So with this adapter can i get a 4k tv instead of FHD and UHD?
Thanks guys!

yep 4k tv
43" is about as big as I'd go for use on a regular desk, otherwise you'l be turning your head left and right to see stuff

Would this work? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseus-Mini...r=611919629927

I think you need to use an active adapter, like headtrauma linked

I am converting a very old computer into a current system on a budget. It will be a Ryzen APU (2200g/2400g/3200g or 3400g) on B450M-A Pro Max MB (will work on my old 420W psu) w/o discreet GPU

I am having a dilemma with memory though. I can keep on lowballing and buy a 2400MHz DDR 4GB to match the one I have, for 8GB dual channel (15€). Or I can dish out 40€ more (55€) and buy 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHZ second hand (HyperX Predator).

How future proof is the extra investment into 2x8GB 3200 MHz DDR4?

the igpu on the Gs likes fast ram
for just cpu 2400 is fine

I'm going to be getting a desktop computer soon for wfh stuff. No gaming. Probably not much video watching. Safe to say I'm better off just buying a stock machine rather than attempting to build my own?

well you don't HAVE to build your own, it just tends to be cheaper, better longevity down the line due to upgrade options and some people enjoy the process.

everything is well documented these days, got tons of youtube videos and forums to troubleshoot, not to mention it's way easier than it used to be, to the point where it's almost like playing with lego's and plugging it in a couple of hours later.

one benefit with pre-builts is system wide warranty, i.e. smth goes bad, you send the whole pc over for repairs (within the warranty period), whereas you'd have to know which part was bad if you built it yourself. That sometimes involves having access to a 2nd machine and swapping parts between them until you narrow down the culprit. Components don't usually go bad in 2-3 years, but it's nice to have the peace of mind.

for the time being, I suggest you check the used market for pre-built pcs or wait a couple of months for black friday if you're not in a hurry and plan on buying new

Oh yeah, I didn't even consider waiting for Black Friday. I'm not in any kind of hurry, my laptop will suffice in the meantime. I've always wanted to build my own, strictly for the enjoyment of it, but I think maybe I'll just wait.

i started building mine and a couple friends back when core2duo/quad came out and even then it was quite easy. first time doing so having a pretty good idea (its VERY simple) took about an hour. the biggest things to be weary of during the process are being gentle; everything fits in very smoothly and force usually means you'll be breaking something (except ram, kinda need to push for the click), and cable management; MUCH easier to do it right, once, than realize you've built a spider web at the end.

for my most recent comp i went prebuilt tho. i think the value of building your own has gone down substantially from before. not to say there isnt some, but i dont think its like before where you were looking at 20+% markup on systems.

if you do go pre built, be VERY careful with the "upgrade" options. ive seen almost every vendor offer 16gb ram kits from 8gb default for MORE money than it'd cost to buy the ram yourself and throw away the 8gb stick it comes with. less of an issue if you are going all budget or all high end pieces, but if you'd like to mix and match i'd build your own

I bought a prebuilt system 2-3 ago and never again. They are done minimalistic. There was no room for upgrades because no space and lol 180W psu. If I want something prebuilt, I'll buy a laptop.

I'm currently upgrading an 8-year old system and trying to do this as cheap as possible, which brings a new dimension of enjoyment. My crap system unable to run win7 properly will become a pretty decent Ryzen system that can run win10 and standard e-sports games and it will have an upgrade cost of about 150€

to be fair, there are small form factors pre-builts from big names like Dell/HP/Acer/Lenovo and these tend to use proprietary motherboards, psus and have ram compatibility issues, because they will lock the bios to only accept their ram sticks so they have control over almost every serviceable part in the future. Also no dedicated or replacement gpu options because they design the case in such a way that you can't fit almost any modern gpu in there. These are by far the worst computers you can buy, they screw you every step down the road when you need servicing or upgrading. Another reason why they're so cheap. Pay less now, more down the road.

