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12-20-2012 , 08:47 PM
I'm probably going to take:
http://www.udacity.com/overview/Cour...rseRev/apr2012

It might be a reasonable follow up to 6.00x.

I wish they would make a sequel to cs50x though with the same professor and TAs.
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12-20-2012 , 09:18 PM
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New courses announced. Unfortunately no new computer science courses, but the Harvard justice course us truly interesting and thought provoking.
Quantum Computing isn't CS? Maybe pretty tough one...

The statistics course is probably relevant though. I'm wondering when they'll do something in Algorithms.
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12-20-2012 , 11:19 PM
CS 50x has been great so far. At first the professor really got on my nerves; he is really theatrical and incredibly full of himself. But he's a good teacher so that's all that matters.

I'd be very surprised if complete beginners can pick up everything he discusses. For example, things involving the stack I would think would be way over most beginners' heads. I took an assembler class which is the only reason I could follow what he was talking about. Also that class helped me understand memory in depth; I'm guessing most beginners space out when he starts talking about memory.

It's an interesting class because he covers a lot of intermediate/advanced concepts very quickly. But again, I really like it and am grateful for it.
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12-20-2012 , 11:21 PM
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I'm probably going to take:
http://www.udacity.com/overview/Cour...rseRev/apr2012

It might be a reasonable follow up to 6.00x.

I wish they would make a sequel to cs50x though with the same professor and TAs.
I started that Udacity class just to learn how he thinks/goes about solving problems. You would get the most out of it if you know Python well. I end up taking his general strategies and applying them to Java which is still productive but probably less so.
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12-20-2012 , 11:33 PM
cs50x is more than just the lectures too don't forget. There's a lot of info to be found in the "shorts" and especially both "sections". I would definitely watch both sections regardless of skill level.

They spend way more time going over the lecture material in more depth. He made it really clear that the lectures are more for a quick overview of the material while the other videos are for the full explanations.

I agree with how much they teach you. It's strange though. I don't know about you but after watching the lecture, the shorts, both sections and the problem set walk throughs I really feel like I understand the material and I wouldn't consider myself too smart. I struggle a lot more with 6.00x even though the concepts in cs50x are much more low level.

Yeah the problem solving aspects of that CS212 class is why I want to take it. I'll probably take it the moment 6.00x finishes.
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12-20-2012 , 11:47 PM
I did the first part of that CS212. Not a very good class. Actually, I think most of Udacity, when compared side-by-side to most other classes, is pretty bad.

So, far it's like:

EdX >>> Coursera >>> Udacity

Hopefully, EdX won't bloat itself with content and diminish the quality with poorly done classes.
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12-21-2012 , 10:42 AM
What made you not like it?
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12-21-2012 , 11:59 AM
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@Kington, I think all of the lecture videos are on Youtube.
None of them are.Would somebody share their account with me, if they've registered for 6.00x?
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12-21-2012 , 01:39 PM
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None of them are.Would somebody share their account with me, if they've registered for 6.00x?
I don't think you're going to get many people willing to do that for you. The course is still going on and there's things going on that can be submitted for grades.

It also contains private information like your name / e-mail in your profile and you would also have the ability to change people's passwords by switching the e-mail and resetting the password.

Not only that but some people are taking multiple courses.

All of them are there on Youtube, they are just unlisted. I Googled for "6.00x course videos" and within 5 seconds I was taken to this site.

https://sites.google.com/site/mitx600x/courseware
(aka. a list of videos for the course hosted on Youtube)
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12-21-2012 , 06:06 PM
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What made you not like it?
I think I just don't like the format of the class. Mind that I was already about 1/2 way through SICP at the time and much of what he was saying was repetitive to me, and then there are several areas where I felt he glossed over ideas that he should have hit on harder.

I get this gloss-over feeling from Udacity too often. There was another thread in this forum where someone asked to compare the Udacity crypto class to the Coursera crypto class. The Coursera class was clearly better as it was more in-depth and ensured you had a good theoretical foundation.

