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Old 03-17-2016, 11:51 AM   #26
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

It's ok Trolley we're pretty sympathetic and experienced on the highly intelligent but don't fall into a very narrow view of acceptable social skills types. You may have forgotten where you were for a moment.

Luke is quite capable of reading, thinking and comprehending. He's not some idiot who's going to just do what he's told so we don't have to be patronizing.
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Old 03-17-2016, 11:58 AM   #27
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It's ok Trolley we're pretty sympathetic and experienced on the highly intelligent but don't fall into a very narrow view of acceptable social skills types.
No it's not okay. OP is getting terrible life advice ITT from people with dubious language skills and someone should let him know there are better places to go for help.
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Old 03-17-2016, 12:19 PM   #28
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Learn a skill involved in providing a service or producing a product. Go to work and make a living while learning the business. Develop methods, procedures, and organization to perfect the business model. When ready, go out on your own on a small scale and outcompete everybody else. Expand or franchise, sell out and retire rich.


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Old 03-17-2016, 12:19 PM   #29
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No it's not okay. OP is getting terrible life advice ITT from people with dubious language skills and someone should let him know there are better places to go for help.
Your poor, unsupported opinions of people are rejected and truly belongs elsewhere.

The OP asks a great question. Your answer is to create fiction about people and act superior. Talk about dubious.


Now, on to more answers about how statistics can skew life decisions and perspectives on life situations,.
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Old 03-17-2016, 12:30 PM   #30
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No it's not okay. OP is getting terrible life advice ITT from people with dubious language skills and someone should let him know there are better places to go for help.
As he has asked here you should do him the credit of assuming he want's to hear what people here have to say.

Whatever your opinion. He is not an idiot and is fully aware there are other places to seek advice.
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Old 03-17-2016, 12:31 PM   #31
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my grammar has always sucked I was let down by my school in that area when I was younger and never rectified it. long story.
Then you know you have at least one area that you can focus on to improve your chances.

As for the rest, there's something about how you present yourself that makes the phrase "dysfunctional perspective on life" come to mind as the descriptor. At the root of everything you're saying, I can't find a coherent thread of thought that ties it all together.

On the one hand, you're trying for the "1%" in about five or six different fields, but on the other hand, you're searching for "financial security" which does NOT require one to be in the 1%. When you say you're 31, you're reminding me of the so-called "quarter-life crisis" that is sometimes used to describe people in their 20s and 30s who haven't figured it out (which is at least 90% of people in the 20s and 30s).

I agree with Trolly in the sense that you're not going to figure it out by asking random internet people on a poker forum. Mostly, you just need to get out there and start doing stuff. And here are two anecdotes to consider:

There are people who walk away from "financial security" because they don't find their work sufficiently fulfilling. So you may think you're after financial security, only to find that when you have it that it doesn't do what you thought it would do.

Also, 99% of people aren't in the top 1%. But there are lots of people in the 99% that are doing just fine.
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Old 03-17-2016, 12:38 PM   #32
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I say you don't give up on something or someone you love because of some number. I'm facing a 1% chance that someone close to me has incurable cancer. That didn't stop the worry, the anxiety, the doubt. 90% chance of no cancer doesn't cut it either.

It's only the 110% chance we are going to stand and fight that does it. **** the statistics. It's all profit, fun, and games when it's gambling or research, but real life isn't so simple and neat.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:01 PM   #33
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As he has asked here you should do him the credit of assuming he want's to hear what people here have to say.

Whatever your opinion. He is not an idiot and is fully aware there are other places to seek advice.
You literally told him it's no big deal to have spelling errors on his resume. It's either deliberate trolling or extremely ****ty advice. If SMP is just going to be a forum where people speak gibberish back and forth and try to be funny, then someone should give fair warning to the people who come in with genuine questions.

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Old 03-17-2016, 01:07 PM   #34
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Well literally about grammar not spelling but I do him the credit of being able to understand the point and the jokey manner.

