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Old 06-04-2020, 12:48 AM   #1
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What is existence?

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Old 06-04-2020, 12:52 AM   #2
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Re: What is existence?

Something is.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:58 AM   #3
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I'm fond of the sanskrit phrase idam sarvam: "all this." Existence is idam sarvam, sarvam idam -- all this, this all.
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:13 AM   #4
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Re: What is existence?

existence is too low on the philosophical pyramid to be discussed with any meaningful results, imo. for the most part (if not the full part) it has to be treated as an axiom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom)
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Old 06-04-2020, 12:26 PM   #5
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What a sunrise!
What a smile!
What luck!
What existence!


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Old 06-04-2020, 02:21 PM   #6
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Re: What is existence?

consciousness ?
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Old 06-04-2020, 03:02 PM   #7
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Re: What is existence?

I think consciousness is a bit overvalued. We lie to our selves. Luckily we have some ability to register data. And then try to dig into it.
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Old 06-04-2020, 08:57 PM   #8
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Re: What is existence?

To be, or not to be, that is the question plaaynde wants answered.
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Old 06-05-2020, 12:48 AM   #9
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Re: What is existence?

Change, difference from empty set, registration of an interaction that changes or establishes something.
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:45 PM   #10
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Re: What is existence?

Are there grades of existence?
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:49 PM   #11
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Memory.
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:53 PM   #12
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Seems to be a pass/fail sort of thing.
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Old 06-05-2020, 03:53 PM   #13
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Definitely a lattice gradient.
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Old 06-05-2020, 04:03 PM   #14
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Memory.
Pretty sure that rocks exist
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:16 PM   #15
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Rock will never die?
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:24 PM   #16
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What does dying have to do with existing? Dead things are still things. Things that exist.

Sometimes people seem to get a kick out of mistaking one concept with another. Perhaps you meant, "consciousness" or "awareness."
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:43 PM   #17
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Re: What is existence?

God is a comedian and we are the audience. Personally I think that God's using a laugh track bec this isn't funny in the least.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:52 PM   #18
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Maybe you aren't the target audience. Next time be more careful to read the reviews before getting a ticket. Obviously, never sit in the front row.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:55 PM   #19
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Re: What is existence?

Who is God?

I'm not kidding.

In B4 lock.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:59 PM   #20
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Re: What is existence?

I'd say existence exists. We need to start from there.
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:02 PM   #21
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Who is God?

I'm not kidding.

In B4 lock.
I thought it obvious it was always me. -Zeno, Master of the Universe
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Old 06-05-2020, 06:11 PM   #22
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Re: What is existence?

I thought you were the world? At least driving the truckload.

- I'm the king of the world, yippee!

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Old 06-05-2020, 07:36 PM   #23
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Re: What is existence?

To exist is to play the game. The interactions game. I think therefore i am is a subset of that. A particle only exists in the sense it affects the rest of the system.

This is a participatory universe. Geometry is born out of interactions. Emergent things do not exist in the deepest sense. The consequences of their connections exist.

You cannot have existence without change. Because there is no interaction without change. There is no such thing as a single electron for example with nothing else in the universe. What does it do now?
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Old 06-05-2020, 07:54 PM   #24
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Re: What is existence?

Existence is the transfer of information.

Memory is only important as storage of information.

And time (duration) is tied to memory. If a single entity has an infinite memory capacity for information storage but it resets every minute or hour...........information is not transferred.

Then move to two independent entities that exist............then multiply up.....

Then add Beer................
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:29 PM   #25
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Existence is the transfer of information...

And time (duration) is tied to memory. If a single entity has an infinite memory capacity for information storage but it resets every minute or hour...........information is not transferred.

...

Then add Beer................
If you drink enough that you don't remember, then those events never existed because information was not transferred.
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