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Old 03-16-2016, 04:38 AM   #1
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is it worth going for less then 1%

well actually in many cases its a lot lower then 1% its just I have heard the same idea in relation to so many topics.

I always wanted to succeed in life who does not. I had ambitions of wealth and that has not happened yet although its going alright recently I am hardly a millionaire.

when I was much younger I wanted and thought I would be a professional basketball player in the NBA.

the fact that I could not shoot seemed irrelevant at the time. but I was told that very few basketball players make it. apparently from recent googling its something like 0.03%.

I wanted to make it as a professional lyricist (song writer) again I was told very few song writers make it big. a tiny %.

I wanted to make it as a professional poker player and this time I was told 2% so give up well 2% is way better then what I usually hear.

i wanted to learn to code and write my own website/app and then I am told you got it very few % make it big.

i looked at trading and I am told the same thing.

and when looking at setting up my own business I am also told the same stuff.

it seems anything you want to target which could be considered making it in life its a very few % who make it.

my older brother says going for anything like this is like playing roullette with your life your gambling that your going to be that very small %.

so if less then 1% make it should I just give up and never try.

well heres the thing when I go down the casino to play poker the majority of the players there are just there for a game, sure too many think they are going to go pro. However hardly any put in a huge amount of effort, in fact I am pretty sure the majority have not even studied the game away from play.

when I played basketball how many of them would actually practice there shot for hours a day?

the truth is in most fields most people dont really try, sure they may give it there best on the day who doesnt? but its easy to put your best in when your sitting at the table or running around on the court, putting in the hours shooting hoops or reading charts away from the game is another thing altogether that very few do.

so are we all just playing a lottery when we go for the big time or is it that those who exert themselves are the ones that usually make it.

is it worth going for a dream or should we give up, because few make it. I guess if more then 10% made it, it would not be making it big so to speak.

is it an in born talent you have to have or simply hard work.?

if i go for trading poker or websites I am not necessarily looking to be warren buffet mark zuckerberg or phil ivey. I just want to achieve financial security hey if i end up been the best thats great, but I am happy with financial security.

is it bad gambling to go for a dream?
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:19 AM   #2
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

I realised when i was 5 that santa clause didn't exist and I'd never be a proffessional cricketer. Have dreams but have them based upon reality
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:08 AM   #3
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

You keep trying at the 1% and you have a very good chance. Even better if you focus on the 2% or higher. Setting up a business for example should be much higher than 1% or at least the 2nd/3rd/nth attempts should be.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:11 AM   #4
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

This is a quote of Goethe's which is questioned as to authenticity by the pundits online. I've read similar if not the same but it is worth noting, so dream on and forget the 1% . Short of of changing or criticizing your entire characterological disposition we are hopeful that your futuristic ambitions manifest within. From the dream comes difficulty and growth and that can't be a bad thing.

“Until one is committed, there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then Providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamed would have come his way. Whatever you can do, or dream you can do, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. Begin it now.”
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:15 AM   #5
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

I will forever chase my second 17th birthday. Even if it takes the rest of my life...
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:18 AM   #6
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

OP, how old are you now? Hope you don't think it's rude to ask, but I think we can get more realistic if knowing.
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:53 AM   #7
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i wanted to learn to code and write my own website/app and then I am told you got it very few % make it big.

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if i go for trading poker or websites I am not necessarily looking to be warren buffet mark zuckerberg or phil ivey. I just want to achieve financial security hey if i end up been the best thats great, but I am happy with financial security.
Some inconsistencies here. Either you want to code or you want to make it big. Achieving financial security from programming isn't a far-fetched goal.
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Old 03-16-2016, 10:57 AM   #8
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How about cleaning platforms? Don't laugh.