It's well worth considering that he is not well served by working for someone who cares overly strongly about grammar. Applying for jobs is a two way filter.

edit: Think about it like dating - if he's just desperate to get laid then play games but if he wants meaningful relationship then spruce up a bit but be himself.

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Old 03-17-2016, 01:08 PM   #35
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You literally told him it's no big deal to have spelling errors on his resume. It's either deliberate trolling or extremely ****ty advice.
Wow, you don't even get sarcasm. Or even the chance that real people are not all so shallow and nitty.

What you suggest is sacrificing talent, passion, skill, and ability because of some arbitrary superficiality. How many decent people should we discard because they don't meet that impossible standard of uniformity?

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Old 03-17-2016, 01:10 PM   #36
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hi few things firstly I am 31 someone said my age is important well I guess it is if i want to go for professional sports but i know that ship has sailed.

my IQ was tested officially but about the 70 to 144 thing you have to note my autism in this case. big moves in IQ is a known phenomenon in autism in fact there is numerous psychological research looking into it. I dont want to derail this topic to much as this is a massive topic i should make another separate thread on but its just finding the time. It is very likely that the autistic individuals have that high potential its just they need the right environment to release it. well not just highly probable it is the case. In fact, research has shown that if you carry the autistic gene without having autism there is a high probability that your significantly above average intelligence.
No employer will care what your IQ is. You shouldn't care what it is.

No employer will custom design an environment for you to thrive in.

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my grammar has always sucked I was let down by my school in that area when I was younger and never rectified it. long story.
Take a class.

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I am well aware that if you allow long enough with sensible investments you can be very wealthy indeed. few points on that though.

firstly yes but I would like to be financially secure before i am 50. hopefully before 40.

secondly past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future performance, I think the world has a lot of economic problems potentially facing the worst economic crash in history. so I am skeptical whether this works long term. However the constant fear and manipulation of global markets does offer a lot of potential for swing trading. I absolutely believe this will make a few billionaires in the mean time, whether i can be one is another question all together.
None of that seems relevant. If you are a trader with some sort of actual edge, it doesn't matter whether markets go up and down.

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I continue to study it and am making a profit, but ive been down and up on money at several points so sample size not big enough etc.
You need to learn how to backtest your ideas.

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running your own business has a higher rate of success but a much larger risk. if your business goes under you can lose everything i know limited companies and all but banks will often ask you to secure your house against it or other things etc, plus your working full time on this and if you go broke your bust. I am sure there are some business models you can just do on the side but generally its a full time job usually.
How is that relevant to trading?

Err, rather, are you just making a list of things where some people are successful? That is backwards. Starting a business to be successful is aiming for disaster. You start a business doing something you are really obsessed with and success comes from that.

If you aren't obsessed with anything, get a job.

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trading and poker can be done part time ish. I don't think I will ever do well working for anyone else.
If you start a business, all of your customers are your bosses.

If you want to be in the top 1% of trading or poker (or anything), "part-time" shouldn't even be in your vocabulary. Since it is in your vocabulary, it simply isn't going to happen.

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If I am truly honest with myself when I played basketball sure i tried on the court, but I never put in the hours of practice away from the court. if you look at Michael Kobe or curry they all put in massive effort. most people i played basketball with never trained away from the court either maybe this is a big thing its only a small % of people that ever truly give it there best. the majority just show up. If I had worked my hardest would I have made the NBA probably not I mean I am from the UK, you improve by been challenged and the thing is the standard around me was never high enough to provide the training environment. Plus I know I have very good genes for intelligence, but this is not necessarily the case for athletic prowess.
If you haven't shown a propensity for obsessively putting in tons of time and effort into things, there isn't any point in even considering being in the 1% of anything.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:18 PM   #37
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Well literally about grammar not spelling but I do him the credit of being able to understand the point and the jokey manner.

