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01-03-2015 , 02:14 PM
Yes another thread with me asking for help about a PC

So I'm going to have a budget of around £1500 around £600 of this is going towards 2 27"inch monitors linked here. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-gw2765ht

Now I'm looking to build a system with the left over £900 Ideally I don't really want to use the full amount but I will if I have to.

I want this PC to play poker on and play CSGO with a good FPS, At the moment I get around 90-120 with everything set on there low settings. If I can get 200-300 then I would be happy.

I'll list some features I want,

SDD
I7 processor
16gb RAM
Graphics Card that can run dual monitors at 2560 x 1440
1TB HDD (Space isn't that all important tbh)

I'm going to try and come up with something on PC part picker, or look around for all ready built systems on ebay.

If you can help in anyway or have any questions please let me know. I'm trying to think of the future and making this computer last 3-5 years.

Thanks
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01-03-2015 , 02:28 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-I7-4...item20e5de8ec9

Is this any good? I would have to buy a grpahics card for this though I think
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01-03-2015 , 02:59 PM
Are you comfortable with assembling the parts yourself? I just put together a machine for $850 USD shipped with tax from Newegg/Amazon about a week ago (still waiting for the parts).

With the exchange rate that's £554.56. It's not an i7 but are you sure you really need an i7?

Here's the parts:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Pro4
Memory: G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Sniper Series F3-2400C11D-16GSR
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked 02G-P4-3753-KR
Power Supply: XFX 550W TS Series P1550SXXB9
Storage: Western Digital 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX
Storage #2: Crucial 256GB MX100 CT256MX100SSD1
Case: NZXT Source 220 CA-SO220-01
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Evo

My intentions are to use it as a development/workstation with some gaming on the side. Even with running multiple virtual machines and running software that's reasonable at parallel computing I still don't think the i7 is worth the $150ish price difference unless you really really have specific demands.

Edit:
Also if you're heavy in competitive gaming why are you getting a monitor that caps out at 60hz? I never played CS but does the engine react differently at 200+ FPS?

Last edited by Shoe Lace; 01-03-2015 at 03:10 PM.
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01-03-2015 , 07:38 PM
well I looked into some 144hz monitors and there a little out of my price range, I need/want them to be 27" inch 2560x1440 and I need to have 2 monitors. Could you suggest some monitors?

I don't mind going to a i5 tbh I just felt may as well invest in a i7 if I have the spare money.
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01-03-2015 , 08:13 PM
The i5 will save you around 100 pounds. Let's say the computer is 600, that leaves 900 for your monitor combo with a chance to go under budget.

High end gaming monitors is not my area of expertise. I'm kind of waiting to get a single 60hz 4k HD monitor that's SST capable because I do mostly development and will downscale it for games.

I'd recommend a 120hz monitor if you're really into games tho, you should search around at this place:
http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78

Try to get something with a fast response time, 120hz, IPS panel, even backlighting and low input lag (~15ms or less).
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01-03-2015 , 09:14 PM
Thanks I will check it out
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01-03-2015 , 09:56 PM
I think the best way to get around this is to buy 3 monitors instead of 2, So I would buy 2x27 inch monitors doesnt have to be top of the range and then buy a 3rd monitor probably 24 inch 1980x1080 120hz+ ..... Then I can use the 24inch just for gaming and when I'm not playing I can switch the monitor over back to my 27.

I need to think on it
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01-04-2015 , 12:50 PM
Having to swap monitors seems like a major annoyance. I would just try to find 2 nice monitors that will work for whatever you want.
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01-04-2015 , 01:06 PM
It's not like he'd have to physically swap them. He could make the 24" the primary monitor so games automatically run on it.

However, unless you're a total FPS junkie, image quality should be more important than FPS, especially talking 60FPS+. With VSync turned off, a 60Hz screen doesn't bottleneck input response time noticeably enough to warrant a massive image quality loss.

-> 27"/1440p@60Hz >>> 24"/1080p@120Hz
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01-04-2015 , 01:49 PM
Yeah I hear what you are saying, but trying to find a 2560x1440 27inch monitor with 120hz+ and in my budget is pretty tough, I can always sell and upgrade in the future though. If it does become a pain.
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01-04-2015 , 02:14 PM
Baobhan-Sith, but he wants 2x 27" 1440p monitors -and- the gaming monitor, so I recommended just 2x 1440p monitors that are capable of gaming at a high refresh rate.

UnitedAs1, it won't be tough. Here's the result of a 5 minute search for the best 144hz gaming monitors at the resolution you want. It's the same price as your original monitor or less.

2560x1440 27" 144hz -- £292.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014375

2560x1440 24" 144hz -- £178.76
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236313

I know the 2nd one isn't 27", but I recommend reading into PPI (pixels per inch). That 2nd monitor is wildly popular but both seem to be very very respectable 144hz monitors that do the resolution that you want. Reasonable price too.

