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03-17-2014 , 11:50 AM

#12851

iosys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

Here's a list of libraries used by an Open Source Project I work on.

Code:

./accumulo-core-1.5.0.jar
./accumulo-fate-1.5.0.jar
./accumulo-minicluster-1.5.0.jar
./accumulo-server-1.5.0.jar
./accumulo-start-1.5.0.jar
./accumulo-trace-1.5.0.jar
./ant-1.6.5.jar
./antlr-2.7.7.jar
./antlr-3.4.jar
./antlr-runtime-3.4.jar
./asm-3.3.1.jar
./automaton-1.11-8.jar
./avro-1.7.5.jar
./avro-ipc-1.7.5-tests.jar
./avro-mapred-1.7.5.jar
./avro-tools-1.7.5-nodeps.jar
./commons-beanutils-1.7.0.jar
./commons-beanutils-core-1.8.0.jar
./commons-cli-1.2.jar
./commons-codec-1.4.jar
./commons-collections-3.2.1.jar
./commons-compress-1.4.1.jar
./commons-configuration-1.6.jar
./commons-digester-1.8.jar
./commons-el-1.0.jar
./commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
./commons-io-2.3.jar
./commons-lang-2.4.jar
./commons-logging-1.1.1.jar
./commons-math-2.1.jar
./commons-net-1.4.1.jar
./commons-vfs2-2.0.jar
./core-3.1.1.jar
./ftplet-api-1.0.0.jar
./ftpserver-core-1.0.0.jar
./ftpserver-deprecated-1.0.0-M2.jar
./groovy-all-1.8.6.jar
./gson-2.2.2.jar
./guava-11.0.jar
./hadoop-core-1.0.4.jar
./hadoop-test-1.0.4.jar
./hamcrest-core-1.3.jar
./hbase-0.94.1-tests.jar
./hbase-0.94.1.jar
./high-scale-lib-1.1.1.jar
./hive-exec-0.8.0.jar
./hsqldb-1.8.0.10.jar
./httpclient-4.1.3.jar
./httpcore-4.1.3.jar
./jackson-core-asl-1.8.8.jar
./jackson-mapper-asl-1.8.8.jar
./jansi-1.9.jar
./jasper-compiler-5.5.12.jar
./jasper-runtime-5.5.12.jar
./javacc-4.2.jar
./javacc.jar
./jcommander-1.30.jar
./jdeb-0.8.jar
./jersey-core-1.8.jar
./jets3t-0.7.1.jar
./jetty-6.1.26.jar
./jetty-util-6.1.26.jar
./jline-1.0.jar
./joda-time-2.1.jar
./jopt-simple-4.1.jar
./jruby-complete-1.6.7.jar
./js-1.7R2.jar
./json-simple-1.1.jar
./jsp-2.1-6.1.14.jar
./jsp-api-2.1-6.1.14.jar
./junit-3.8.1.jar
./junit-4.11.jar
./jython-standalone-2.5.3.jar
./kfs-0.3.jar
./libthrift-0.9.0.jar
./log4j-1.2.16.jar
./maven-scm-api-1.4.jar
./maven-scm-provider-svn-commons-1.4.jar
./maven-scm-provider-svnexe-1.4.jar
./metrics-core-2.1.2.jar
./mina-core-2.0.0-M5.jar
./mockito-all-1.8.4.jar
./netty-3.2.2.Final.jar
./netty-3.4.0.Final.jar
./oro-2.0.8.jar
./paranamer-2.3.jar
./parquet-pig-bundle-1.2.3.jar
./plexus-utils-1.5.6.jar
./protobuf-java-2.4.0a.jar
./regexp-1.3.jar
./serializer-2.7.1.jar
./servlet-api-2.5-20081211.jar
./servlet-api-2.5-6.1.14.jar
./slf4j-api-1.6.4.jar
./slf4j-log4j12-1.6.1.jar
./snappy-java-1.0.5.jar
./ST4-4.0.4.jar
./stringtemplate-3.2.1.jar
./trevni-avro-1.7.5-tests.jar
./trevni-avro-1.7.5.jar
./trevni-core-1.7.5-tests.jar
./trevni-core-1.7.5.jar
./velocity-1.7.jar
./xalan-2.7.1.jar
./xercesImpl-2.10.0.jar
./xml-apis-1.4.01.jar
./xmlenc-0.52.jar
./xz-1.0.jar
./zookeeper-3.4.5.jar

Let me know when you understand what is actually happening with all of the libraries.

