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I don't believe im doing harm to anyone, least of all myself. Why are you both so adamant to have others believe exactly what you believe? Of what threat is some loony, alcoholic philosopher like Watts to you or your worldview? He's hardly taken seriously or understood by many to begin with.

When science is treated like a religion, scientists may act like religious zealots.

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08-01-2017 , 12:37 PM

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Alan Watts may be less of a pretzel head than Rudolf Steiner. Watts sold more books than Steiner for example. I read some of Watt's drivel when I was in High School, on the recommendation of some hippies. He was big in the 60's and 70's amongst the younger set and the Bay Area California Cool and the Beat Guys, 50's, (Kerouac) and some east coast hippies. I forget what book I read that I picked up at a second hand store. It was rather silly, almost as silly has the Book of Daniel, but less interesting. I'll take the Bible any day over Watts or Steiner. They are third rate hacks. The Bible kicks their ass from every angle.

So, you barely know who or what you are posting about seems to be the key takeaway of this post. Which makes sense- mocking and deriding something which is new or not well- understood is documented human folly.

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08-01-2017 , 01:01 PM

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Is a whole imagination greater than the sum of the parts of an imagination?

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08-01-2017 , 01:17 PM

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I don't have to know much about Shiva penis worship to know that it's probably nonsense. Flaming God-penises burning down forests (which you now have to worship or else more penises will burn down forests and killed your loved ones) doesn't require much investigation or in-depth knowledge. And even that is more correct and philosophically sophisticated than Watts.

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08-01-2017 , 01:23 PM

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Another superficial statement comprised mostly of derision. You ain't got it.

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08-01-2017 , 01:28 PM

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How can you have respect without derision? I'm providing the up to VeeDDzz's down so his man-love of Watts becomes more meaningful.

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08-01-2017 , 01:33 PM

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How can you have respect without derision? I'm providing the up to VeeDDzz's down so his man-love of Watts becomes more meaningful.

Alan Watts would probably dismiss anyone who tried to turn him into some kind of guru as you suggest and you would know that if you were familiar with who and what we are talking about.

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08-01-2017 , 06:22 PM

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Vee, continue to choose feeling good instead of truth. We all haven't that luxury. Didn't you mention somewhere your IQ isn't very high? Maybe that's enabling it?

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Are you crediting/blaming LSD for your ramblings?

That's right.

Low IQ and regular LSD use are not a popular combo. Especially when low IQ enables that use, as noted by plaaynde.

Luckily, popularity doesnt interest me (too) much. Especially during times of my life when I can get regular sex. At other times, it seems to matter more.

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08-01-2017 , 07:33 PM

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I thought it was weed. Now its LSD. And low IQ. You need to add the rainbows Carlo talked about. That will bring you up to a Holy Trinity - Low IQ, LSD and Rainbows to explain your posting style. At least you aren't' going on and on about chicken sandwiches.

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08-01-2017 , 08:11 PM

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Weed was affecting research performance at work; had to be done away with. LSD and micro-dosing has had the opposite effect. Only makes sense to experiment with it more.

I'm not at the rainbow level yet, although things are a bit more colourful.

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08-02-2017 , 04:49 AM

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I watched some Alan Watts video on the off chance you were right. He's mastered the art of saying total mindless blather in round English tones of authority. He's almost like an anti-person, a nonentity, like there's no soul or mind there, just a brainless collection of the shallowest and silliest interpretations of Eastern philosophy plugged into a first generation AI (and delivered in the same tone).

The good news is that I found something that can reliably send me to sleep. No joke - I watched his video and was fast asleep in five minutes.

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08-02-2017 , 04:55 AM

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Watch for yourself if you don't believe me. The ultimate sleeping pill. It's like he's saying the words but lacks the intelligence to understand what they mean or see them from more than one perspective. It's really weird. A kind of soulless brainless inexperienced goateed zombie philosophy.

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08-02-2017 , 05:22 AM

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Don't waste your energy trying to unblather the blather.

Its not for you.

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08-02-2017 , 09:20 AM

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Didn't watch.

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08-02-2017 , 09:53 AM

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Smoke a bunch of weed and say semi-deep **** and the hippies all line up for more. lol

Not that there's anything wrong with smoking a bunch of weed and saying ****.

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08-02-2017 , 12:42 PM

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So you have nothing to add to a discussion about him or any ideas related with him. You just have useless spew on the topic. A waste of thread space. Thanks for letting us know.

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08-02-2017 , 01:08 PM

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Don't waste your energy trying to unblather the blather.

Its not for you.

Maybe not though. What can be learned watching a person carry out their pre-conceived notions and cherry-picking examples to confirm them?

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08-02-2017 , 03:54 PM

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So you have nothing to add to a discussion about him or any ideas related with him. You just have useless spew on the topic. A waste of thread space. Thanks for letting us know.

I have lots to add. I was a big fan of Krishnamurti when I was 13 or so. Crystal clear thinker, deep insight, some similar topics but with a brain that functions. Wonderful stuff to discuss with his ideas.

But VeeDDz is quoting some cheap charlatan wacko from the 70s who latched onto Eastern philosophy and presented an ultra-dopey version for pop consumption, so he could get himself rich. He's a cross between Ron Hubbard and a coma patient.

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Maybe not though. What can be learned watching a person carry out their pre-conceived notions and cherry-picking examples to confirm them?

So you agree the video is embarassing? There's hope for you yet, my friend. And it wasn't cherry picked, I googled "Alan Watts" on Youtube and the crackpot you see above you came up.

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08-02-2017 , 04:06 PM

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The video is fine. Why waste your time being wrong about Alan Watts? Political, perhaps? He was not exactly a cultural supremacist, huh.

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08-02-2017 , 04:06 PM

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Since you're claiming I'm unfair, here's another one, randomly picked:

The first sentences.

"Time is a social institution, and not a physical reality"
"There is other words, not such thing as time, in the natural world, in the world of stars, and mountains and cars and living organism"
"There is such a thing as rhythm, rhythm of tides, rhythm of biological process"
"But time as such is a social institution, in the same way that language is..."

This guy is off the cuckmeter.

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08-02-2017 , 04:08 PM

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You can call him names as much as you like, but why is that impressive when children can do so just as easily as you?

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08-02-2017 , 04:13 PM

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I didn't make any claims about fairness. One-dimensional derision is fairly easy to discredit. Watts did it back when he did black and white videos in the 50s and 60s. LMAO.

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08-02-2017 , 04:30 PM

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Maybe not though. What can be learned watching a person carry out their pre-conceived notions and cherry-picking examples to confirm them?

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I didn't make any claims about fairness. One-dimensional derision is fairly easy to discredit. Watts did it back when he did black and white videos in the 50s and 60s. LMAO.

You'd be better at keeping up if you didn't listen to Watts. Claiming someone is cherry picking implies that they're not presenting examples of the person in question fairly.

You're the queen of one line childish derision. You post nothing of value. Work on yourself first.

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08-02-2017 , 04:39 PM

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You've failed in substituting an attitude of authority with having an actual knowledge and experience of the works of Alan Watts. You did try.

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08-02-2017 , 06:11 PM

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Who's substituting an attitude of authority? I'm showing his actual words and videos and finding them absurd, as would most people.

You're the one setting yourself up as an authority, implying that you know Watt's work and your opinion differs to mine and therefore we should listen to you. While providing zero example of said brilliant, respect-worthy work. You seem to do what you claim others do. It's strange.

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