How about smartening up and not taking strikes in the most useful part of your body! Which also helps guide to glory the second most important part as well lol!

If the mfing world we live in had any guts it would in united front declare to this ahole in North Korea that either he stops the threats and tests and keeps what he has or they all move into him to take him out and they do not care if he launches everything he has to every direction because we will all shoot all rockets we ever have to stop the strikes and then take 1000 conventional mega bomb strikes to his entire industrial and military centers followed by full invasion and even nuclear strikes on big targets. The planet can handle just fine superpowers having such weapons but not idiotic unstable countries.

If we have to suffer a few losses so be it to make a point to everyone that we are willing to put the stop to the madness and we wont let it escalate to way worse outcomes.

I would also move to assassinate this mfer kim John Un. You can do that if you want. All you have to do is pick all his pictures in the media and all his associates there identified and paint them all and start observing all of them together and using AI systems to locate him through his associates and their movements. Endless agents can be already inside its no big deal to have great cover for years. Individuals can be painted with hacked devices (even their glasses or shoes) on them and followed. Then start delivering lethal strikes on all of them one after the other or use them to locate his movements.

PairTheBoard

Drop a few thousand Ninjas, take control of the vital centers, snatch Kim, install Puppet, announce to the country they have a new Great Leader. New Great Leader orders all forces to stand down.


PairTheBoard

Do nothing, have "tea".

It's not as easy to kill people as you think. Multiple presidents and other groups have failed to get Castro for example. It's counterintuitive that US intelligence couldn't just know where someone is and kill them. But it doesn't work like that. It is actually possible to secure someone.

masque, are you prepared to have that many people killed? Hope Bruce haven't had a bad influence.

To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.

If we discourage combat sports, we must also discourage https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l/nfl-cte.html American Football. Add in rugby, ice hockey, etc. and what sort of boring world are we trying to have around here.

Perhaps our descendants will look back at how brutal our sports were in the same way we look down on Romans for feeding Christians to lions. I think it's more likely though sports will be played using AI surrogates using brain-computer interfacing or virtual reality so that the player takes no physical damage at all, while being immersed in the sport. The player should be a one-to-one match to their surrogate in physique, cardio etc so it's not totally mental.

I think it's more likely yet, we won't be around for much longer. As modern humans we have been around for about the same time a successful species has ever lasted 100,000 years. Nuclear weapons, advances in genetically-engineering bio weapons, AI, drones, privacy approaching zero. Climate. We are doomed.

In vino veritas - Doc Holliday.

Kidnap and clone Denis Rodman. Obtain Kim's fingerprint and have it self-destruct on a handshake.

Is blasphemy a secular or religious topic the most? Asking for the presumed damned.

Multiculturalism is great, interesting, exciting and beautiful.
Why?
Because cultures differ and for many subjective reasons I could but won't go into.
Why do cultures differ then?
Because they have been isolated from one another.
Hmm.

Perhaps one culture, one ethnicity, one language, all encompassing the best of the best is the end game. I don't know.

I miss the Hittites.


PairTheBoard

International relations: where empty threats and empty promises achieve change.

"I am speaking to you from the Cabinet Room at 10, Downing Street.

This morning the British Ambassador in Berlin Nevile Henderson handed the German Government a final note stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock, that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, that a state of war would exist between us.

I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.

You can imagine what a bitter blow it is to me that all my long struggle to win peace has failed. Yet I cannot believe that there is anything more or anything different that I could have done and that would have been more successful.

Up to the very last it would have been quite possible to have arranged a peaceful and honourable settlement between Germany and Poland, but Hitler would not have it.

He had evidently made up his mind to attack Poland whatever happened; and although he now says he put forward reasonable proposals which were rejected by the Poles, that is not a true statement.

The proposals were never shown to the Poles nor to us; and though they were announced in a German broadcast on Thursday night, Hitler did not wait to hear comments on them, but ordered his troops to cross the Polish frontier the next morning.

His action shows convincingly that there is no chance of expecting that this man will ever give up his practice of using force to gain his will. He can only be stopped by force, and we and France are today, in fulfilment of our obligations, going to the aid of Poland, who is so bravely resisting this wicked and unprovoked attack upon her people. We have a clear conscience. We have done all that any country could do to establish peace. The situation in which no word given by Germany’s ruler could be trusted and no people or country could feel itself safe has become intolerable.

And now that we have resolved to finish it, I know that you will all play your part with calmness and courage.

At such a moment as this the assurances of support that we have received from the Empire are a source of profound encouragement to us.

When I have finished speaking certain detailed announcements will be made on behalf of the Government. Give these your closest attention.

The Government have made plans under which it will be possible to carry on the work of the nation in the days of stress and strain that may be ahead. But these plans need your help.