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Old 03-16-2016, 11:15 AM   #9
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this is the guy with the top 1% IQ after increasing it from 70 to 144 right?

lol oh yeah
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:24 AM   #10
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well actually in many cases its a lot lower then 1% its just I have heard the same idea in relation to so many topics.
You have a much better chance of success if you learn to punctuate your sentences correctly and if you learn to use the correct words in your sentences. Because for all of the probabilities you put forward, you have about a 0% chance of getting past a resume review if you don't do those two things.
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:56 AM   #11
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

Grammar whining is so stupid. It's like overlooking linguistics on purpose in a contentious effort to both argue while avoiding understanding. I'd say that again if criticizing grammar whining were less than 1% popular in the polls.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:33 PM   #12
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Grammar whining is so stupid. It's like overlooking linguistics on purpose in a contentious effort to both argue while avoiding understanding. I'd say that again if criticizing grammar whining were less than 1% popular in the polls.
All I can say is that I've rejected applicants who have failed at basic grammar. Popular or not, the people who are gatekeepers care about your grammar. Why make your long shots even longer?
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:20 PM   #13
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

If you have great work ethic and really try you'll be impressed with what you can do. You may get that 1% dream or you may find something you enjoy equally that you didn't even know existed. People who put in effort succeed.
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:05 PM   #14
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

Presentation matters - a great deal in fact. In writing, manners, dress, and general deportment. This is especially true if you wish to make it into the 1% margin. Whatever that really means. Anyway, we may all snicker somewhat at Jeeves, but inwardly we have the sense that a great deal of wisdom is behind his pontifications on the subjects given above.

And the ability to express yourself clearly and concisely, both verbally and in writing, is a great skill that is always looked for by employers, especially for the 1% margin. Gaffs are looked upon askance, and even Jeeves would rise an eyebrow a quivering one quarter of an inch.
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:13 PM   #15
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

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All I can say is that I've rejected applicants who have failed at basic grammar. Popular or not, the people who are gatekeepers care about your grammar. Why make your long shots even longer?
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Presentation matters - a great deal in fact. In writing, manners, dress, and general deportment. This is especially true if you wish to make it into the 1% margin. Whatever that really means. Anyway, we may all snicker somewhat at Jeeves, but inwardly we have the sense that a great deal of wisdom is behind his pontifications on the subjects given above.

And the ability to express yourself clearly and concisely, both verbally and in writing, is a great skill that is always looked for by employers, especially for the 1% margin. Gaffs are looked upon askance, and even Jeeves would rise an eyebrow a quivering one quarter of an inch.
These are good points. It's only one in a million guys who don't have to care about these things. And now I'm talking about real one in a million guys, not those thinking they are. For example I'm not a one in a million guy. I have to find the margins where they are.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:22 PM   #16
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Re: is it worth going for less then 1%

By the way sometimes you have to define your own 1%. Maybe this is the key to happiness and success that comes naturally. The objective is not to win games others defined at the cost of more important things. The real objective should be to gain wisdom and virtue, to celebrate the chance to have lived in this mysterious world of discovery. If enough wisdom is created then what 1% secures today, an elusive destination for most, will be accessible to them tomorrow and better objectives of excellence would have emerged for all.

Julian Schwinger a true maverick and contemporary genius with Richard Feynman and Sin-Itiro Tomonaga, sharing a Nobel prize with them for the development of Quantum Electrodynamics (all 3 in rather independent approaches), used to say;

"If you can't join 'em beat 'em."
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:04 PM   #17
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Time to merge this forum with TLDR. Hasn't really been an SMP forum in awhile.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:30 PM   #18
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A forum is what you make it. So make it what you claim it isnt when it isnt or open you eyes and see where it is at its best (undermining the characterization "awhile") already in the first page alone by browsing the titles and seeing what can be learned in many of them that cannot be learned elsewhere in 2+2 at the time.

Care to make a list of the number of posts in the first page alone (and the pages they lead to of course per thread) that you can learn things from? I bet its over 100 learning moments (past few weeks) by various people right away (even if we took the news and homework thread with only 30 days horizon) for many people that come here and post or just browse.

Even in this thread one could learn something SMP related.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:50 PM   #19
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I just found one of the kids I grew up with on IMBD.

I was the kid from my high school with all the "good luck with your acting career" stuff written in my yearbook. I think he might have had the part of "Tree, third from the back" in our high school play.

