Supremacy-mentality self-destructs whatever data it builds itself upon. They can only fool some of the people some of the time because, due to neurodiversity, we all aren’t impressed by the performances that supremacy-mentality necessitates.

you like bach or is that just a random avatar?

If a Google image result is your first source of evidence for the the claims you've made I'm not really sure where we can go from here. Well Named provided some sources worth reading into but I know you won't. Confirmation bias and selective memory are the hallmarks of a valid racist classification.

I agree, which is why I favor the genes of those who were born under Taurus and are between 5'11" and 6'1" and are not French.

They have several things in common with me that are objectively measurable categorically, which means it makes sense to favor them over others who I don't have these things in common with.

i think it's more important to look at what the computer actually did, than read an article of someone else's synopsis. i'm sure you didn't analyze it, you're just riding wellnamed's coattails. and yes, i did read the links he posted, as well as his own 2+2 post of his own study:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=125
i have already admitted these classifications are somewhat arbitrary, as we can divide populations from 1-600 groups if we want.
i'm not sure if this is a semantic problem we are having, but i think it's clear to all of us, well named included, that we can all immediately tell at first glance, whether someone is of an asian, black, or white phenotype.
do we know what the pure phenotype is of any of these classifications? no. is there a ton of overlap between these classifications? yes.
this does not negate the information that these "arbitrary" classifications can provide, as this information is not random.

or maybe you truly are colorblind like all the other boomer conservatives.

the main reason to use say, 3-5 racial groups, is besides clear physical differences, there are clear behavioral differences that remain consistent whether within their native geographic location or a multicultural society like ours. asians represent 5-6% of the u.s. population, but only 1% of murders. blacks represent 14% of the u.s. population, but 50% of murders.
the average iq of east asians is 105. the avg iq of us blacks is 85.
different hormone levels, different gestation and maturation periods.

please explain how there is no information to be gained by classifying blacks and asians into separate categories. and how any inference made would be completely random.

Verifiable evidence from a reliable source(s) is needed for assertions presented in your first paragraph Mr autozone. (For example, FBI statistics or credible scientific journals.) This is not the politics forum. This is SMP, provide evidence or retract statements.

An accusation of racism has been reported and this will be taken seriously.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...sen30years.pdf

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfreds...sen30years.pdf
pages 257 and 265

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-21

If someone can find the very long refutation of Rushton and Jensen's work that I wrote up a long time ago, that would be great.

Until it is found, I'd like to point out my experience at Price, NC and other locations.

before anyone else posts about iq, keep in mind: i don't really care. i don't give it that much importance and have no clue how valid it is as a measurement of intelligence.
whatever it is measuring, is valid enough to show consistency in avgs and disparities.

By this logic you'd be a mother ****er.

You seem to have a few posts that mention Rushton, on this and the original BrianTheMick account.

this one is relevant to the claim that race is some reliable global predictor of things like IQ.

Autozone should probably also read about The Flynn Effect, e.g.

The Flynn Effect: A Meta-analysis
The Flynn Effect within Subgroups in the U.S.: Gender, Race, Income, Education, and Urbanization Differences in the NLSY-Children Data
The Flynn Effect and IQ Disparities Among Races, Ethnicities, and Nations: Are There Common Links?

Where he will find that the data he's cited on IQ specifically is decades out of date, and doesn't support his claims.

Obviously the criminal justice system is its own ball of wax, but I've already linked a thread that goes into some detail about racism in policing, jury selection, and so on.

I can point to a longer post I've written on race and IQ which also addresses some related claims and rebuts a standard racist source here (different forum: be warned it's kind of a nasty place).

It shouldn't be surprising that he has "sources". Scientific racism is a thing, and has been for a long time. But they aren't reliable or credible sources. They are the same standard bull**** racist sources they've been trotting out for over a decade, reflecting ideas much older than that. He's already told you he doesn't actually even care whether what he's saying is correct or not. It's convenient for his white supremacist views, and that's what matters.

I've spent too much time (but probably not as much as Brian) learning about this stuff because it bothered me, but I don't think there's much benefit to letting this neo-nazi who has already had one RGT thread closed and already been banned from politics for the same thing rehash the same tired racist nonsense that all of his fellow-travelers rely on.

Noted, Well Named. Thanks. Didn't know any of the history.

So there it is.

the reason 14% of the population commits half of the murders is because of an unfair justice system. got it.

No, that's not my position. I would also point you towards the long history of racist institutions and beliefs (like yours) which have created conditions of socioeconomic inequality and segregation which persist into the present, although we have made some progress at making those institutions less explicitly racist, and most people thankfully now hold less explicitly racist views than you.

But, on top of the inequality which is a result of past racism there are still also systemic features in our society which disproportionately disadvantage blacks, especially in the criminal justice system. Since I already linked a thread which details a few of those issues, it was worth pointing out. But that thread also discusses the importance of history and economic inequality. It's not always easy to disentangle disadvantage that is just the result of economic inequality (e.g. discrimination against the poor in general) and racial bias. The DOJ report on the Ferguson PD is a useful example of how these intertwine:

They go on to describe how the "focus on revenue" leads to practices which unfairly hurt poor people, and the racial bias targeting black Americans specifically. This is connected to the point Brian makes in the post I linked that disparities between different groups in society are not simply the result of essential group differences, and this is clear because different groups fare differently in different societies.

would the crime rate gap between whites and asians also be explained by an income gap? as well as police discrimination? if not, what does explain it?
i've also read all of your old posts you've linked.
why does china have a higher national iq compared to the u.s. despite them being much poorer per capita?
education in china:
https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...the-population

you also argued that iq is not a valid measurement of intelligence. i already stated earlier that i agree with this point. i used this measurement to show a clear disparity of whatever it is measuring.

You just made a nonsensical reply to what was written. This is becoming more and more of a waste of time. I imagine that this waste of time is because of a combination of extremely poor genetics and lack of educational achievement.

household income 2016
asian: $83,183
white: $66,440

murder rate 2016
asian: 0.5 per 100,000
white: 1.4 per 100,000

advanced degree % 2015
asian: 21.4%
white: 13.5%

all clear differences in which one group underperforms in every metric, despite having the odds stacked in their favor in terms of privilege. what is the likely cause?


https://www.census.gov/content/dam/C...mo/p20-578.pdf
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2018/09/in...erview-of-data

As predicted, the JAQing is intensifying

So a path is being played that mimics the one in RGT by Mr. Autozone. No need for a rinse and repeat. So I'll mimic Original Position and simply closed this thread. It has fulfilled its purpose.

I will publicly and politely ask Mr. Autozone to refrain from posting on SMP or RGT on the current subjects under debate. Infractions and eventual banning will be the consequences if not adhered to.

Thread closed. Please move on - nothing more to see here.