "my wife just got a job offer in NY, can you look for jobs for me" or "I want to make more money/am unhappy at my current place". First contact and contract negotiation can still generate money for you even if you only take a cut on the first job you get for someone.
Just have to build some value added services.

The key is pretty much understanding how programmers think, genuinely trying to understand what they are good at and want to do and knowing who is looking for what.
But recruiters can't contact every team out there the way agents can. Most companies have exclusive relationships with a small number of them. So while you may get lucky and your previous recruiter has a great job for you - that's only a tiny subset of the jobs available in your area. Recruiters know this, they know the odds of working with you again are low.
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03-28-2015 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kazana
And for the frustrated mac users trying hard to love it, my best advice is to start using spotlight.

If you aren't an avid user already, I can only encourage you to start exploring it. Since Yosemite, it has been my largest productivity booster by far. I, too, have ignored its beauty before the latest updates.

Here's a very basic overview.

That only scratches the surface, though. My favourite latest addition is built-in conversions.
To get an idea about conversions, open spotlight (cmd+space) and enter "15ft", or "18oz", or "JPY15000"
Spotlight is great for finding one thing. But when I'm trying to run down a group of things, I want to be able to see any manipulate the list in finder.
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03-28-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sthief09
I'm having some major problems and wondering if anyone has done this before:

- I'm trying to install several python packages on a production cluster for a client. the OS is RHEL. the cluster has no access to the internet so no pip install. everything is manual
- specifically I'm having trouble with numpy, scipy, and scikit-learn because of the underlying linear algebra packages BLAS and LAPACK

the libraries import ok, e.g. 'import scipy' words, but 'from scipy import linregress' throws an error related to the linear algebra packages.

I got one node to work after hours of work and am having trouble replicating the work. the problem seems to be linking the packages.

specifically, on the nodes that don't work, I run the following:
import numpy as np
np.__config__.show()

I'll be more specific with error messages if anyone might be able to help (which I'd really appreciate!)

and everything is NOT AVAILABLE

I have compiled those packages so I'm not sure how to go about linking the numpy (and all others) install
to the right location for these packages.
I don't have any advice, but can express sympathy. Installing numpy/scipy/scikit-learn can be a huge pain in the ass and I remember having to delete and recompile a bunch of libraries to get it working properly.

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03-28-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kazana
Most recruiters seem to operate that way. A big mistake in my opinion.
There are other recruiters, though. While I was still living in Europe, I worked almost exclusively with one specific recruiter who placed me in 4 different projects across Europe.
He probably made a ton off of placing me and I sure hope he did. That guy was excellent.

Haven't found a comparable recruiter since moving, yet. Makes me a sad panda.
That would be awesome if all the recruiters would organize themselves like say junkyards - where they have some central DB of everything that's available - and the originating recruiter gets a cut if the person eventually signs through another recruiter. Might be a startup opportunity there.

The problem is recruiters are very selfish and they know they're going to get offers for you if you're a good candidate. So why would they want to take a cut of commission instead of the whole thing? Maybe you set it up where recruiters sign you exclusively and any job you get through the network - they get the lion's share. Then you just need to get up to critical mass where some significant % of the jobs out there are in the network.

Also of course right about the time you get up and running the social media bubble will pop and the job market will tank. Recruiters are like real-estate flippers - they only make money in an up-market.
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03-28-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
But recruiters can't contact every team out there the way agents can. Most companies have exclusive relationships with a small number of them. So while you may get lucky and your previous recruiter has a great job for you - that's only a tiny subset of the jobs available in your area. Recruiters know this, they know the odds of working with you again are low.
Still once I've placed someone and actually met them in person and understand what they really value there should be enough trust that they'll probably call me when they think about changing jobs. At least that's the kind of relationship I have in mind...even if they'll find the job on their own they'd feel comfortable calling me.
Even if there's no repeat business that's fine.

I mean what would happen if I flew to SV today with a listing of all startups I know and went door to door and talked to them (or tried to) to get a basic interest in what kind of people they'd be interested in hireing in the future then went to a bunch of tech events/meetings etc. and just talked to people and get a feeling and maybe found a match or two.
Likewise you'd probably find someone (if you try and are the type of person) at one of the big tech companies that would be open to an offer along the lines of "let me wander around for a couple of month and bring you three people to interview and let's measure how they stack up against the typical guys walking in"

The main problem is that most recruiters I know play a numbers game and more often than not don't even know what it is that the people they talk to actually do.