Then there are "gaming" pre-builts from the same big names that feature normal mid ATX cases and most parts off the shelf, those should be fine, can work on them yourself.

And finally pre-builts from specialized custom pc companies like Origin, Cyberpower, ibuypower so on and these are perfectly fine, transparent with components they use and sometimes these don't even have a big mark up. I've bought a pre-built a couple of years ago from a local reputable pc shop and their mark up was less than 5%. It just happened to have the exact configuration I needed and at that point it makes a lot of sense.

What happened with plug and play RAM?

I bought a B450M motherboard and Ryzen 3200g and finding a RAM that is compatible is a PITA. The mobo manufacturer has a list of compatible RAMs but I'm quite certain that list is severely outdated. So we now have to find RAMs (looking for 3200MHz) that is on the shortlist or plug and pray.

I thought we had this solved.

from what I've seen and heard, Corsair Vengeance LPX and Kingston Hyperx Fury work on everything these days
also, don't sweat it, ram compatibility was a serious issue on Ryzen 1st gens, than 2nd gen fixed most of them and now 3rd gen I imagine it's better than ever
not to mention, they improve compatibility with each bios update but that list doesn't get updated. either way, it's only a lit of what they've actually tested, not smth definitive by any means

btw Corsair LPX is low profile and that helps with clearance on some tower coolers

Yup, I consulted the Corsair site and when I entered my mobo, they provided a list of RAMs and the Vengeance LPX was on the list. I have found an unopened 2x8GB kit @ 3200MHz for 50€ (75€ on Amazon). Seems a good investment.

Sometimes, being on a limited budget has its charm.

I had good fun upgrading my secondary PC for as cheap as possible. It was a 7 year old system with Q8300 quad core that was on Linux, because it couldn't properly run WIN7.

I bought:

• 60€ shipped Ryzen 3200g second hand
• 39€ shipped MSI B450M A Pro Max NEW (amazon price 91€)
• 50€ shipped Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB @ 3200 MHz NEW (Amazon 75€)
• 36€ shipped HP EX900 250GB m.2 NVME SSD NEW (Amazon 66€)

I could re-use case, 750GB HD and my old psu, which didn't have PCIE connectors nor a 8-pin CPU connector, but this mobo has a 4-pin (it's not for overclocking)

Basically I turned an outdated PC into a 400-500€ PC with medium gaming capabilities for a mere 185€

Also I am ready for the future, because when my primary system, (i7-7700 with RX 580) is getting outdated, I can update this system with psu, cpu and gpu (keeping mobo, RAM and maybe SSD) and kick ass for a decent amount of time again.

wp

The old stuff I took from my computer:
P5QL/EPU mobo lga755 slot
Q8300 CPU
4*2gb DDR2 800mhz
EN9800GT GPU 1GB pcie 2.0

What do I do with this old crap. I put it for sale on a 2nd hand website and I would have sold it for literally anything. I started at 40€ with the idea to go down rapidly if nobody would react. I sold it within 24h for that price. WTF? Did I just get lucky or is old hardware still worth that much?

uhm I know some people build retro Windows XP gaming machines for compatibility with older titles

Maybe a niche use for DDR2?

That's too much RAM for an XP 32 bit machine (you'd only get access to 3GB with 1GB videocard taking the rest of the 4GB memory address space).

Also there's the contingent of people anywhere that will jump on anything that's "a deal" whether its worth the effort of hauling home or not.

could also make most of a htpc with it

welp it's nice when 2nd hand market is doing well, less e-waste

It sounds great.

He wanted mainly the mobo. I was wondering about those 8GB as well. I ran Linux on this machine, I suppose it was 64-bit.

wonder what the plan was; thats a fairly decent cpu for that board already, anything "better" wont be by much.

they did have 64 bit xp, not sure if that really limits the compatibility with stuff, can always just use emulators anyway. idk if thats considered cheating or not