So with the £600 on the computer, it comes out to £1200 grand total with the 2x 27"s linked above or £960 with the 2x 24"s.
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01-04-2015 , 02:45 PM
He originally didn't want a 3rd monitor for gaming, it was just meant as a workaround for a higher resresh rate. Now if two 27" 144Hz panels are within his budget that's the way to go iyam.
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01-04-2015 , 02:57 PM
Wow, ignore the 2nd link I posted. Frikken google haha, it presented me a 1080p monitor.
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01-04-2015 , 09:39 PM
If poker and gaming are your two main uses, definitely consider saving money by going with the i5 and 8gb ram, as going above those likely give you zero benefit. You could also scrap the backup drive since you say space isn't important but 1tb should be pretty cheap anyway. Spend the savings on better graphics card and monitors. It looks like there is some of this in above posts so +1 to them.
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01-04-2015 , 11:52 PM
Thanks guys all of you massive help
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01-04-2015 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoe Lace
Baobhan-Sith, but he wants 2x 27" 1440p monitors -and- the gaming monitor, so I recommended just 2x 1440p monitors that are capable of gaming at a high refresh rate.

UnitedAs1, it won't be tough. Here's the result of a 5 minute search for the best 144hz gaming monitors at the resolution you want. It's the same price as your original monitor or less.

2560x1440 27" 144hz -- £292.94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014375

2560x1440 24" 144hz -- £178.76
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236313

I know the 2nd one isn't 27", but I recommend reading into PPI (pixels per inch). That 2nd monitor is wildly popular but both seem to be very very respectable 144hz monitors that do the resolution that you want. Reasonable price too.

So with the £600 on the computer, it comes out to £1200 grand total with the 2x 27"s linked above or £960 with the 2x 24"s.
Are they not both 1920 x 1080 monitors?
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01-05-2015 , 12:54 AM
LOL they are

Apparently 1440p@120Hz+ screens are very rare. The ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q is the only one I could find. There are also some Korean ones but these are basically just overclocked standard panels with tons of compatibility issues.

But again, 60Hz is totally fine imo.
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01-05-2015 , 09:05 AM
That's what you get for a 5 minute Google search for "best 2560x1440 144hz monitor" and me clicking the 2 top links. I'm going with 80% blaming Google, 20% blaming me for not double checking. You're right on the prices tho, I didn't think 1080p monitors would still approach those price, that's nuts. :/

The korean monitors are quite nice at 60hz but I don't know about how they react when OC'd. I did get to see a monoprice 1440p monitor first hand and I was really impressed. The monoprice one uses the same panel as the korean ones which is supposedly just an apple cinema panel.
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01-06-2015 , 04:21 AM
So I copied your system and put it in PC part picker

http://gyazo.com/4ec33099433021d32dac959641098555

I have to add another monitor which brings the price to 1263.92 GBP

I have a few questions, Will I get a decent FPS on counter strike with this? At the moment I get like 80-120 on low settings on CS:GO

Also I don't know much about Video cards nowadays, I just want to ask will I be able to 2x monitors at 2560x1440.

Is there anything else I should take note of?
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01-06-2015 , 09:03 AM
The ram looks really expensive for some reason. Maybe try another model? Also you picked 4x4 instead of 2x8.

What resolution do you plan to play CS:GO at, the native res of the monitor or do you plan to downscale it? Also if your monitor is 60hz then what's the point of having 200-300+ FPS? Does the game's physics engine react differently at that frame rate?
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01-06-2015 , 09:41 AM
Yeah I'll change the RAM in a bit and repost.

I don't know about fps and monitors etc etc I'm just going by what people have been saying, At the moment I when I play CSGO, I set it up 1600x900 and change my computers resolution to 1920x1080.

I don't really get how everything works tbh
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01-06-2015 , 11:22 AM
Ok, before investing a ton of money I would research this stuff more.

If your monitor has a maximum refresh rate of 60hz (most LCDs) and you run a game at 240 FPS then the game is cranking out frames 4x faster than your display can even redraw each frame.

Having a frame rate over 60hz does little good for you unless the game is coded in such a way that you have some type of advantage due to how the physics engine of the game was created. I never played CS:GO so I have no idea.

But back in the day when I played competitive Quake 3, the optimal FPS was 125 because at that point you could achieve maximum velocity when it came to bunny hopping. Also back then we used CRT monitors so hitting 120hz was no problem.

Also gaming at 2560x1440 requires a lot of video card horse power. I don't know if the 750 ti can drive modern games at that resolution. I recommend Googling for benchmarks for various games that you play and look at some cards in your price range. The 750 ti seems to do pretty well in modern games at 1080p but I can't give you a definitive answer on if it'll run 200+ FPS at 1080p in CS:GO. Google google google.
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01-06-2015 , 01:51 PM
Yeah I will do some research on it,

Will this RAM do? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cruc...it102464ba160b

It's a little cheaper, So I don't really know what the draw backs are compared to the other RAM
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