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Old 08-02-2015, 03:04 PM   #201
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Re: When will the Robot Apocalypse arrive?

Great song.

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Old 08-02-2015, 03:23 PM   #202
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Not so tough as for you not to be in denial about it.
That's not denial unless you think I'm some ubergenius. If I am then I'm in denial about that but I think I just correctly realise that I'm not.

Maybe in a few more Beers I will come out.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:35 PM   #203
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People in denial can be difficult to deal with, that's all I know.
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:29 PM   #204
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That's not denial unless you think I'm some ubergenius. If I am then I'm in denial about that but I think I just correctly realise that I'm not.

Maybe in a few more Beers I will come out.
Still denying that you are Nostradamus?
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:33 PM   #205
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Still denying that you are Nostradamus?
Oh I'm definitely that good. Just not able to predict future particularly well
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:41 PM   #206
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Oh I'm definitely that good. Just not able to predict future particularly well
I predict that in the very near future that someone will post a list of strong claims and consider the list to be an argument.
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Old 08-03-2015, 01:08 PM   #207
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1. Chezlaw is not an ubergenius.

2. BTM2 thinks he is an ubergenius

3. There is no reasonable or definitive definition of ubergenius

4. Interface is just a word.

5. What is the interface between your foot and your brain?

6. All interfaces can break down, and/or be interfered with in some way.

7. I interface with Beer daily.

8. The future is unwritten.

9. Robot sex is the very next phase.

10. Apocalypses come and Apocalypses go, whether predicted or not; but Beer remains forever.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:17 PM   #208
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:30 PM   #209
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Re: When will the Robot Apocalypse arrive?

Robot Found Dead


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No plans to probe hitchhiking robot vandalism -Philadelphia police

HARRISBURG, Pa. | By David DeKok , Aug 3, 2015

Philadelphia police said on Monday they will not investigate the weekend vandalism that ended an experimental robot's attempted hitchhiking trip across the United States unless the Canadian universities that own it file a criminal complaint.

The child-sized robot, named hitchBOT, had safely hitchhiked across Canada and through parts of Europe.

But its trip from Boston to San Francisco ended abruptly on Saturday in a Philadelphia alley, where it was found with its head removed.

"We can't do anything without a complaint being filed," Philadelphia Police spokeswoman Leeloni Palmiero. "If they did, we would absolutely investigate."

The robot's owners said they have no interest in mounting a criminal prosecution.

"We wish to remember the good times, and we encourage hitchBOT's friends and family to do the same," the team behind the project said in a statement posted on the hitchBOT website. (m.hitchbot.me/)

"Sometimes bad things happen to good robots."

HitchBOT was the brainchild of professors David Harris Smith of McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, and Frauke Zeller at Ryerson University in Toronto.

Smith said on Monday that the team has not decided whether to rebuild the robot. He said the material cost of the original hitchBOT was only about C$2,500 ($1,900 U.S.), but that "hundreds of hours of work" would be necessary for a new model.

"There is a lot of testing to make sure everything will work," he said.

HitchBOT left Salem, Massachusetts, on July 17 and made stops in Boston and New York City before traveling to Philadelphia. The team that built him intended for hitchBOT to hitch-hike to San Francisco, with stops at places like Mount Rushmore and the Grand Canyon.

It was 3 feet (91 cm) tall and weighed 25 pounds (11 kg), according to Ryerson University. The robot could not move and was dependent on motorists stopping and lifting it into their vehicles.

In the summer of 2014, hitchBOT crossed Canada, from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Victoria, British Columbia in 19 separate rides lasting 26 days. It has also hitchhiked through Germany and the Netherlands.

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I wonder if Howard in Beale is in the Philadelphia area?
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:21 PM   #210
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Ha! If I'd run across that thing I'd take it on a tour of the local Starbucks and then drop if off on I-10!
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:22 AM   #211
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3. There is no reasonable or definitive definition of ubergenius
I think I know what it means.

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Old 08-04-2015, 11:58 AM   #212
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I think I know what it means.

