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03-17-2013 , 03:53 PM

#7801

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,183

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

I must suck at communicating. The idea is precisely targeting the zero knowledge guy. Basically the add would be "ok, you know nothing...learn these skills in a couple of weeks and swing by our office". Job interview would focus heavily on the learnign process and how they went about that.
Wouldn't be targeted at a guy that can do the stuff in the add but at a guy that can quickly learn the stuff in the add.

This just doesn't sound viable at all. You'd be better off going to a tech schools job fair and trying to hand pick the uber nerds and hire them as jr programmers and then train them up. Self reported success at self learning will get you good liars more often than good coders. Why not start running a workshop to teach those skills and cherry pick from there? Limit applicants to recent grads or something. Then you're improving the world and running a two week job interview for jr programmers.

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03-17-2013 , 04:11 PM

#7802

aisflat439

centurion

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

The idea is precisely targeting the zero knowledge guy. Basically the add would be "ok, you know nothing...learn these skills in a couple of weeks and swing by our office". Job interview would focus heavily on the learnign process and how they went about that.
Wouldn't be targeted at a guy that can do the stuff in the add but at a guy that can quickly learn the stuff in the add.

Another part of this is the transitioning fields people. There are probably a lot of people like me who are back in school to become software engineers and CS majors, who would like very much a job like you describe.

If the universe you described existed I would be looking for high performing people from other fields who are switching careers, high performing tech school candidates and recent grads.

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03-17-2013 , 04:41 PM

#7803

Urinal Mint

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 275

Looking for a bit of help.

I want to install Linux on a USB and be able to write and run programs in C on it. (More languages too but I'll worry about that later.)

So I think I can use this website: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ to install Linux onto the USB. But from there, since there are so many options, anyone have a recommendation of which distribution to use?

Then I'd assume I need to download a compiler and a text-editor -- suggestions? Other useful things you'd recommend I install / read for advice?

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03-17-2013 , 04:46 PM

#7804

tyler_cracker

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ubuntu

gcc

emacs or vim

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03-17-2013 , 04:52 PM

#7805

KatoKrazy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,623

So I will be graduating with my A.S. in CS in May. (Program curriculum)

I've received A's in all the math and CS courses. The Comp 2243 (Programming and Problem Solving) and Comp 2247 (Algorithms and Data Structures) courses were both taught in Java.

What sort of job do you guys think I should be looking for while I work on my B.S.?

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03-17-2013 , 05:04 PM

#7806

tyler_cracker

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i hear commercial fishing is both glamorous and lucrative.

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03-17-2013 , 05:12 PM

#7807

KatoKrazy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,623

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler_cracker

i hear commercial fishing is both glamorous and lucrative.

I'd rather go after Gators.

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03-17-2013 , 05:20 PM

#7808

tyler_cracker

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sure, just remember that it's hard to program if you can't type, and it's hard to type if you don't have any fingers.

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03-17-2013 , 05:26 PM

#7809

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler_cracker

ubuntu

On a USB stick?

Mr. Mint, why don't you use a VM?

If you're using that book I linked to, it is probably best to use GCC. You'll end up having to install devtools or something similar on the OS to get running.

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03-17-2013 , 05:28 PM

#7810

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

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Pertinent to the above discussion about jobs and stuff: http://www.codecademy.com/stories

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03-17-2013 , 05:28 PM

#7811

tyler_cracker

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dave,

why not on a usb stick?

i think urinal is the guy who wanted to dick around with linux in his school's lab or something where he can't install a hypervisor.

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03-17-2013 , 05:33 PM

#7812

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

Ubuntu is such a beast that it brought my VM to it's knees until I got rid of Unity / Gnome.

edit: Why not Lubuntu or something very very lightweight?

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03-17-2013 , 05:42 PM

#7813

tyler_cracker

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i was just trying to point him at what i thought would be easy and standard. i'm sure your suggestions are terrific.

Last edited by tyler_cracker; 03-17-2013 at 05:43 PM. Reason: /me hasn't bothered with distrowars since installing debian unstable on that box in the corner back in 2002

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03-17-2013 , 05:50 PM

#7814

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

What are these Distros you speak of? Why is there a war?