There was also a thread a while back where a few posters here were doing the intro to programming course, and I got the impression that the course was messy and out of order.

I'm sure Udacity is fine for the correct type of student: the type who likes things spoon-fed, isn't particularly in depth or challenging, short attention span, wants to stay away from the scary stuff, etc. I don't fault them for targeting that audience, but I don't get the impression you are that person.
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12-21-2012 , 07:28 PM
I like things explained slowly and I guess you could say spoon fed when it comes to learning new things. My thought process is if you can't explain something in a way that makes sense to someone with no prior experience in the field then you're doing it wrong.

I don't like no challenges and glazing over details though. I'm the type of person who needs to know details, probably too many details for my own good. That is partly why I like cs50x so much. They concentrate much more on what's going on at a lower level and this greatly helps me even in languages that don't give you that much control.
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12-22-2012 , 01:18 AM
The way you talk up CS50, I sort of wish I'd taken it, especially for using it as a resource to learn C. It seems like every resource to learn C is either outdated, half-assed, or completely wrong. Really frustrating. I would have looked at CS50 seriously if the description didn't read like Intro to Brogramming.

I enrolled in the Stat course, which I expect to mostly breeze through, yet I'm sure I'll get my ass handed to me somewhere along the line as well. Also signed up with one of the Calc courses on Coursera. They have two of them running concurrently, starting from Jan 7. One is from the ground-up and the other assumes exposure to calculus and also looks like it is more fun and focused on practicums. I'm going for the latter one.
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12-22-2012 , 06:29 AM
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I don't think you're going to get many people willing to do that for you. The course is still going on and there's things going on that can be submitted for grades.

It also contains private information like your name / e-mail in your profile and you would also have the ability to change people's passwords by switching the e-mail and resetting the password.

Not only that but some people are taking multiple courses.

All of them are there on Youtube, they are just unlisted. I Googled for "6.00x course videos" and within 5 seconds I was taken to this site.

https://sites.google.com/site/mitx600x/courseware
(aka. a list of videos for the course hosted on Youtube)
I know in 23 days you're planning to finally get out of your home for the first time in the last 2 years, because you read on an online forum that nothing bad will happen.But think again!What if somebody has been patiently waiting in front of your house for 388 days and just when you leave, he breaks in and stills your whole porn collection?Do you know that there are people who drive motor vehicles under the influence of alcohol,drugs or other opiates?Are you aware that there are 14 year old gangsters on training strolling down the streets that have to prove themselves by shooting a random person.What if that person was you?What if some 34 year old closeted passive aggressive gay nerd has decided to go out and release all the rage?What if he bumps onto you, puts you down with chloroform, tells the people walking by you are his drunk friend, takes you back to his mom's basement, rapes you and cums all over your face.You see some girl down the street, that you're attracted to, but because you're too scared, you can barely have enough balls to ask her what time it is.What if her jealous boyfriend has been stalking her every time she's going out alone in the last 1 month and after your 4 second conversation with her, he follows you and cuts you through the waist with a samurai sword?Be very careful, son, be very very careful!It's a dangerous world out there...

The youtube search returned no results, the google search "edx 6.00x download" returned no results either.Thank you a lot for the link to the videos and do take a chill pill to battle the paranoia.
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12-22-2012 , 09:33 AM
you didn't ask him to leave his house, you asked him to hand you login information. Don't be an ass.
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12-24-2012 , 03:05 PM
Normal person's day on Christmas eve assuming they celebrate Christmas:
"Got some stuff done, visit family or friends for most of the afternoon and evening. If no children, stick around until midnight else leave around 8-9pm."