Edit: I should also point out that a bunch of libraries (guava, commons-*, log4j, ...) are also being used by a bunch of the libraries in that list.

Oh, and the grand total is 91M in size.

Yah I know a majority of those you listed but just curious if you can write anything to my first post. I'm not using anywhere close to what you listed for the record. Idk if I'm coming off as a jerk in my posts but I just disagree and don't see any evidence other than lol no with no example which I asked for.

Edit: at the most 10

Last edited by iosys; 03-17-2014 at 12:00 PM.

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03-17-2014 , 12:08 PM

#12852

jjshabado

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What's your first post? I thought I already answered your first post where you were all whiny about me not saying what I meant by being messy.

As for no evidence, wtf? There's >100 libraries there. Are you honestly saying you can understand all of their inter dependencies? That that's practical?

Explain how you go about upgrading guava in your world where there's just a bunch of jars sitting around in a directory? Do you manually look at each library you use and figure out if it supports the latest version?

Or if you need to use a new library like httpcore do you add the jar and then just run your program a bunch until you get an exception saying Java can't find a class implementation, then track down the jar that has that class, add it, and rinse and repeat?

If you're still not really sure what you're missing, read something like this: http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/book...1741/ch04.html or google for other dependency management resources.

Edit: I've had to do the "run a bunch and see what jars I'm missing" before in a totally separate context. It's ****ty, frustrating, and not at all comprehensive. Advocating that its a good approach for people to take just shows that you're inexperienced.

Edit2: Also, just for the record, I don't believe at all that you're familiar with the majority of those jars. No way to prove it one way or the other I guess.

Last edited by jjshabado; 03-17-2014 at 12:16 PM.

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03-17-2014 , 01:45 PM

#12853

iosys

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So are you advocating something similar to npm install to be a standard that should be incorporated with something that handles changes on the backend?

edit: I think you seem to be whiny about the discussion for some odd reason.

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03-17-2014 , 02:03 PM

#12854

gaming_mouse

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i think he's just saying in general you should use a package manager for anything but trivial projects. package managers solve a real, well-defined, recurring problem and solve it well, and claiming that you don't need them if you are careful and diligent is just kind of silly

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03-17-2014 , 02:03 PM

#12855

e i pi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nchabazam

Probably something simple, but I can't seem to find any blog posts/SO posts about having multiple ajax mocks.

use this,

http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngMock/service/$httpBackend

nevermind looks like you did this

@http = _$httpBackend_

Last edited by e i pi; 03-17-2014 at 02:07 PM. Reason: nevermind

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03-17-2014 , 02:07 PM

#12856

jjshabado

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iosys

edit: I think you seem to be whiny about the discussion for some odd reason.

Meh. You don't really seem to be worth my time. Good luck.

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03-17-2014 , 02:08 PM

#12857

Nchabazam

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Quote:

Originally Posted by e i pi

use this,

http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngMock/service/$httpBackend

nevermind looks like you did this

@http = _$httpBackend_

Ya turned out the problem was passing in the exact time as a parameter. I didn't get great feedback from the spec runner, so I was confused. I got it to work once I formatted the date so it would be consistent.

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03-17-2014 , 02:22 PM

#12858

Nchabazam

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Pretty easy fix, just creating the date like

Code:

$scope.dt = $filter('date')(new Date(), "yyyy-MM-dd")

Now back to trying to test drive stuff.

