He is at least technically correct in that it probably isn't just gun access and facebook. For instance, if no one had thumbs there probably would be fewer school shootings.

On depression I read that preventive screening is an approach becoming granted.

I wonder who is investigating whether violence and day to day combat posture contributes to depression? Looking.

Do you think the internet has also allowed people to feed their fantasies/obsessions?

I lol'ed.



Uh oh, better cut off that thumb!

Frankly, I'm shocked that you'd make such a supposition. No one feeds their fantasies or obsessions on the internets. What do you think the internets are, a place where we can look at girls doing interesting things?!?

There are plenty. Millions. What they (by "they" I mean those who have the willingness to kill) don't have is the willingness for DYING.

Willingness for dying..

If you had that, why would it matter to you whether a few others go down with you or not?

A willingness for dying is full acceptance of the fact that you are not meant for this world or this world is not meant for you. School shootings, I imagine, would involve some vengeful motivations.

How many people in America commit suicide, and how many attempt to commit suicide annually? (willingness for DYING)

How many people in America commit homicide, and how many attempt homicide annually? (willingness for KILLING)

You need a combination of willingness to die, to destroy permanently your life's future possibilities and a persistent hatred for others and society at large.


It takes a special kind of person that is willing to end everything they could ever hope for in exchange for one final victory against what they hated forever, others. That is why we must care for others. Because every little bit of unreasonable nastiness we produce for others helps them get closer to that point of transition.

Only someone that lacks the imagination that some other people can be good people and that they could help you or want you to prosper if given the chance to help you, will go all the way to terminate as many as possible. They have already abandoned the possibility that exists in the individual human spirit, a possibility realized by living and working your problems out to victory and wisdom. They have lost the faith in themselves and the others.

A criminal, even a violent criminal, doesnt enjoy killing usually, they kill by necessity and survival most of the time and because they do not care for the life of others when it will present an obstacle for them.

You need someone that is over the edge and no longer cares. That person is very dangerous. They are gone, they do not care for the ending for them. They only want that one victory. This is why someone like kim Jong-un is a dangerous person to have potent delivery nuclear weapons by the way, because they are at some point very close to no longer caring and willing to go all the way for that one last but impressive victory. A country governed by many will find it very difficult to commit a suicide. An individual can easily go there.

What we need is for all people to realize this is not a victory, this is the definition of accepting defeat that the sadness that brings you here to that desperation cannot be defeated. But it can be defeated and they fail to realize that the problem with naivete is that ... it doesnt know it (how). This is why one must not engage in irreversible processes of great impact without being super confident of their reasons and their secure validity into the future.


Terrorist killers are also in that camp but they also derive pleasure from anticipating great victory for their cause eventually beyond their own life. They are idealistic about it. The problem is that they will not win that way, they are deluded. Only greater ideas defeat other ideas, not more violent ideas. You cannot defeat terrorism because those involved have already lost. One can be very lethal then, especially with the emerging power of one through technology. All you can do is give them a good reason to want to live. And until you do that, create an intelligent defense world that is not tyrannically intrusive because personal secrets are respected and never exploited for anything other than protection of life.

We need to produce a world that it is very desirable to live in! This is why we need scientific society. Because its the only thing that can defeat terrorism. The desire to live and fight the right way. Because it is possible to win now or learn you are wrong and not in a way that destroys you but enriches you.

Does having an imagination allow people to, uh, feed, their fantasies and,um, obsessions?

The slant of the question to is whether the feeding makes the problem worse or not i.e is someone who feeds their murder/suicide thoughts more or less likely to act on them.

Unusually it seems like useful work for pychobobs and research because it's not obvious. Maybe some even know something about it.

Probably. Imagination is not a new factor though although maybe it's not fixed - does the internet displace or enhance imagination?

Imagination is what causes video games, so that's where one ends up by asking why violence would be provoked by video games?

Imagination also contributes to causing solutions to problems. So that's a steep hurdle to find problems at.

Ever play video games with kids and do we study that? I love delving with imagination.

I'm not talking about video games in those latest posts. fwiw I dont think video games cause violence. I do wonder if training bolsters confidence in those who are violent. It certainly boost competence which doesn't sound like a good plan.

someone should probably bring pornography into the discussion.

Does easy access to high quality porn divert lonely, ostracized teenagers away from fantasizing about killing people?

I edited my post because some of you obviously misunderstood my play on words. Only a small percentage of people who would otherwise commit crimes are willing to face the risk punishment. That is especially true when the risk is near certainty. THAT fact far outweighs any other reason why those kind of crimes are rare.

Undercover, young looking, strippers should be hired by the government to pretend to be students who have a fascination with these loners. That would work but of course won't happen. But perhaps a lesser version of this idea could actually be done.

That dead people are gross (especially if the stuff that is supposed to be on the inside is on the outside) probably outweighs any other reason.

Well you were referencing fantasy and the fantasy violence in video games is what is some times alleged to influence like the fantasy which is a porno. Is inability to discern fantasy from a fantasy about reality something a preventive screening might be able to correct?

Stealth preventive sex therapy social engineering for tax dollars.

So when you wrote DYING, you really meant JAIL?

Go on, tell me more.

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They should be available on the NHS although there's the downside that so many will end up chopped into small pieces.

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