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06-19-2020 , 11:01 AM
Scary thing. Right after my last post I opened a youtube tab to listen to a song I was hearing in a movie. The ad I had to look at before getting to the song was a Hershey ad.


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06-19-2020 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PairTheBoard
Scary thing. Right after my last post I opened a youtube tab to listen to a song I was hearing in a movie. The ad I had to look at before getting to the song was a Hershey ad.





PairTheBoard
This scary?

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06-19-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
This scary?


Not that scary. But it was a pretty large Hershey bar.


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06-19-2020 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Your post is self-contradictory. Fruit & nut is so good that it's pure madness to buy it in bulk.
What are you talking about? Bulk means lower average price hence more items hence more pleasure per $. Of course you have to take it easy and not get fat with relentless go crazy eat one every day impulses but at least you have always a supply line if you need a pick up moment to go out and fight some problem or situation or whatever. Ice cream works well too but you have to be careful with it because it can be gone in less than a week.

See it as an exercise in disciplined behavior. It is there but it is still 3 this evening. I got them for the isolation thing as emotional boost lol. Paid $24 for them back when it was early April. (essential shipped item lol). Of course having Trump still there is enough of a reason to order ten such packets.
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06-19-2020 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PairTheBoard
Scary thing. Right after my last post I opened a youtube tab to listen to a song I was hearing in a movie. The ad I had to look at before getting to the song was a Hershey ad.


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You better believe they are following you and adjusting ads. They are scum. And you know they are scum because the same thing never happens with x rated things or erotic content whatever. You will not get x-rated ads because you have been in "ill repute" places before. That right there indicates they want to preserve etiquette like a silent gentlemen's agreement which makes it even creepier that they have such algorithmic conditionals. Its like in your face telling you we know and we dont tell to protect your social "integrity" (lol) but we do know because look what happens with chocolate or laptops or quantum mechanics books or new cars or flashlights lol. Cookies whatever.

I hate these idiots that have the audacity to think they can do things without ever authorizing them. Every new computer must come with option to completely block any following of your activities in that computer. Of course they collect data. All i have to say to the system is collect "this"! Basically they better collect everything about you or nothing. And they better not do anything with it but of course they do and at this point in time they have decided its only about some money. But it can get worse eventually with people like Trump and his posse filling all key positions. One day it will be about a "dangerous" but necessary idea. Being a scientist will be criminal. Any rebellion will be a crime.

You can avoid this running in incognito mode. Then no ad correlation happens. But you of course know they still collect and play silent. We are talking about genuine mfing system in place under our blessing or ignorance. Another day i will describe to you how they can create the ultimate observe everything system and no hacker will ever know it is there except the 2-3 that are running it. All you have to do is introduce 5-6 vulnerabilities in all CPU architectures that require like large number factorization endless hacking efforts to detect with limited success making it impossible you will see the functionality all 5 produce because each one alone is innocent and random. Then automatically all big websites become observation points of all your computing activity. You visit a place and they know a ton of things instantly.
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06-20-2020 , 09:56 AM
One large bar of Fruit & Nut per week is within tolerance, I guess.
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06-24-2020 , 03:53 PM
Never quite sure why people search for new example for considering this. The problem of feeling pain is the easiest to consider and covers it all.
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06-24-2020 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Never quite sure why people search for new example for considering this. The problem of feeling pain is the easiest to consider and covers it all.
I always thought the color fuchsia to a blind man was the easiest to consider. Or maybe it was red.

The suffering thing is more important though, so kills two birds that were minding their own individual businesses with one stone that doesn't seem to have a mind to be minded.
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06-24-2020 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Never quite sure why people search for new example for considering this. The problem of feeling pain is the easiest to consider and covers it all.
Where was the problem, with pain as the example, considered originally?
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06-25-2020 , 08:02 AM
Imaging how things feel for other beings.
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06-27-2020 , 08:40 AM
...Or what it's like to be a bat.

I'm over the hard problem now. I've thought it through to the end and reached the stage of acceptance. Accepting that it's a hard if not impossible problem.