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03-17-2014 , 02:25 PM

#12859

e i pi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nchabazam

I looked into this a bit and it seems like you can pass in a regex to the $httpBackend.whenGet method

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...-one-parameter

Looking at the docs it looks like theres some css mistake which makes the text color of 'Regex' in the type column the same color as the background, hiding it. lol

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03-17-2014 , 02:42 PM

#12860

Nchabazam

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Quote:

Originally Posted by e i pi

It's interesting to look at this stuff. I started working with angular a year ago, and haven't written any tests until recently. The framework/community support has come a long way in that time... but searching for stuff about testing, it's pretty apparent people are skimping.

$httpBackend with parameters only has two stackoverflow responses!

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03-17-2014 , 02:52 PM

#12861

iosys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

Meh. You don't really seem to be worth my time. Good luck.

LOL ok

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03-17-2014 , 02:59 PM

#12862

e i pi

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Come to think of it, I hit a problem with testing a directives parent scope like two months ago and tracked down the answer to a week old issue on the angular github. They changed the name of a method or something and it wasn't in the documentation yet.

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03-17-2014 , 05:27 PM

#12863

clowntable

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I don't even understand (as in have looked at the implementation of) most of Java's standard library. But heeeeeya Java 8 has functional stuff so time to use it a bit more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaming_mouse

You don't need package managers.
Well people use them a lot in real world scenarios.
Well you don't need them if you are diligent and careful.
[freely reconstructed by me]

That subpart of the debate makes me wonder if Scotsmen or possibly even true Scotsmen are involved in the debate :P

Last edited by clowntable; 03-17-2014 at 05:32 PM.

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03-17-2014 , 05:38 PM

#12864

jjshabado

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03-17-2014 , 05:48 PM

#12865

Grue

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I cannot believe it took me this long to get into Tampermonkey. So freaking great.

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03-17-2014 , 09:51 PM

#12866

iosys

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,753

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

I don't even understand (as in have looked at the implementation of) most of Java's standard library. But heeeeeya Java 8 has functional stuff so time to use it a bit more.

You don't need package managers.
Well people use them a lot in real world scenarios.
Well you don't need them if you are diligent and careful.
[freely reconstructed by me]

That subpart of the debate makes me wonder if Scotsmen or possibly even true Scotsmen are involved in the debate :P

Sort of like the option of using an IDE or instead a text editor

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03-18-2014 , 09:36 AM

#12867

Nchabazam

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Finally figured out how to veil the clunkiness of the initial page load on an angular app using a gmail style loading bar (to be fair, I wasn't looking that hard).

I like figuring out the small stuff.

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03-18-2014 , 01:59 PM

#12868

clowntable

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Pretty neat imo (March Madness bracked that you can fill by providing a JS function):
https://www.codersbracket.com/code_bracket

I'll play around with that (and some historical data) if I find the time tonight...I think the first games are Thursday?

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03-18-2014 , 02:06 PM

#12869

jjshabado

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Thats awesome. I wish I cared about basketball.

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03-18-2014 , 02:14 PM

#12870

Nchabazam

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,938

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

If you figure out who is going to win, let me know. I'll be in Vegas hemorrhaging money on games I know nothing about.

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03-18-2014 , 04:25 PM

#12871

maxtower

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

Is there a way to use vegas odds to generate a random bracket?

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03-18-2014 , 09:40 PM

#12872

well named

poorly undertitled

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 78,085

You could probably generate a bracket pretty easy using the interactive bracket on fivethirtyeight.com

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03-19-2014 , 10:56 AM

#12873

Dudd

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It's unfortunate that coder's bracket didn't allow access to kenpom's ranking or something similar, you could whip up something reasonably close to vegas odds in no time if that was available.

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03-19-2014 , 12:55 PM

#12874

maxtower

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I used this to generate my Billion$ bracket.
[PHP]
function (game, team1, team2) {

var rand1 = Math.random();
var rand2 = Math.random();
var rpi_adj = 3*(team1.rpi - team2.rpi);

if (rand1+rpi_adj > rand2-rpi_adj) {
team1.winsGame();
} else {
team2.winsGame();
}

}[/PHP]

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03-19-2014 , 01:09 PM

#12875

Dudd

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In case you're curious what the odds of winning your billion actually is, I wrote some code last night to figure it out. Keep your fingers crossed imo

http://www.devinshelly.com/so-what-a...llion-dollars/