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Old 08-12-2020, 12:56 PM   #76
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Re: All the cool kids (NC thread 0.0.2a)

Yes, they dropped HT for most i7 that generation. I think it was a combination of creating market differentiation to squeeze an i9 SKU into the 115x socket lineup and speculative execution vulnerability mitigations for hyper-threading. i7 9700 looks to be the bang/buck sweet spot with that setup.

If you want to go nutso on CPU cores, maybe take a look at what you could piece a first gen ThreadRipper system together for. Jumping up to 16 or 32 cores would definitely boost render speed.

How large are your video projects? Is that 500GB SSD large enough?
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Old 08-12-2020, 05:56 PM   #77
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Oh yes, that drive is plenty big enough, my videos are all for web (max 1080p is fine) and "authentic" videos of me just speaking to camera for between (mostly) 2 and 30 minutes.
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:22 AM   #78
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somebody linked this to me https://www.amazon.com/HP-Workstatio..._t1_B07CWWYS6Q

looks good value for 32 threads and 96 gigs
scores 2k vs 9700's 1.5k in cinebench r15

if you must have a new toy :P

I'd drop in a 9700K tho, it's only 40$ more than the non K on amazon
no HT but at least you can get an extra 10-15% out of it if you OC
and a decent cooler if you don't have one
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Old 08-13-2020, 05:42 PM   #79
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I'm increasingly meh on used workstations for most uses. That thing is a beast, but it launched in 2012. Getting Win10 (and really anything past Win7) to install properly on the Z420's (smaller cousin to the Z620) bastard onboard controller was a pain when we had lots of those at work. If you need a semi-disposable render box/solver box it can work, but its big, loud and will be picky about parts. Building a beefier main machine is better for most people most of the time.
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:00 PM   #80
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@Josem Would you consider selling your Intel proc/board and RAM and replacing with Ryzen? That jumps you from a Cinebench15 multicore score of 1500 with the 9700, to 3160. Your current i3 8350k scores 684 on the same benchmark, as a point of reference.

Total cost for proposed overhaul below is 788 GBP minus whatever you can sell your existing CPU/board/ram combo for. Board plus cpu on US ebay seems to run around $200-250ish(USD) so with RAM $300ish isn't out of the question.

Ryzen 3900x (12c24t) for 424
Amazon UK 3900x
Asus x570 motherboard for 184
Asus Mobo
2x16GB DDR4 3200 RAM for 120
https://www.amazon.co.uk/CORSAIR-VEN...7355616&sr=8-1
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:40 AM   #81
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^ it's true, the 3900x is such a good value chip for this sort of workloads and decent quality boards are not that expensive either.

Josem, I'm guessing you are running 3 x 8gig sticks, dual channel only works on even number channels and Ryzen really likes this feature, a lot more than Intel does. if you got a 16 and a 8, get yourself a 2nd 16gig stick, same model number or matching freq and timings and all, as far as I'm aware, high freq doesn't improve performance much, at least it didn't on my 2700x, as long as it's 2666Mhz+, lower and there's a noticeable dip in cpu performance.

if you don't still have the cooler brackets for AM4 in a box somewhere or the cooling unit itself doesn't come with a multi-platform bracket, you'l have to get an adapter, can usually can screw it on top of the LGA1151 one.
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:11 AM   #82
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actually 3900x comes with the same blower the 3700x has and I guess it does the job (barely), tho it's loud and the chip won't clock as high at it would with a proper tower or water cooler, the one you already have is likely better.

so ye, if you're willing to sell and switch platforms, I believe you're getting better value this way. used Intel chips still go for a pretty penny, even if you have to sell the whole system and build a new one, it might be worth it.
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:08 PM   #83
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Have any of you purchased monitor arms recently? I'm getting a new sit/stand ergo desk for work from home and it feels like the right time to move my monitors to arms. I'm probably going to be using 2x27" 16:9 and a 34" 21:9, but I have a third 27" I can get in the mix if there's space and it feels useful or cool. Desk will be 30"x60". I want to buy something quality but not drop the $1k that the monitor mount I had in office at my last job would cost (that thing was sweet, though).
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Old 08-14-2020, 03:49 PM   #84
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Have any of you purchased monitor arms recently? I'm getting a new sit/stand ergo desk for work from home and it feels like the right time to move my monitors to arms. I'm probably going to be using 2x27" 16:9 and a 34" 21:9, but I have a third 27" I can get in the mix if there's space and it feels useful or cool. Desk will be 30"x60". I want to buy something quality but not drop the $1k that the monitor mount I had in office at my last job would cost (that thing was sweet, though).
VIVO has a pretty decent bang for buck ratio. Not sure if they make one that meets your exact specs, but might be worth checking out. I recall seeing one of their quad models that supports 17 - 32" monitors.

I bought a single pneumatic for my 34" earlier this year for about $80 that is holding up well.
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Old 08-16-2020, 05:12 PM   #85
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Have any of you purchased monitor arms recently? I'm getting a new sit/stand ergo desk for work from home and it feels like the right time to move my monitors to arms. I'm probably going to be using 2x27" 16:9 and a 34" 21:9, but I have a third 27" I can get in the mix if there's space and it feels useful or cool. Desk will be 30"x60". I want to buy something quality but not drop the $1k that the monitor mount I had in office at my last job would cost (that thing was sweet, though).
I have ~10 year old monitor arms which are all hard (not height flexible) and have just paid ~20 for a single extra Amazon monitor arm.

