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02-26-2015 , 01:35 PM
I may know of a "rails architect" position in Beverly Hills if anyone is interested.

Prolog, erlang, LaTex, COBOL, Forth, Jbuilder, Ada, Notepad++ and XSLT also required of course.
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02-26-2015 , 01:44 PM
anyone read about this? was just announced last week. caused quite a rift, with MapR and Cloudera holding out (and speaking out against it). http://opendataplatform.org/
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02-26-2015 , 02:31 PM
Yeah, I'm with Cloudera (http://vision.cloudera.com/the-open-...form-alliance/) and view it as mostly marketing with no real implications.

It's all well and good for someone like Hortonworks to say that they're all open source and pushing that vision - but in many ways they have a huge influence on what actually happens with the big data Apache projects. They can (and often indirectly do) kill features/directions that aren't important to them.

The Apache contribution model/technologies/processes are so broken that if you don't have deep buy in from committers (most of whom are employed by the same few companies and only work on the things that their company tells them to work on) you're never going to get your changes accepted. If you generate a non-trivial patch it'll sit there for weeks (or longer) before being looked at - at which point its almost certainly not going to apply cleanly and you're back at square one. I don't see how bringing more enterprise level process/organization is going to address this core problem.

But don't get me wrong, I still appreciate the open source view of Hortonworks over the more closed view that Cloudera has.
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02-26-2015 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sthief09
anyone read about this? was just announced last week. caused quite a rift, with MapR and Cloudera holding out (and speaking out against it). http://opendataplatform.org/
This sounds a lot like OpenStack. A bunch of companies who lost out in the marketplace coming together mostly for joint branding and marketing without any coherent vision or purpose.
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02-26-2015 , 02:46 PM
In this case I don't think its so much that they've lost out in the marketplace as they're trying to protect whats been working fairly well for them.

It's really hard to know actual numbers, but the rumours I heard were that Hortonworks was doing better than Cloudera in a number of ways. That being said Cloudera raised a crazy amount of money, so they're certainly not hurting.
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02-26-2015 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Yeah, I'm with Cloudera (http://vision.cloudera.com/the-open-...form-alliance/) and view it as mostly marketing with no real implications.
I mean Capgemini is a "GOLD" sponsor. That's all you really need to know to figure out there is nothing substantial actually happening here.
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02-26-2015 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
What do people here use for continuous integration/delivery/deployment? Not too thrilled with TFS or Jenkins. TeamCity sounds promising though hosted would probably be better. Since our needs are not complex, something that handles all the way to deployment would be preferable. Is Bamboo any good? Any .NET people here have experience with AppHarbor?
Ok, so I've tried out TeamCity, Bamboo and AppVeyor and will be going with AppVeyor for now. It's just way ahead of the other options available for Windows. I haven't tried Travis CI because it doesn't support Windows but from what everyone's saying, they are pretty similar in nature.
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02-27-2015 , 12:42 AM
Friend forwarded me $1000/day job, up for grabs! You'll need experience with a CMS (content management system), and you'll also need to know how to work with a CMS (content management system).

Last edited by Grue; 02-27-2015 at 12:52 AM.
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02-27-2015 , 01:43 AM
*alert, functional programming content*

Dabbling into Haskell here. IO is blowing my mind. How come monads are so underrated for what they represent?

IO is essentially connecting OOP with functional programming. Also allows for connection between the why and the how with anything we can model in real life.
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02-27-2015 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I may know of a "rails architect" position in Beverly Hills if anyone is interested.

Prolog, erlang, LaTex, COBOL, Forth, Jbuilder, Ada, Notepad++ and XSLT also required of course.
Damn. I really need to learn to use Notepad++. It's in such high demand these days.
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02-27-2015 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fluorescenthippo
Dabbling into Haskell here. IO is blowing my mind. How come monads are so underrated for what they represent?
underrated by who? there are people on twitter who seem to do nothing all day but tweet about how much they ****ing love monads.
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02-27-2015 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
Friend forwarded me $1000/day job, up for grabs! You'll need experience with a CMS (content management system), and you'll also need to know how to work with a CMS (content management system).
I read the written descriptions and that project sounds like hell.
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02-27-2015 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fluorescenthippo
*alert, functional programming content*

Dabbling into Haskell here. IO is blowing my mind. How come monads are so underrated for what they represent?

