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Old 08-06-2020, 04:09 PM   #26
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

most games still prefer Intel chips and prioritize fewer but faster cores
if you put the 2 Ryzen chips side by side and use auto overclock on both, betcha there will be a <5% difference
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Old 08-06-2020, 08:26 PM   #27
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

Here build this. This is what I built in March. It does everything fine. If you're going to do a lot of database solver work I'd jump to 3900x otherwise 3700x is fine.

That GPU is solid for getting 60 FPS on most games. I can play MGS5 and GTA5 on default settings fine.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/the...d/#view=ZV3TJx

I researched it for a couple months with knowledgeable friends, ordered the parts and paid a friend $60 to assemble it. I watched him do it to so I got an understanding of what is what incase I needed to troubleshoot. I added the HDD and upgraded the CPU cooler myself last month.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:33 PM   #28
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

re clock speed for games, i would entirely take that with a grain of salt. an i3 @ 4ghz is probably about as strong as an i7@2ghz or so.

not sure when that trend of recommendations actually started, but it seemed slightly more useful back when everything was pentiums and celerons

i have a first gen i7 that is still going strong and was my main computer until a year ago, so unless something strange happens they should all last for quite a while
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Old 08-07-2020, 05:23 AM   #29
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

op, so there are scenic games, like Skyrim, where all you ever need is 60 fps and a G-Sync or Freesync compatible monitor to lock the game to 60 fps for a butter smooth experience. if the framerate never dips below 60, you will not notice a single difference, it doesn't matter if in theory you're getting 104 over 100 fps with the higher clocked chip. also, in scenic games, gpu plays a much bigger part than cpu does.

cpu intensive games are the likes of Civilization or Cities Skyline, where the AI needs the processing power to do a thousand things at once. some titles like Assasin's Creed are notoriously poorly optimized and tax cpus more than they should.

and then there are fast paced competitive games like cs:go, where pushing the frame rate as high as it can go will make the game seem a little bit faster and that is an advantage, but a higher refresh rate monitor will make an even bigger difference.

either way, virtually all pro gamers use Intel K series chips, cooled properly and overclocked , they all use 144Hz+ refresh rate monitors and resolution and details turned all the way to lowest as possible, but you're not really shooting for that.

to sum up, the 2700x was perfectly fine for running demanding games and they've improved in that respect and narrowed the gap between them and Intel with the 3700x.
they are still far superior in value when it comes to multi threaded workloads, not only are they faster, but cheaper too, so it's a jack of all trades, solid series of chips. paying the premium for the 3800x is simply not worth it.

if you want to watch a technical video, I'l leave a link, these guys have an amazing youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAGQwWDyURI
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:20 PM   #30
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

Wow...my head is spinning, ha.

I just watched a TON of videos on CPU's alone....soooo much for a noob like me to digest.

Thank you for that recommendation....seems like a great channel for content and to help learn/understand all about this.
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:43 PM   #31
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ye you can browse that channel for info on most of if not all of the parts in your new build. very trustworthy.
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Old 08-18-2020, 04:42 PM   #32
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Re: Help with new desktop for poker/gaming

Okay.

So, after a LOT of reading, watching videos and so forth, I decided to go with a
Ryzen 3700x build. Didn't think I would need a 3900x anytime soon for anything.

Been trying to take this one step at a time.

Motherboard is next and here is where I am so far. Have a couple suggestions. Hard for a newbie like me to see/know the differences in these boards. The first one is the one my friend suggested and after some research, I found the other two.

What are the thoughts here and differences you think? I just need some help figuring out which to pick. Thank you much.


https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-stri...82E16813119111


https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x570...82E16813145155


https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-p...82E16813157882


Also, is it ok to post links to parts that I am considering? Is that what is best? I figured that would be easiest.

Thank you all again.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:36 PM   #33
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Also, is it ok to post links to parts that I am considering? Is that what is best? I figured that would be easiest.
Sure; you're certainly permitted to!
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