This video was compelling to me:



I came across it through here: https://www.troyhunt.com/building-th...-office-again/
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Old 08-16-2020, 05:48 PM   #86
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Thanks, Josem. I'll give that a watch/read.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:00 PM   #87
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Ergo desk and chair arrived today. Shopping for a monitor arm/s, cable management goodies and a standing mat. I suspect I'm always going to have a bit of a rat's nest of cables because I'm trying to cram so much into one desk space but I can get it looking much better than this.

@Josem, Thanks again for the link to that blog and the monitor arm video. I read through it for the second time today and ended up listening to the embedded video....good stuff.
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Old 08-26-2020, 10:11 AM   #88
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speaker set looks delicious
is that a Filco keeb?
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Old 08-26-2020, 11:59 AM   #89
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Speakers are Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2s, I am quite fond of them
Just off camera is a chonky Schiit Vidar power amp. The Elacs sounded pretty good being driven by an old AV receiver, but they love power and moving to a standalone amp opened up the sound. I decided awhile back that I spend more time listening to my office setup than my home theater setup, so that's where I should put the money/effort.

Keyboard is a CMStorm I've had for quite awhile now. The spacebar is going a bit wonky and I've had to steal a few keycaps from another keyboard, but I still like it a lot. Not sure what I'll get if the spacebar or something else fully gives up.
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Old 08-26-2020, 01:31 PM   #90
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sounds like one of the stabilizers might be broken or loosened up. you can fix it by propping it up. either jam a little smth on one side, piece of toothpick if it's outright broken or smth softer if it's just loose like cardboard or sponge/foam.

if you got some silicone grease around the house, try to get a bit on the end of the stab wire, I'l put a video below. careful it's not conductive cause the pcb is right under and there's a chance it shorts with the metal rod in the stab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7gRnpe7oyw

just wasted these past couple of days nerding over keyboards, put an oder for this yesterday, can't wait to get my hands on it. https://candykeys.com/product/leopold-fc900pd-blue-grey

someday I'l get into serious audio too, for now just recently got a pair of Creative Aurvana Live headphones and am a really impressed with sound for the money and they're really light and comfy too, major upgrade from the old beaten pair of on ear Sennheiser's
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Old 09-04-2020, 12:47 AM   #91
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30xx cards look pretty sweet, if nvidias numbers are anywhere near reality it seems like a huge jump in cost/performance. tempted to try to upgrade but i barely use my 2070 as is
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haven't seen one of these Hitler reacts videos in a good while

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Old 09-04-2020, 04:22 AM   #93
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30xx cards look pretty sweet, if nvidias numbers are anywhere near reality it seems like a huge jump in cost/performance. tempted to try to upgrade but i barely use my 2070 as is
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:44 PM   #94
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I ordered a bunch of desk setup stuff.
I went fairly cheap on monitor arms, got this guy and a single arm version of the same. They're decent but allow a little jiggle I bump the desk. I'll probably roll with these for a few years.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081CV8GB7

I also ordered stuff to build a DIY TrueNASCore setup.
https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/truenas-core-features/

Debating on doing a build thread. I started with an HP Z230 as a donor carcass as a cheap way to get an ECC supporting platform. Going to recase into a Fractal Node 804 and use the 8x4TB drives I've accumulated over the past few years (considered just going with 2x16TB drives mirrored, but the drive cost alone is more than I have in this NAS so far).
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Old 09-10-2020, 04:59 AM   #95
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I have an X1 Carbon 4th gen and wanting to get a 43" 4k TV to expand. This laptop has a mini displayport and an hdmi 2.0 with a 2560x1440 max res. and 16gb ram. I have selected a few tvs but wanted to know your opinion before purchasing. 1. Samsung UE43TU8002KXXH, 2. Samsung UE43RU7102KXXH and a couple on Sony that are in the link below.

I live in central europe and this place has a good selection of 43" 4k tvs, link below is a list of them arranged price low to high. Would you recommend anything else form this list? (90,000 HUF is almost equal to $300 USD, also the page linked below can be translated with google): https://euronics.hu/termekek/tv-audi...&pageChange=on

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Old 09-10-2020, 05:41 AM   #96
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2560 x 1440 is 2k, not 4k

when you say 4th gen, that's the laptop model's generation, not the cpu's right? i.e. do you have something like an i5-6200u ?

either way, hdmi output is likely 1.4, not 2 and that's not capable of 4k 60Hz. display port will do that, but I've yet to see a 4k tv with display port connectivity

regardless, when shopping for a 4k tv to use as a monitor, you need it to feature something called 4:4:4 chroma subsampling, otherwise small text will be fuzzy. when you start using it with your pc, go to tv's menu, put it on pc mode and disable all "smart" image enhancements, like dynamic contrast, noise reduction, all those bells and whistles.
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Right. The processor is intel core i7 6600U @2.60GHz.
Also, I will be using this TV to watch movies and cable TV as well.

Below 4k is UHD and FHD, what's your recommendation?
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Old 09-10-2020, 09:13 AM   #98
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you'l need to either get a FHD tv or a 4k monitor
4k tv will not work at 4k 60hz on your Thinkpad because it lacks hdmi 2.0 support. you're only going to get 30hz which is an awful experience, avoid like the plague.
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:30 AM   #99
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You can get a mini DP to HDMI 2.0 adapter cable.
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-...s%2C212&sr=1-8
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omg it completely slipped my mind those existed
and I have one of them at home and use it to connect a 1080p tv to an old small form factor pc
thanks HT

btw these only work that 1 way, DP input to HDMI output
and you need an HDMI 2.0 speed rated cable (18gbpsc)

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