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What does dying have to do with existing? Dead things are still things. Things that exist.

Sometimes people seem to get a kick out of mistaking one concept with another. Perhaps you meant, "consciousness" or "awareness."

Is there any difference between has existed and does exist?

BTW "We don't care what people say, rock'n'roll is here to stay" "Hey hey, my my, rock'n'roll will never die". That was what I meant

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06-06-2020 , 12:23 AM

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To exist is to play the game. The interactions game. I think therefore i am is a subset of that. A particle only exists in the sense it affects the rest of the system.

This is a participatory universe. Geometry is born out of interactions. Emergent things do not exist in the deepest sense. The consequences of their connections exist.

You cannot have existence without change. Because there is no interaction without change. There is no such thing as a single electron for example with nothing else in the universe. What does it do now?

I'd say the electron would have a potential existence.

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06-06-2020 , 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by plaaynde

Is there any difference between has existed and does exist?

BTW "We don't care what people say, rock'n'roll is here to stay" "Hey hey, my my, rock'n'roll will never die". That was what I meant

Sort of. Lots of things are ephemeral, and if something isn't now, it isn't. Right now, I am Brian-typing-to-plaaynde-without-sufficient-caffeination. In a few minutes, that particular Brian won't be. I've been assured that caffeinated-Brian won't mind at all, but that will be up to him to determine. For convenience, I like to lump many of the Brians together into a category.

Existing is a verb. Nominalization takes something away

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06-06-2020 , 02:34 PM

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It's safe to say I'm not plaaynde.

Shows the relativism of all.

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06-06-2020 , 03:49 PM

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But I'm more of plaaynde than I ain't.

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06-11-2020 , 11:25 PM

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Try not being Plaaynde at all. It could be your soul’s awakening for you. P.G. Wodehouse style.

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06-12-2020 , 05:58 PM

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Being is. Always has been. Always will be.

The deficiency of human Being, the human need to define Being in terms compatible with the fleeting nature of a human life span and human perception, renders human Being incapable of answering the question posed.

Exposed to an understanding of the greater Being, the knowledge would drive all humanity insane, being that the limited mind of human Being would cease all functions except the impossible task of comprehending greater Being.

I prefer to simply Be, as I Be, where I Be, with whom I Be, when I Be. Knock yourself out, though.

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06-15-2020 , 02:15 PM

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I think. I think I am. Therefore, I am.

- Moody Blues

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06-15-2020 , 02:42 PM

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Science is exploring existence.

Collective history is too.

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06-15-2020 , 05:21 PM

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Some would say existence is that which precedes essence

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06-16-2020 , 12:09 AM

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PairTheBoard

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06-17-2020 , 05:11 AM

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Suffering. It's a whole lot of that for sure. But is it worth the candle.
That's up to you. I shot about 200 loads into my ex and never conceived. Still unsure if that was my problem or otherwise. But I don't think it's a problem. I'm on my moral high horse now for not bringing bastards into this god forsaken land.

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07-20-2020 , 05:20 AM

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"To be [exist] is to be perceived." - George Berkeley

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07-21-2020 , 08:18 PM

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"To be 200 lbs. is to be weighed." - George Berkeley

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07-26-2020 , 06:50 PM

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You're supposed to type FYP.

Otherwise, you are misquoting ME.

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07-26-2020 , 07:14 PM

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You're supposed to type FYP.

Otherwise, you are misquoting ME.

Times, they are a-changing. The single period has been acceptable for a while now. In fact, if you check Deuteronomy closely, you will see that it was permissible in ancient times. I can't remember the particular verse.

Even not doing so is acceptable in cases where the change is meant for humor's sake.

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07-27-2020 , 10:17 AM

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Altering a post without "FYP" was condemned at Vatican II. Case closed.

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08-04-2020 , 03:32 PM

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I'm in the FYP camp.

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08-06-2020 , 12:01 PM

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I'm in the . camp.

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