"Reality isn't physical, that's just an idea. Reality isn't spiritual, that's also an idea. Reality is simply: (* bangs a gong)."
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06-30-2020 , 12:43 AM
LActually we could take this to another tangent. Change the conversation. By asking why does pain have to be so painful. Dawkins wrote a nice piece on this. He went on to argue that a red flag or that of a similar but less painful happening might have been enough.

Nietzsche wondered if pain and pleasure were two sides of the same coin. He used tickling as an example. As in, it's a confusion. But whatevs
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06-30-2020 , 01:07 AM
Who respects a red flag?
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06-30-2020 , 07:52 AM
If it was a red flag it would become politicized. It's hard to get all partisan about painful pain, although exceptional people might find a way.


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06-30-2020 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MacOneDouble
LActually we could take this to another tangent. Change the conversation. By asking why does pain have to be so painful. Dawkins wrote a nice piece on this. He went on to argue that a red flag or that of a similar but less painful happening might have been enough.

Nietzsche wondered if pain and pleasure were two sides of the same coin. He used tickling as an example. As in, it's a confusion. But whatevs
It is only really painful to the weak of mind. They deserve it.
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06-30-2020 , 10:04 AM
I'ts a fair question. I'd take my hand off the stove if it was half as painful as it probably is. Or if instead if it tickled me.
The funny bone is an interesting one also if you think about it.
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06-30-2020 , 01:32 PM
Then you ought bring yourself to feel those things less keenly.
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08-22-2020 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
https://wmpeople.wm.edu/asset/index/.../nagelmindbody

The mind-body problem has no doubt been discussed here before, but I don't remember it, and in this thread I'd like some answers. Specifically, if no amount of scientific observation of the brain processes that occur when eating chocolate can determine what chocolate tastes like, what is to be inferred about the relationship between the mental and the physical?
Nagel's basic conclusion is that there is no prospect in sight for reducing the mental to the physical.
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08-25-2020 , 04:09 PM
We will get there. Wouldn't necessarily call it "reducing" though.
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08-26-2020 , 03:34 AM
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Maybe Mr. Spock could do a Vulcan mind melt in your mouth not in your hand.


PairTheBoard
Sorry to stray off-topic here, but I'm curious why you sign your posts with the username that is already attached to them.
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08-26-2020 , 12:31 PM
Not that I like to continue the off-topic line, but Mason signs too.
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09-01-2020 , 01:58 PM
I like chocolate
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09-16-2020 , 09:35 AM
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We will get there. Wouldn't necessarily call it "reducing" though.
Whatever "it" is, if it's not reduction it's not what Nagel is talking about.
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10-26-2020 , 04:27 AM
The last time I ate chocolate was 2 months ago, and my attending doctor told me that it is best not to eat any chocolate food, and to quit high-calorie foods.
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11-13-2020 , 06:52 PM
Interesting take on the issue:

http://www.thomashofweber.com/wp-con...l-idealism.pdf
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Conceptual Idealism Without Ontological Idealism
Why Idealism Is True After All


1. Idealism: The Basic Idea
In this essay I hope to outline a somewhat neglected version of idealism and an argument for why it is correct. The outlined version of idealism is in certain ways much more demanding than standard versions of idealism in that it holds that not just minds in general, but our human minds in particular are central to reality. The outlined argument aims to establish this via the somewhat unusual route of considerations about our own language. By thinking about language we can see, I’ll argue, that we are central to reality. This should seem somewhat absurd in two ways: First, how could we slightly complicated arrangements of molecules in a vast universe be central for all of reality? Maybe a divine mind or all-pervasive mentality or the like is central for reality, but how could our small human minds be? Second, how could one hope to argue for such a thing with considerations about our own language? How could one hope to establish a metaphysical conclusion like idealism from considerations simply about our own language? Considerations about language only seem to show how we aim to represent reality, but not what reality is like in the end. These are appropriate first reactions, of course, but nonetheless, I hope to make clear that idealism so understood can be defended in just this way.
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