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03-17-2013 , 05:55 PM

#7815

Urinal Mint

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 275

Yea I'm in a computer lab at school. No privileges at all, but I'm hoping to be able to plug in a USB and boot Linux from there. Think that'll work without permissions?

It's curious the school actually uses "VMWare" (I don't know the full extent of this program, I just know that is what the screen displays when you log in). You input your username and password then it takes you to Windows. You have a directory called your "locker" and such you can access from the Windows interface in which I have school papers and such stored.

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03-17-2013 , 07:29 PM

#7816

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,183

Mint 14 looked like it created a bootable dvd that it ran from, you might try that if the lab machines boot from the optical drive. It's also something you could try on your own machine with little risk.

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03-17-2013 , 09:16 PM

#7817

Xhad

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yeah, Mint is the only linux I've used seriously for any length of time and found it ridiculously easy to pick up. And like Ubuntu it's supported bootable DVDs and USBs for awhile (I'm actually typing this from the latest Mint LTS)

This conversation caused me to google a bit and I happened across this: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/home (if I'm reading it right, it just pops up a virtual machine in windows without the need to reboot the computer). And apparently you can even install software on it! http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/help/...is-persistence In fact, I think may try this on a USB HD I'm not doing anything important with...

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03-17-2013 , 10:18 PM

#7818

Xhad

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I took a closer look at the live USB thing. Apparently what it does is create a usb drive that can either boot into a linux distro, or virtualbox it from inside windows, and be running the same VM either way. It also looks like for mint in particular it's configured for Mint 14 MATE so that's the iso I'd use if you want to try that route.

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03-17-2013 , 10:24 PM

#7819

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

Possibly really stupid question:

When working on a project with multiple files, suppose that you have files that are imported to some -main file. (I know this isn't correct Python, so consider it pseudocode).

So, you have at the top:

Code:

import myFile 

## and then you call a function from myFile: 

doSomething(x, y)

or would you prefer:

Code:

import myFile as myFile

## and then you call a function like so: 

myFile.doSomething(x, y)

Consideration for the top item: Suppose that your program cannot share the same function names across the project. I still feel a bit more comfortable having the dot-prefixed file name so that everything is self-documented. Is there any argument either way?

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03-17-2013 , 10:29 PM

#7820

Xhad

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In Python in particular you have a third option:

Code:

from myFile import doSomething

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03-18-2013 , 01:59 AM

#7821

ballin4life

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,121

I don't think there is any difference between these two

Code:

import myFile as myFile

Code:

import myFile

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03-18-2013 , 02:20 AM

#7822

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

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"Thank you for asking a sort of strange question and not blinding us with parenthesis at the same time."

-- not a problem.

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03-18-2013 , 02:48 AM

#7823

gaming_mouse

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Just discovered this site: http://www.overthewire.org

Pretty good way to waste time and learn. Anyone finished these?

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03-18-2013 , 02:57 AM

#7824

clowntable

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daveT

What are these Distros you speak of? Why is there a war?

It's Eurasia's fault really.

Spoiler:

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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse

Just discovered this site: http://www.overthewire.org

Pretty good way to waste time and learn. Anyone finished these?

Nice, will give this a shot later. Just downloaded Backtrack yesterday to fiddle with security stuff in a VM lab heh

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03-18-2013 , 03:56 AM

#7825

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

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Finally started moving my sites off of Noir. There's so many stupid little details that have to get moved about but at least it's working out okay so far. The way page-routing and views work are considerably different in Compojure though.

Would like to get this done before next weekend, add a few pages, and then load (most of) the source to github.

I was quite pleased to see how quick and easy getting Postgres up and running on Linux is.

Need to think of a new project to work on. I'm thinking of building up a marketing app similar to what I had created at my last job except with fictitious data using Clojure with Incanter (its version of Numpy / Pylab). Think it'd be pretty cool to try out that d3.js framework to create all the charts and stuff. If someone has a better idea, hit me with a good one. Preferably something that is less than 5,000 LOC.