In fact I could already see collecting a bunch of available CVs and actually reading them and trying to understand how the person ticks before calling them as a major+...it's just that broken.

tl;dr: quality > quantity...taking really good care of a couple of people > cold calling thousands. In the short run the numbers game will yield more, in the long run it'll probably yield the same. Once you have dealt with a couple of people and got some jobs and they actually had the feeling that you cared...I think you'll get good enough word of mouth to make it worth in the long run.
I could be completely wrong but tbh we're in a state were I'd be pretty wowed to be called by a recruiter that understood what I do....it's that bad.
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03-28-2015 , 05:54 PM
Are you all getting 20 job offers a day because you all live in California? Or what's the deal with that?
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03-28-2015 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sthief09
I'm having some major problems and wondering if anyone has done this before:

- I'm trying to install several python packages on a production cluster for a client. the OS is RHEL. the cluster has no access to the internet so no pip install. everything is manual
I'm not familiar with pip at all but can't you just mirror the repository and point to that instead? Generally that's how you'd solve this problem with other package managers.
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03-28-2015 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anais
Are you all getting 20 job offers a day because you all live in California? Or what's the deal with that?
I'm getting nowhere near that many, but it probably has to do with being in California. It also has to do with knowing an unorthodox language and having a github profile that has programs with more than 50 LOC. Most recruiters find me on github or Hacker News.
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03-28-2015 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
I'm not familiar with pip at all but can't you just mirror the repository and point to that instead? Generally that's how you'd solve this problem with other package managers.
thanks for the advice. can I do this with no network connection, other than using scp to move things from my local computer?
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03-28-2015 , 10:38 PM
seems like this is applicable http://aboutsimon.com/2012/02/24/cre...l-pypi-mirror/
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03-28-2015 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I'm getting nowhere near that many, but it probably has to do with being in California. It also has to do with knowing an unorthodox language and having a github profile that has programs with more than 50 LOC. Most recruiters find me on github or Hacker News.
I need to step up on github game. I contribute on github, but not nearly enough I think. But hopefully I can get active this summer.
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03-29-2015 , 01:01 AM
Attended a programming contest today.

Teams were provided a laptop with no IDE and it made me realize how much I love code completion. Spent too much time going through the documentation because of no code completion but still did all right.

On topic related to recruiting...
How common is it for employers to pay travel costs when inviting out-of-town candidates to interview.
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03-29-2015 , 08:08 AM
Very common. In fact I've never heard of it not happening and would be suspicious of a company that wouldn't pay those costs.
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03-29-2015 , 10:28 AM
I had a really busy month.

I had an assessment day interview with an IT consulting company that I really want to work for. I got a job offer the next day All the recent talk about interviews helped but there was no actual technical questions. Just an individual presentation on yourself, a group exercise, and a group interview with 2 other candidates(!). After a long time ****ing around with freelancing and bad startups itfeelsgoodman.jpg

A web development freelance job also landed in my lap after a dev left at the last minute. I had to launch a wordpress site in 4 days with no prior experience of wp and minimal php knowledge.

I also had to spend a day making it look ok on mobile (it's not 100% responsive but I reckon it'll only take slightly more than a day to do that).

I forgot how god damn stressful it was to launch a site and working long 14+ hour days. Most of my good habits went out the window. Back to eating rubbish and getting takeaways and no daily exercise. Though once the major humps were gotten over it was a bit more relaxing.

I used a lot of highcharts (a really pretty looking js charting framework - they also do stock and mapping stuff which I didn't use but it looks cool) which were a pleasure to work with. Their api is well documented and nearly every feature has a jsfiddle example linked.

For the mobile design / responsive stuff I used javascripts window.matchMedia. I adapted the code from this example site.

For my use case that was enough but I saw mention of enquire.js. Has anyone used it?
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03-29-2015 , 11:31 PM
Paying travel costs is 100% standard
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03-30-2015 , 03:53 PM
so have to share this, excuse the brag I guess:

I bought a new BMW recently. Today this package was shipped to me, nice looking box, open it and it contains a metal and very heavy replica of my car key that is a USB flash drive. Um OK I guess?

I plug it in and it has 4 BMW car commercials in mp4, and an html file which contains..

Code:
<script type="text/javascript">
      window.location.href = "http://www.bmwusa.com/welcome";
</script>
yeah. Best part: the flash drive is 2gb.

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