A cs50x student's Christmas eve:
"Open the edx page to see if your exam was graded. Notice pset4 was released. Play detective by reading bitmaps byte by byte to filter out messages and recover a bunch of lost jpgs from a flash drive that were accidentally deleted. Visit some family or friends for dinner if you have the time."
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12-24-2012 , 08:39 PM
Nice. I'm still on my self-enforced code break. I haven't opened up an editor for about a week now, and it feels pretty good. I only broke my break to fix some CSS on a friend's website.

I've been watching Gilbert Strang's Linear Algebra class. The hype around this class is well-justified. Simply amazing how well he teaches it. He takes a derive it all approach and the formulation is so incredibly logical, it feels like a 6 year old can handle it.
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12-24-2012 , 11:08 PM
What are you working on that will require the knowledge of his course?
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12-25-2012 , 02:41 AM
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What are you working on that will require the knowledge of his course?
Nothing right now, but there seems to be a ton of little insights from it so far. For example -- and I'm probably about to write something embarrassing -- reducing and computing matrices connects pretty well with algorithmic thinking: sets and graphs in particular. It offers a different perspective than brute-force thinking. I'll write a code sample after I am done with my coding break to show what I mean, but the ideas are all pretty neat.

The other thing, though I am not concerned with this yet, is that AI, Machine Learning, PGM, and that 3D graphics class all depend on using matrix calculations and graphing. Each course offers a "relevant overview" of linear algebra, but I think its better to be prepared for what it all means on a deeper level than "Oh, here is Matrix A and Vector x, so I multiply and get b, and...?" These are all subjects I'd like to look into more.

I'm also sure that many algorithms depend, at least in part, on the ability to use linear algebra or at least, having the insights gleaned from the course won't hurt.

Regardless, this stuff is actually kind of fun and very interesting to learn about. Sort of makes me enjoy doing math again. Calculus is pure torture.
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12-27-2012 , 04:30 AM
Site looks pretty cool thanks OP.
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12-28-2012 , 05:30 PM
pset4 for cs50x was really fun. Took me a while but it's finally done and submitted. I think out of every pset for both courses combined this one has been the most satisfying to finish so far.

There's just so many obstacles to overcome but none of them require algebra or being a statistical wizard. It's just straight up general programming goodness.
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01-02-2013 , 10:01 PM
May I ask what the problem set was?

Still waiting for PS10 to come in. I hope it's something fun and then the final will come in, and it's silly to consider that getting a 10% on the final would be good enough to pass the class. Unfortunately, my pride won't let me to do the squeak-by, and I'd really like to get an A for the course.

The final lecture of CS600 on the original talks about "what computer scientists do," and it wouldn't surprise you to learn that Gutag works on simulations with viruses and diseases. I don't know, I still feel lopsided with simulations and stuff, but I think it's because I simply couldn't get into enjoying this stuff.

There is a book I sort of looked at and it may be useful, called "Building Skills in Object-Oriented Design" by Steven Lott. He goes through and creates a bunch of casino game simulations for Roulette, Craps, Blackjack, and maybe some other stuff. I can't review since I haven't done the book.
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01-03-2013 , 07:35 AM
It was pset4, forensics. https://www.cs50.net/psets/

I hope pset10 for 6.00x has nothing to do with stats and simulations.
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01-03-2013 , 08:29 AM
Woah. My mind is blown...
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01-03-2013 , 01:52 PM
If you're bored you should try them in whatever language you're using.

I also discovered something intense about cs50x too. You have to get a 60% or above on every problem set + exams/final or you fail. You can't just ace a bunch of psets and then tank one because your average is good enough.
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01-05-2013 , 03:20 AM
ps10 -- optional -- has been released today. Looks really interesting, like an AI problem.

The final is in about one week. Thank god this class is finally over.

The course info states that the quality over the past few weeks wasn't so good. Is that the impression you guys also get? I didn't really do the first half outside of skating and I didn't watch the lectures, so I really don't know.

Taking the Calc class from coursera starting on the 7th. Looks pretty fun.
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