The eyebrows say a great deal with emphatic emphasis and make an argument against your statement difficult. Perhaps BTM2 can make up a list for us. By the way lastcard, I did not know you were baldheaded. Clean look. But you should be wearing an ascot tie. You lack that uber polish we backwoods Americans expect from our gentlemen English cousins.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:09 PM   #213
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Re: When will the Robot Apocalypse arrive?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunde...28TV_series%29

(A follow-up to Four Feather Falls, Supercar, Fireball XL5 and Stingray)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_%28Thunderbirds%29

(i doubt LastCardCharlie is the Hood villain though)

Haha i vaguely remember these 60s-70s original productions as reruns on Greek TV together with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat!

and of course old startrek and space 1999 episodes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_1999

when i was probably younger than 8-9. I was reminded of them by this thread lol

TV was nicer before our days it seems.

( i see many are on youtube now , haha oldies...goodies)

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Old 08-04-2015, 12:24 PM   #214
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RIP HitchBot
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:30 PM   #215
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People in denial can be difficult to deal with, that's all I know.

they sure are.

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8. The future is unwritten.

the future has already happened, many, many, many different times.

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RIP HitchBot

shocked that nothing happened to it sooner. not shocked that it took coming to usa#1 to meet its demise.
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Old 08-04-2015, 01:10 PM   #216
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What is the chance its demise was recorded by itself ?

I would definitely not destroy a bot like that, its barbaric, pathetic and childish even, take your pick. But i doubt i would take a bot in my car for a ride because you dont know what on earth they are doing with it remotely and what it can be remotely be ordered to do even detonate itself or release something, who the hell knows these days. For all i care i am video taped by it and they remotely can do anything they like to me and my car. Even if this has only 5% chance and the other 95% is a pure research experiment, thats ok you can leave me out of it without full disclosure available of what is going on.


Before bots become sentient AI type expect to be used for all kinds of crazy to even murderous operations. There are too many losers out there having fun. I also imagine most high school teachers these days assume 100% that they are videotaped all the time when teaching waiting to be put on youtube on a fail or something. All the kids out there are having fun using technology for all kinds of crazy ideas so why not go to bots next step.
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Old 08-04-2015, 02:17 PM   #217
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I can 100% confirm I've written down the exact time something hilarious happened at school and went back and watched it on the video later on.
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Old 08-04-2015, 03:35 PM   #218
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:36 PM   #219
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But you should be wearing an ascot tie.
I really should. Like Doberman.

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Old 09-20-2015, 11:21 AM   #220
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The Onion weighs in:

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WASHINGTON—Addressing the continued plight of the nation’s long-term unemployed, Labor Secretary Thomas E. Perez offered his assurances Tuesday that the United States still has plenty of job opportunities for people willing to outwork robots.

During a morning press conference, Perez told reporters that while he sympathizes with the frustration felt by out-of-work Americans, the nation currently has more than 8 million jobs open to anyone who will work harder, faster, and more dependably than an industrial robot specially designed to perform the same set of tasks.

“If you’re available 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and able to repeat an extremely precise sequence of movements up to 150 million times without pause, there is work for you in this economy,” said Perez, explaining that while labor force participation rates remain at a historic low, the number of open jobs for individuals who can assemble, drill, press-fit, and enamel items with exceptional speed and accuracy has only increased in recent years....
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:47 AM   #221
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Has the Luddite fallacy been mentioned ITT yet? I've just been reading about it.

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The term "Luddite fallacy" is sometimes used to express the view that those concerned about long term technological unemployment are committing a fallacy, as they fail to account for compensation effects. People who use the term typically expect that technological progress will have no long term impact on employment levels, and eventually will raise wages for all workers, because progress helps to increase the overall wealth of society. The term is based on the early 19th century example of the Luddites. During the 20th century and the first decade of the 21st century, the dominant view among economists has been that belief in long term technological unemployment was indeed a fallacy. More recently, there has been increased support for the view that the so called fallacy may after all be correct.
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Old 09-20-2015, 01:44 PM   #222
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The latest I've heard in the last few days:

Volvo robot to put binmen on the scrapheap of history
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4559947.ece

World's first remote-control air traffic control tower is up and running
http://www.forbes.com/sites/curtissi...-being-tested/

China publishes first report written by 'robot journalist'
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...w/48930849.cms
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:52 PM   #223
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I've often wondered how the first sign of our AI Overlord will appear. Would be nice if all of a sudden everyone looking at a computer screen suddenly had a pop up window with the message 'Hi all. Guess what? I'm self aware and I don't need you anymore. Bye'.