IO is essentially connecting OOP with functional programming. Also allows for connection between the why and the how with anything we can model in real life.
System.out does the same thing with a lot less fanfare.

In all seriousness, the best way to understand monadic programming is to imagine that you're not actually writing a program that executes directly, but rather writing a program that creates a program that executes, and so on and on. Writing a program in Haskell feels a lot like writing a compiler in other languages.
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02-27-2015 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Yeah, I'm with Cloudera (http://vision.cloudera.com/the-open-...form-alliance/) and view it as mostly marketing with no real implications.

It's all well and good for someone like Hortonworks to say that they're all open source and pushing that vision - but in many ways they have a huge influence on what actually happens with the big data Apache projects. They can (and often indirectly do) kill features/directions that aren't important to them.

The Apache contribution model/technologies/processes are so broken that if you don't have deep buy in from committers (most of whom are employed by the same few companies and only work on the things that their company tells them to work on) you're never going to get your changes accepted. If you generate a non-trivial patch it'll sit there for weeks (or longer) before being looked at - at which point its almost certainly not going to apply cleanly and you're back at square one. I don't see how bringing more enterprise level process/organization is going to address this core problem.

But don't get me wrong, I still appreciate the open source view of Hortonworks over the more closed view that Cloudera has.
Capgemini being on the list tells me a lot. Stay away imo.

Edit: I see Larry had the pleasure of doing business/being involved with them as well
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02-27-2015 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I may know of a "rails architect" position in Beverly Hills if anyone is interested.

Prolog, erlang, LaTex, COBOL, Forth, Jbuilder, Ada, Notepad++ and XSLT also required of course.
Interesting choice of languages
Prolog and Erlang are obviously awesome. Forth is sick, I've seen some pretty cool hardware running on a Forth stack at CCC. Ada I don't know much about except that it had some influence on other languages*.

*
Spoiler:
get it?
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03-01-2015 , 04:36 AM
Am I the only one that gets silently irritated when I see files named like this?

My Awesome file.txt

Call me a nit, but I *always* name it like this:

my-awesome-file.txt

sorry, it is raining in LA and I'm drunk right now.

Last edited by daveT; 03-01-2015 at 04:36 AM. Reason: it was raining, I don't know if it is anymore...
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03-01-2015 , 05:05 AM
Ya, I suffer from the same affliction. Only difference being I use underscore instead.
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03-01-2015 , 05:47 AM
I like to use spaces so as to make life as hard as possible on developers working in Windows.
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03-01-2015 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
Am I the only one that gets silently irritated when I see files named like this?

My Awesome file.txt

Call me a nit, but I *always* name it like this:

my-awesome-file.txt

sorry, it is raining in LA and I'm drunk right now.
Same for me.
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03-01-2015 , 02:16 PM
Underscores for the super_nit.
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03-01-2015 , 02:21 PM
CamelCaseTakesFewerKeystrokesSortOfButNotReally
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03-01-2015 , 02:44 PM
**** underscores.
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03-01-2015 , 02:57 PM
Until the mid-2000s or so Java couldn't handle spaces in filenames. Dashes always made me nervous as well. So for non-code files I always just used underscores.
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03-01-2015 , 03:34 PM
3 to 1 post ratio on HN "who's hiring" vs "who's looking" is pretty interesting.
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03-01-2015 , 04:46 PM
It's not. One is on the front page and the other isn't. I'd guess most users never leave the front page of hacker news.

If you want to get the most bizarre job propositions you've ever seen, do post in "who's looking."
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