I had absolutely no interest in an acting career. He, apparently did. It is more of an avocation than an occupation to him (he gets bit parts in movies and TV series and has a well-paying job), but we are both pretty happy from what I understand.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:24 AM   #20
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There are a lot of things you can get into where you will at least make a living while having the opportunity to reach great heights through hard work and talent. Also, even modest success can be turned into financial security if you are willing to get rich slowly through savings and intelligent investing.


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Old 03-17-2016, 01:45 AM   #21
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All I can say is that I've rejected applicants who have failed at basic grammar. Popular or not, the people who are gatekeepers care about your grammar. Why make your long shots even longer?

Amateur operant conditioning of internet grammar for sake popular superficiality is what it is. If the thread is about "help me with my grammar" at least you'll be on topic with someone looking for help rather than fighting against the diversity of brains out of presumption. Or go teach elementary school, you'll have a captive audience.

Or surrender to the crowd of form over substance and the unrealistic goal of 100% conformity to superficial preference. Just please don't fool yourself that you are helping most anyone with your approach, except yourself.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:08 AM   #22
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A good reason to make grammer mistakes on CVs is to avoid working for the sort of people who don't hire people because of grammer mistakes.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:57 AM   #23
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hi few things firstly I am 31 someone said my age is important well I guess it is if i want to go for professional sports but i know that ship has sailed.

my IQ was tested officially but about the 70 to 144 thing you have to note my autism in this case. big moves in IQ is a known phenomenon in autism in fact there is numerous psychological research looking into it. I dont want to derail this topic to much as this is a massive topic i should make another separate thread on but its just finding the time. It is very likely that the autistic individuals have that high potential its just they need the right environment to release it. well not just highly probable it is the case. In fact, research has shown that if you carry the autistic gene without having autism there is a high probability that your significantly above average intelligence.

one logical hypothesis one could draw is that these individuals do have autism but had the right environment and thus the autism was never an adverse enough effect to get noticed.

my grammar has always sucked I was let down by my school in that area when I was younger and never rectified it. long story.

I am well aware that if you allow long enough with sensible investments you can be very wealthy indeed. few points on that though.

firstly yes but I would like to be financially secure before i am 50. hopefully before 40.

secondly past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future performance, I think the world has a lot of economic problems potentially facing the worst economic crash in history. so I am skeptical whether this works long term. However the constant fear and manipulation of global markets does offer a lot of potential for swing trading. I absolutely believe this will make a few billionaires in the mean time, whether i can be one is another question all together.

I continue to study it and am making a profit, but ive been down and up on money at several points so sample size not big enough etc.


running your own business has a higher rate of success but a much larger risk. if your business goes under you can lose everything i know limited companies and all but banks will often ask you to secure your house against it or other things etc, plus your working full time on this and if you go broke your bust. I am sure there are some business models you can just do on the side but generally its a full time job usually.

trading and poker can be done part time ish. I don't think I will ever do well working for anyone else.

If I am truly honest with myself when I played basketball sure i tried on the court, but I never put in the hours of practice away from the court. if you look at Michael Kobe or curry they all put in massive effort. most people i played basketball with never trained away from the court either maybe this is a big thing its only a small % of people that ever truly give it there best. the majority just show up. If I had worked my hardest would I have made the NBA probably not I mean I am from the UK, you improve by been challenged and the thing is the standard around me was never high enough to provide the training environment. Plus I know I have very good genes for intelligence, but this is not necessarily the case for athletic prowess.
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Old 03-17-2016, 05:20 AM   #24
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You sound intelligent. How tall are you? You probably couldnt of made it in the NBA being a white kid from England? Or UK at least. Work for yourself. But trading and poker/sports betting etc. have their risks- you could end up down degenerate paths

Goodluck to you, and
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In fact, research has shown that if you carry the autistic gene without having autism there is a high probability that your significantly above average intelligence.

one logical hypothesis one could draw is that these individuals do have autism but had the right environment and thus the autism was never an adverse enough effect to get
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this resonated with me. I used to be semi autistic on many fronts but learnt the hard way how not to be. Goodluck on your journey
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Old 03-17-2016, 11:42 AM   #25
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How about don't take career advice from babbling randos from the cesspit of a gambling forum?
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