It's well worth considering that he is not well served by working for someone who cares overly strongly about grammar. Applying for jobs is a two way filter.
Someone who doesn't put the necessary effort into their resume/CV will be seen as someone who won't put much effort into their job.

"Ah, well, I am going to go to the interview unwashed because any sensible employer will not care about that sort of thing."
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:21 PM   #38
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Well literally about grammar not spelling but I do him the credit of being able to understand the point and the jokey manner.

It's well worth considering that he is not well served by working for someone who cares overly strongly about grammar. Applying for jobs is a two way filter.

edit: Think about it like dating - if he's just desperate to get laid then play games but if he wants meaningful relationship then spruce up a bit but be himself.
OK the first paragraph you say it's a joke and then second para you actually defend it as serious advice. It's terrible either way, but you should at least pick one or the other.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:24 PM   #39
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OK the first paragraph you say it's a joke and then second para you actually defend it as serious advice. It's terrible either way, but you should at least pick one or the other.
Jokey manner Trolley.

There's a serious point, have a think about it.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:27 PM   #40
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Someone who doesn't put the necessary effort into their resume/CV will be seen as someone who won't put much effort into their job.
By some employers. Others who also don't think grammar or CVs is worth being overly concerned about will be less overly concerned about they. Biasing you'reself towards those is a good thing if your rubbish of grammar.

btw a principle we used very effectively in sales. There can be a big upside to not behaving in the same fake manner that others insist is the right way.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:33 PM   #41
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The first mistake was made by whoever assumed the OP has the same level of care for his grammar on resumes as he does on forum posts. So I agree with Spank.

But it's evident the OP just wants to get rich by any means necessary and isn't passionate about much of anything, apart from poker, as I pointed out on page 1. And Brian some posts above.

Not being passionate about something isn't bad I should add. It usually means you just haven't found a passion yet.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:37 PM   #42
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People aren't machines to be programmed into uniformity and taking a class or begging to try harder is not a guarantee of anything.

Treating people like individuals, as independent thinkers and doers, that's what's real.


What is really on point is that it is easy to understand a person regardless of their grammar, yet here we still see the offering of barriers to understanding and success anyway.

Maybe the grammar nits need to take some classes and try harder...
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:45 PM   #43
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The grammar and spelling nits shouldn't be looked down upon too much but I'd rather not work for one and they would rather not employ someone like me so it's win-win as long as neither of us pretends too much.
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LOL at everyone still discussing the grammar thing.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:53 PM   #45
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Grammar is important. Hygiene is important. What difference does it make how you dress? It's an expression of how willing you are to conform, I suppose.
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Grammar is important. Hygiene is important. What difference does it make how you dress?
It shows that you have a basic degree of competency and you actually give a **** about getting the job. Mostly the same reasons you spell-check your resume and make sure you've bathed before the interview.
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Grammar is important. Hygiene is important. What difference does it make how you dress? It's an expression of how willing you are to conform, I suppose.
Many people care far less than conformists like Trolley imagine and many appreciate non-conformists and are more likely to run work environments based on merit.

Certainly if you don't like merit based environments or are pretty average anyway then stuff like dress and grammar should be your priorities.
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Mostly the same reasons you spell-check your resume and make sure you've bathed before the interview.
It isn't the same reasons at all. Don't worry about it.
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Certainly if you don't like merit based environments or are pretty average anyway then stuff like dress and grammar should be your priorities.
Grammar is important for communication.
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Grammar is important. Hygiene is important. What difference does it make how you dress? It's an expression of how willing you are to conform, I suppose.
Is it the same thing though? That's a false equivalency. The rules for hygiene are far simpler than the rules of grammar.

And yet, we still have barriers to understanding and success being place based upon a demand not for conformity- but absolute, unrealistic, unreasonable uniformity.

We can conform just fine around trying to understand each other- that's not only more reasonable and realistic, it sure sounds easier than trying amateur operant conditioning.
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