Right.

When you look at pi you see that eventually a collection of numbers creates something meaningful.

https://youtu.be/WHho3_ZRKZ0

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The irrationality of Pi never enters into the Physics actually. The very assumptions of circular shapes and the necessary for calculus rules continuity break down eventually. The irrational numbers that are all over physics equations are approximation of the truth actually that make calculations reasonable easy, at least before a stronger synthesis.

Do you hear Yani or Laurel?





Yani - Laurel explained






PairTheBoard

i'm hearing laurel on my computer. however, when i saw the clip on television i heard yanny

I heard the word - Beer*.






*Ok, not really; I heard Laurel. The video has it spelled Laural but it sounds more el-ish.

That is a good story. But not as good as your massage parlor thread/stories (NYC and LA) in some other poker forum from long ago when you yakked it up about your younger adventures. That was the nuts. Saw some reference/link to it recently. Fantastic read.

Glad to know that you enjoyed them. All stories guaranteed accurate!

Scottish accurate or Jewish accurate?

Link or face the consequences of women and tilted poker players not coming after you for harassment lol

Meanwhile, in reality, pi has any number of finite descriptions, some of which are used to determine its potentially infinite decimal expansion to a zillion decimal places.

Challenge; find your own expansion of Pi that is fast enough (ok basically 10-20 digits within reasonable effort) and not on wikipedia lol.

Counterchallenge; Find the slowest possible convergence to Pi you can imagine lol. Like after 10^100 terms its correct to 3 digits lol.


The problems is that in physics Pi is irrelevant in its irrationality (ie safe to say nothing changes if you do not care for what happens after the 100th digit) because circles eventually break down and calculus is just an approximation of the real world.

Then so is the 101st digit of 0.33... irrelevant. Your point concerns accuracy rather than irrationality.

It's also delicious with or without whipped cream.

Its deeper than that. The 1/3 may be exact in principle. You could have for example 3 families of leptons. It could be that charges like 2/3e or 1/3e for quarks are exactly that ratio.

It only goes to accuracy if the theories using the rationals mix with irrational calculations from calculus and other places that assume structures that are not exact in the real world like the Pythagorean distance formulae etc. The whole Pi game may break down at the 40th digit even or earlier conceptually if you cant have a circle that accurate existing in anything fundamental. If you have 3 kinds of things though that is permanent not a matter of rounding.

I gave Mat my Hat……






He looked so good in it that he gave it back.






Brian is pregnant; it is a mystery who is the father......








Brian gave a short and illustrative lecture, during dinner, on the unique composition, usefulness, and size of his own brain. It explains a lot, including why he is pregnant.



That is all I can remember clearly.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...A/Kja_xd9K0CgJ

You are one messy eater, Brian.

We should all meet for real and eat messy foods together, drink beer, play poker with some cameras and telescope-camera combos structure tournament for top 3 winners and fight about irrationality, continuity and statistics of sub 5 sample - data sets lol!

Here comes the movie version... ;-)

The time I single handedly faced down a gang of terrifying, vicious criminals.

The time I paid a witch $500.

There are more itt:

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I wonder if an alien intelligence might think along the lines of distribution theory as their primary mathematical concept rather than numbers. Could they thereby develop another kind of mathematics from that primary concept that never even touches on use of numbers?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_(mathematics)
"Distribution theory reinterprets functions as linear functionals acting on a space of test functions."


PairTheBoard

I’ve definitly pivoted towards this line of thinking due to lack of counterexamples. Let me ask this, instead of circles how about waves? I can imagine a photon with the dual electric and magnetic waves carving pi perfectly whether it’s transformed or stretched

As others have observed (Mat, Zeno, my woman, everyone else), I don't actually eat. I drink. I am also skilled at pushing items on a plate around in order to try to fit in when people order things like "entrees" and "appetizers."

The potato on the fork was after a heated argument where someone claimed that they didn't believe that I was actually capable of eating. Not, as it were, capable of eating at that moment, but capable of eating in general. I demonstrated that I could, in fact, eat people food.* My woman was impressed with my efforts.

I'm mostly concerned with the state of the world. Someone stole the sunglasses that I stole for Zeno.

As a small aside and in the general direction of the silly conversation going on elsewhere in this fine thread, I, for one, don't mind irrational numbers. Or irrational women.

I do have a strong preference for my x-somes to be rational, however. BTM's conjecture is that all proper x-somes are rational. I'll scribble a hint at the proof in the margin of my will.


*three days in the special hospital to have the evil stuff removed from my gut, but definitely qualifies me as capable of eating human food

Waves that are solutions to Maxwell's wave equations or any wave equation to be fair are by definition calculus products (differential equations and Fourier theory the same) that rely on the unit circle to prove the derivative rules etc ie they are just again circles and their games are eternally connected to those ideas of infinite precision in geometry.

Of course its hard to imagine a world where calculus is the approximation and not the true theory. But the breakthrough is precisely that. If one can come up with math now that replaces calculus and eg metric functions as some special limit or corrects calculus on the extreme math that you see theory problems/divergences etc and makes the calculations of calculus less wrong in the extremes or finds a completely new way to do complete calculations or even forces computers to do them differently, that would be something.

I think it is what is coming.