You may be taking part in the fighting Services or as a volunteer in one of the branches of civil defence. If so you will report for duty in accordance with the instructions you have received.

You may be engaged in work essential to the prosecution of war for the maintenance of the life of the people – in factories, in transport, in public utility concerns or in the supply of other necessaries of life. If so, it is of vital importance that you should carry on with your jobs.

Now may God bless you all. May He defend the right. It is the evil things that we shall be fighting against – brute force, bad faith, injustice, oppression and persecution – and against them I am certain that the right will prevail."

I am prepared (i mean in my way of thinking if others agreed to that way and we did it together as a country) to dictate when they are killed and for what noble purpose including myself so as not to have aholes hold the planet hostage to their idiotic pursuit of domination. If it is well designed there wont be great many victims and the gain for N Korea will be a unification eventually. They will win and we lose to cancer , heart disease and other things nobody cares many millions each year anyway.

The US and any superpowers should never attack any country that behaves properly even if they are opponents and disagreeing because it is their right to be different and compete.

But the moment comes that when you allow him to become more powerful, because his regime is precisely the kind it is and the country is not a superpower or very big country that stands to lose a ton of value like Russia or China or India or even Pakistan, you approach a situation where he can destroy so much more.

The effort to defeat ICBMs is a very difficult game. If it was easy Trump would have already ordered to strike down all his test launches just to pi$$ him off.

The detonation of H-Bomb is a problem that one has to draw the line to. A nuclear strike Hiroshima style can destroy a city center and some greater area like say 10x 9/11 damage. But a megaton order detonation or more 10 M eventually if you let him get where he wants to be, will be able to take out a huge part of a major city like NY or LA or Chicago or Houston or San Francisco or create environmental damage to entire states and countries if it targets the right nuclear reactors and industrial centers.

He can easily give the weapons to terrorists eventually too.

The problem with him is that he has precisely the type of personality that will eventually go for it very often because he wants to be the one that did it to US.

He is not building a protection for his system. Nobody would just invade to take him out if he was cool and rational and simply lived in his communist totalitarian bs world without insults and risks to others.

Nobody did anything to N Korea for 60 years. That is precisely the problem actually. If you can avoid war you avoid it though. Therefore i do not rush to blame the previous administrations. All the risks he is seeing and talks about are in his mind and it is there because he is a magalomaniac. But unlike Trump he is not at all worried if the country goes to hell and all die for him to have that one strike to US. Look what he did to his brother and uncle.

He is not behaving like a rational player that says gentlemen i will never attack you first and you have my promise that i am only defending myself if attacked. I demand nothing from you other than not to attack me and i will never assist any terrorist groups because i respect international law and my intention is to focus on my economy.

This guy is very dangerous and will go for it when he can or when cornered eventually or when near death. So it has now become a matter of actually removing that ability from him. It is that simple. But it is also a teaching moment for all mankind. We need that moment. That yes one should draw such lines in the sand and go for it because the alternative is a lot worse eventually.

In the cold war both sides cared for their own people eventually. You just cannot simply write off Russia. Its a huge country. Same for US. Too much value in both systems. What value is in N Korea if it is wiped out? Does he behave like someone who cares for his people? It is a worthy loss for him if the cost for US is its economy and loss of major cities and industrial centers to nearly irreversible environmental damage. He will go for it. He will design and develop more efficient death delivery systems.

A nuclear strike cannot destroy you. But 100 strikes at majors cities and critical chemical factories and nuclear reactors will destroy half the country. Such risk is unacceptable for a superpower. Conditional very well calculated and designed first move is the correct choice. The alternative is the perfect icbm kill system technology. Either we do that or draw the line.

But it is such asymmetrical game eventually that even if we have ICMB kill technology he will find other ways to deliver it. Plus developing one forces the others to develop more lethal delivery systems. Its a lose lose endgame unless new unreal innovation technology can neutralize nuclear strikes by anyone instantly.


Any year you allow him to perfect his icmb and megaton size arsenal capabilities given the current orgasmic pace of progress is a year closer to losing 10-20 cities in a strike. When you are in his position and can destroy a superpower and its countryside with plenty of radiation you will do it 95% of the time just because its the greatest victory for his legacy.

It is very sad to me to come to this realization. This is why actually regime change or assassination and then regime change is the proper choice to avoid war. We are fighting here a mfing family of irrational people not a line of communist leaders that cared for their people. It is a big difference. He will go for it if you let him. Yes he will. Everyone like that would do the same. When you have little to lose and can write history like that you can go for it a lot more often than rational people that care for their country. Its the ultimate moment of payback for the country that developed nuclear weapons in his mind. And the sad truth is that Russia and China thoroughly enjoy this moment because it is their creation. This is why MacArthur should have been allowed to end this bs back then. When you have war you better have it properly.

