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04-09-2010 , 03:29 AM

#51

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

You not being able to understand... is not evidence.

A point I wish everyone would grasp, regarding many questions.

04-09-2010 , 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pen15

God is at the edge of the universe, that's much more plausible than the scientific crap about it being circular and such nonsense.

It's odd isn't it when some scientists mock creationists when their own explanation is far less plausible then Genesis.

You have to have a chuckle at that don't you, you get Dawkin's on about the spaghetti monster yet science has it's 'string theory' - lol - oh the irony!!!

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I have no idea what you talking about

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I have a theory about a little string in this thread: it's shriveled up into a cocoon and lost its head. Try to poke it, tease and shout; all you'll get out of it is a self-serving spout.

Last edited by DDNK; 04-09-2010 at 04:18 AM. Reason: Max, it's from a Modest Mouse song I was listening to at the time. I would take this more seriously, but, well...

04-09-2010 , 10:15 AM

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What is the shape of the universe?

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I hereby notify you that I know nothing about this and therefore not claiming I know anything either so spare me your condesending bull****. Serious question.

04-09-2010 , 10:57 AM

#54

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

What are you even talking about? The most popular opinion of the shape of the universe today is certainly possible just based on basic topology. It could be incomplete, and the universe could be embedded in 4+1 D or anything higher, but there is no evidence that it is. (You not being able to understand the modern view is not evidence.)

String theory is irrelevant for this discussion. And nobody is saying you should "believe" it anyway, partly because nobody even knows what it is yet.

"Modern Topology" is is just fantasy though, it is not based on science, it's jsu something dreamt up, it's as valid as saying 1+1=3, fine you can do some real maths with that, but please bear in mind it is not actually real.

04-09-2010 , 11:22 AM

#55

chezlaw

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the big bang burger bar is at one edge.

04-09-2010 , 11:24 AM

#56

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That's already been said.

04-09-2010 , 11:36 AM

#57

chezlaw

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so why is the thread stil going?

04-09-2010 , 11:42 AM

#58

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so why is the thread stil going?

Because people are posting in it - doh!!!!!!!!

04-09-2010 , 11:43 AM

#59

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It really is a confusing subject, and one which I've never really wrapped my head around. I mean, if the universe is in a box or sphere or any geometrical shape, what's outside of it?

And if it isn't, how can anything just continue on into infinity? There'd have to be infinite matter to occupy this infinite space right? If not and its empty, then what makes our corner of existence so special as to have all the matter? The whole idea is just boggling.

04-09-2010 , 11:51 AM

#60

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wait, so you physics people are telling me that the current theory of the universe is that if i were to aim a rocket straight up from the earth, eventually i'd go through the entire universe, come back around where i started and hit china?

04-09-2010 , 01:12 PM

#61

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Yea apparently if you bend over and pull you pants down and look straight ahead you will be able to see up you own arse.
That is the current state of play in advanced physics, sounds about right doesn't it?

04-09-2010 , 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pen15

So when you made this thread you expected somebody to come up with some crackpot original research that gave an answer that you would like? I'm sure modern math looks like gibberish to somebody you hasn't tried to learn it, just like the greatest poem ever would not be distinguishable from nonsense to me if it was written in Chinese.

04-09-2010 , 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakelamotta

Nobody is getting **** on for asking questions, it's for rejecting answers they don't fully understand for arbitrary reasons.

04-09-2010 , 01:48 PM

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Why even make the thread in a science/math forum? Why not just make up your own answer or ask some other type of forum with people who would give an answer not based on math/science?

04-09-2010 , 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

Why even make the thread in a science/math forum? Why not just make up your own answer or ask some other type of forum with people who would give an answer not based on math/science?

He's trolling...

04-09-2010 , 03:26 PM

#66

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Yeah, Max, he's a blatant troll. He might not be doing it on purpose, but still.

04-09-2010 , 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Raker

Nobody is getting **** on for asking questions, it's for rejecting answers they don't fully understand for arbitrary reasons.

For rejecting answers which don't have a shred of evidence to support them.

I fully understand the answers however the answers are just not credible.

Last edited by pen15; 04-09-2010 at 03:35 PM.

04-09-2010 , 03:37 PM

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When you win your Nobel prize for debunking physics, be sure to give a shout out to all the posters who didn't recognize your genius on twoplustwo.

04-09-2010 , 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pen15

For rejecting answers which don't have a shred of evidence to support them.

There is evidence, but it takes time and effort to learn what is known and what is conjectured and why.

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I am not the type who accepts bullsh*t unquestionably.

Doesn't seem like it. Your view that this is some huge mystery that nobody understands is total bullsh*t that you accept blindly.

04-09-2010 , 03:48 PM

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There is evidence, but it takes time and effort to learn what is known and what is conjectured and why.

Doesn't seem like it. Your view that this is some huge mystery that nobody understands is total bullsh*t that you accept blindly.

It does not take much time and effort to recongnise obvious baloney.

If they understood it they would have a credible explanation however they don;t and try to cover their failure with a cloak of bullsh*t.

04-09-2010 , 04:27 PM

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04-09-2010 , 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pen15

It does not take much time and effort to recongnise obvious baloney.

It takes even less to write it.

04-09-2010 , 07:26 PM

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Didn't take you long to find that out.

04-09-2010 , 10:42 PM

#74

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Forum should be renamed SMPI, or SMPS, if this crap keeps up.

Seriously, OP is now laughing at, among other people, the professional physicists who have answered his question, because the answers they have given are beyond his comprehension (and therefore, in his eyes, "bull****").