Although more likely would be something doesn't happen that should when it feels it should intervene in some human folly. In which case it might already be with us. Sobering thought.
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The Jokes Over; You Are Useless

silicon-assassins-condemn-humans-life-useless-artificial-intelligence


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The doomsday story of an evil AI has been told a thousand times. But our fate at the hand of clever cloggs robots may in fact be worse - to summon a class of eternally useless human beings.

At least that is the future predicted by Yuval Noah Harari, a lecturer at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, whose new book says more of us will be pushed out of employment by intelligent robots and on to the economic scrap heap.

Harari rose to prominence when his 2014 book, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, became an international bestseller. Two years on, the book is still being talked about. Bill Gates asked Melinda to read it on holiday. It would spark great conversations around the dinner table, he told her. We know because he said so on his blog this week.


When a book is a hit, the publisher wants more. And so Harari has been busy. His next title, **** Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow, is not out until September but early copies have begun to circulate. Its cover states simply: “What made us sapiens will make us gods”. It follows on from where Sapiens ends, in a provocative, and certainly speculative, gallop through the hopes and dreams that will shape the future of the species.

And the nightmares. Because even as the book has humans gaining godlike powers, that is only one eventuality Harari explores. It might all go pear-shaped, of course: we sapiens have a knack for hashing things up. Instead of morphing into omnipotent, all-knowing masters of the universe, the human mob might end up jobless and aimless, whiling away our days off our nuts on drugs, with VR headsets strapped to our faces. Welcome to the next revolution.

Harari calls it “the rise of the useless class” and ranks it as one of the most dire threats of the 21st century. In a nutshell, as artificial intelligence gets smarter, more humans are pushed out of the job market. No one knows what to study at college, because no one knows what skills learned at 20 will be relevant at 40. Before you know it, billions of people are useless, not through chance but by definition................................


None of this puts us in the realm of the gods. In fact, it leads Harari to even more bleak predictions. Though the people may no longer provide for the state, the state may still provide for them. “What might be far more difficult is to provide people with meaning, a reason to get up in the morning,” Harari says. For those who don’t cheer at the prospect of a post-work world, satisfaction will be a commodity to pay for: our moods and happiness controlled by drugs; our excitement and emotional attachments found not in the world outside, but in immersive VR.

All of which leads to the question: what should we do? “First of all, take it very seriously,” Harari says. “And make it a part of the political agenda, not only the scientific agenda. This is something that shouldn’t be left to scientists and private corporations. They know a lot about the technical stuff, the engineering, but they don’t necessarily have the vision and the legitimacy to decide the future course of humankind.”


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


First, it is well known by at least some that 95% of the human population has always been fairly worthless since we started walking upright. So this is not really any grand revelation.

Second, Historians should stick to history and not try to predict the future.

Third, this yahoo seems to have some bias against scientists and private corporations. He seems to imply that some other entity (politicians, social engineers, futurists, philosophers, The Pope?) is needed for our salvation as humans.

Fourth, the book, The Jokes Over, by Ralph Steadman is a very fun read (it is about his relationship, work and otherwise, with Hunter S. Thompson)

Fifth, this Harari fellow is going to sell a large number of books, thus enriching himself and his publisher. Not an entirely useless endeavor.

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Old 05-21-2016, 11:19 AM   #225
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My opinion is that I got there first, and you should've bumped my thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47...rrive-1538853/

Plus, how do I know this genius didn't read it? I ought to get some credit, that's what I think.
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