Why the megaton thermonuclear level range becomes a problem;


Effects Explosive yield / height of burst
1 kt / 200 m 20 kt / 540 m 1 Mt / 2.0 km 20 Mt / 5.4 km
Blast—effective ground range GR / km
Urban areas completely levelled (20 psi or 140 kPa) 0.2 0.6 2.4 6.4
Destruction of most civilian buildings (5 psi or 34 kPa) 0.6 1.7 6.2 17
Moderate damage to civilian buildings (1 psi or 6.9 kPa) 1.7 4.7 17 47
Railway cars thrown from tracks and crushed
(62 kPa; values for other than 20 kt are extrapolated using the cube-root scaling) ≈0.4 1.0 ≈4 ≈10
Thermal radiation—effective ground range GR / km
Conflagration 0.5 2.0 10 30
Third degree burns 0.6 2.5 12 38
Second degree burns 0.8 3.2 15 44
First degree burns 1.1 4.2 19 53
Effects of instant nuclear radiation—effective slant range1 SR / km
Lethal2 total dose (neutrons and gamma rays) 0.8 1.4 2.3 4.7
Total dose for acute radiation syndrome2 1.2 1.8 2.9 5.4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect...ear_explosions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon

example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B83_nuclear_bomb

Also bad influence is the least i would imagine resulting from knowing Bruce.

In fact recently he linked me to

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-earth/528717/

that suggests to do nothing and letting it be, may prove the best of bad choices.

It's the natural result of cucks in charge.

As soon as the US got the bomb, they should have demanded that no country would be allowed to have it. And that any nuclear test detected anywhere in the world, any bomb building program detected, would result in the nuking of a top 5 city in that country. Since you can't build a reliable bomb without testing it many times, no one else would have gotten the bomb.

Instead we created a world that nearly annihilated itself at some tense moments, and partly or maybe wholly didn't because of luck. Was that a better outcome?\

Same thing should have happened with this moron/his father. He should have been warned back in 2008 that the next ballistic missile or nuclear test would result in all out war until the entire leadership of NK was in the ground. Instead, cucks were in charge, and they paid the guy money instead which helped develop his nuclear program.

You can be sure other nasty countries and individuals are watching as well. When Kim has hundreds of nuclear weapons, why wouldn't he sell them for a few billion each? He's proven that blackmail works.

Nice, very nice link (read all of it). We need Bruce to get on board, so be it as a gimmick.

He's the type of guy who may save the world, even with his shortcomings.

Interesting to see Masque and Trump in agreement on how to handle the Korea situation.

You agree Bruce does it better this time?

It's pure drivel with hyperbole, false statements and inflated estimates. The guy is filling your brain up with nonsense. Here's a non-loser explaining it to you rationally.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/03/11...flatten-seoul/

Even forgetting the above, Seoul is more than prepared for an artillery barrage. It has 15,000 shelters. The "millions dead" in South Korea is pure fantasy. It'll be tens of thousands, maybe, if he goes all out.

Even a nuclear blast would not kill that many. Low yield, non air burst nuclear weapons just don't do that much damage.

Anyway, on this whole topic, one of two things are true.

Either Kim Jong is rational and wants to maintain his grip on power/save his life, in which case you can strike all his nuclear and chemical facilities and he won't dare strike back in force and open up full scale war. You might not get every bomb, but you can get most and you can certainly stop production of missiles and nuclear weapons.

Or he is not rational and will go to all out war if his facilities are attacked. In which case, as much death as it will cause, he's best destroyed now (or 8 years ago). He's a young man and unlikely to die soon. He controls and suppresses the lives of 20 million people. Once his arsenal is sufficient, he will probably try to get sanctions lifted using nuclear blackmail (it would be actually be nuts to attack him when he has 100 nuclear ICBMs that work properly, rather than 0 or 1), or sell them for billions each. And he will probably want to take South Korea - reunification and final victory is a long term goal since 1960 for these guys. Who would dare stand in his way? All the reasoning now for not attacking will be 100x stronger when he has the power to wipe out LA or NY with multiple hydrogen bombs on ICBMs.

To not take him down now only means more pain. Koreans are not like Iraqis - there aren't centuries old ethnic troubles or warring factions of a wacko jacko religion with an even crazier binary religious divide. Once liberated, you'll see peace. The cancer isn't malignant here like it is in the Middle East.

I used to get The Atlantic and Economist magazines along with a few others but purged myself of them and all others a number of years ago. If I want relevant, front-page news - I read History.

The remark above that Mr. Kim has proved blackmail works is as vacuous as it is silly. Since the human ape descended from the trees and began roaming about in packs of bipedal hominids, blackmail has proved an efficient method of social control and group interaction and coercion. It works quite well from the personal level all the way up the human hierarchy to priests, kings, emperors, and nations. We have perfected it to a real art. One of our most enduring accomplishments.