Guy told me he's actually running Windows 10 on the machine. I found that quite amazing.

lel you asked him

Ryzen 5xxx coming out next week. I see various high end Ryzen 3xxx on the sh market. Also 2xxx for dirt cheap. 2700x for 100€, for example.

If you want a new CPU and don't mind sh, pay attention the weeks to come

2700x for 100$ is a steal for all you postflop hu solver folks

ahem 100€ = 115$

How bad of an idea is it to buy a case with included power supply for budget system without graphics card (so using Ryzen APU or Intel HD)

A system like that won't consume more than 150-200W and won't stress the PSU.

I've seen decent Segotep cases bundled with their own budget psu's, which are actually alright.
otherwise idk, I've had 2 no name psu's blow on me and it's not fun, but that was 10+ years ago, mby they're built ok these days.

I think it can be ok. The questions I'd evaluate are:
What's the real price delta vs. a comparable inexpensive case and standalone 80+ bronze PSU?

What's the financial and emotional cost if this system takes a dump? If someone needs this daily for school/work it's probably worth spending a little more.

Do I have a good backup regime if this PSU kills the rest of the system including drives?

Anybody score a Zen3 yet? I'm thinking on a 5900x build but NewEgg sold out almost instantly.
I bit on the LG OLED sale (check it out if you're in the market, $1400 for CX 55", $1900 for CX 65"), so waiting a bit on a build is probably just fine.

In my life I've never bought the latest hardware. Running 1-2 generations behind is MUCH cheaper. I'm currently watching sh market. Stuff is bound to be dumped by people who move to latest AMD goodies.

Just bought Ryzen 2200g + b450M for 55€ shipped, which will become part of my internet office system at our beach appartement

i dont mind pulling the trigger on new stuff, i just dont do it very often. i hope this 9700 will last many more years, esp with what i use it for. i guess it was fairly new at the time, and was maybe $1650 or so, but def not interesting in selling/buying new every year or two. doubt i would even with tons of extra cash to burn.

that said, i have slightly entertained selling my 55" 4k for a curved one, but cant come near justifying replacing it just for the curve. i have a first gen i7 still going strong as my other "tv", and recently dusted off my ~9 year old series 7 chronos laptop for work

paid $77 for the i7 desktop when it was 1 year old, but that was thanks to a friend who doesnt share my semi lack of impulse

someone local trying to sell a "gaming pc" (re: tons of rgb lights) with:

i5 9600 @ 3.7
16gb ram
single 500gb ssd, m.2
2060

looking to get....

good deal if he throws in a Russian bride

that's a pretty decent sounding device, much better than your typical second-hand stuff that sells on local facebook groups. But yah, the pricing is absurd.

The last weeks I have been frequenting this app/website for second hand stuff in Spain and I have seen ludicrous things. I think the ones I liked best were the stock AMD cooler for Ryzen 7 offered for 70€ and an empty box for a video card being offered for 20€

The trick is to find things that are cheap AND be the first one to seal the deal.
My best catches up to now:

• 6x8GB DDR4 3200 MHz for 90€
• Asus Rog Strix RX 5500XT + Asus 23" FHD monitor for €148
• Corsair RM850X for 50€
• B350M Mortar Arctic MoBo + Ryzen 1600 damaged (fixed in 20 min) + 2x 120mm fans for 68€

My cheap Crucial 2400MHz RAM (2*8GB) without fancy dissipation overclocks to 3200 MHz without breaking sweat, keeping it at 1.2V. It's been running at 100% now for half an hour with 0 errors and remains totally cool.

Why did I pay all that money for 3200MHz RAM.

silicone lottery
tho you prob get errors at 1.2v when stressing

nobody in the world wants a free year of mcafee, right? came with a new computer and I won't use it.

I ran a memory stress test for 30 minutes without errors.

It was in many ways an interesting experience. There are these overclock guides that use AMD DRAM calculator, forcing you to spend significant time to adjust all timings of your RAM. I just went the easy way and increased clock speed from 2400 ==> 2666 ==> 2800 ==> 3000 ==> 3200. and left all of the rest untouched.

When increasing the clock speed, it slightly compensated by auto-increasing the latencies. When I arrived at 3200 MHz, the latency was up to 22. Which happened to be the exact same specification that my Crucual 3200 MHz memory had that I have already sold with a computer. So it seems frequency and latencies have default values baked into the memory. The only difference is that if you buy 3200MHz RAM it is guaranteed to work, while if you buy 2400MHz you need luck in the silicon lottery.

I'm out of this malware fighting world for some time, but McAfee would be an insta uninstall for me

We use Bitdefender free AV on the family computer (my personal laptop runs Linux and no AV). You install, you create an account and you never get nagged to buy some premium version.

Yeah, I use bitdefender free as well, pretty sure because you advised it years ago when you helped me with a virus I had. Luckily the McAfee is not installed, just a code, so I don't have to fight through the bs of uninstalling it and every little piece of **** that goes with it.

I hear Windows Defender is pretty sufficient these days
https everywhere addon so you don't end up on shady sites, duckduckgo browser for more privacy, TOR + duck for even more but slow

oh man, i totally read that as McCafe and was super confused as to what comp would come with free coffee

i just use defender now, microsoft security essentials before, both seem more than enough. the good old days of viruses seem to be gone, altho it was always fun trying to snipe the right files out in safe mode.

very random aside, but my uncle is a very very successful entrepreneur and maybe a year ago got hit with a scam, we'll steal your files if you dont pay us $x in bitcoin. he actually paid i guess instead of just trying to have it deleted, but i was talking to my sister about this recently and she pointed out how strange of an "attack" it is.

its a very small subset of computer users who have, say, $4k to spend on a scam to begin with, and a VERY VERY small subset who have the ability to purchase bitcoin and send it. seems you should be going after 100k+ targets or start taking paypal

re: memory oc, its been a WHILE since i even dabbled in it, ddr2 days, but keeping timings down with speed up was definitely the goal. never fried a stick but i was always weary of upping volts much, and i was already running my cpu @4ghz from 2.5 so i didnt bother pushing much. i may build my next comp with the plan of overclocking, but unless i actually find something to use more power for, idk.. i already never come close to using the stock potential of mine now

Paypal seems a bad idea if you are stealing money. Way too traceable.

Memory overclock for those Ryzen APU is really beneficial. For systems with a dedicated graphics card it has much less impact.

I agree that viruses are much less problematic now than they were 10y ago. Windows security has taken a leap with 64-bit and driver signing and whatnot.

As Gabe says, Paypal is not really an option for criminals.

Also, you'd be surprised how many people quickly gain an ability to pay in Bitcoin if their data is at risk.

More importantly, this is a volume business for the malware operators. There are various groups, who approach it in different ways. Some of them even run fully staffed help lines to give their "customers" support and ensure that they trust they'll get their data back if they pay. Of course, with some that happens, but with others it's a complete sham.

The best way to protect against ransomware is still to ensure that you have good (and regular) backups. That way at least you can get back up and running with minimal disruption. Doesn't mitigate the risk of your data being leaked but that tends to happen more if they think you're a big corporation with lots of money or (anecdotally) if there is something obviously juicy in the data.

I understand that the fraudsters have very effective on-boarding procedures for new fraud victims.