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08-05-2017 , 02:15 AM
No Stanford in Greece.
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08-05-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
I miss Pittsburgh
I would miss it too. But it still is in your mind and a trip away.
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08-05-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
The crippling economic conditions?
It was just fine when i left.

Economic conditions present opportunity actually. Merkel of course wanted the firesale.

I always wanted to leave by the way. I had to visit my friend;



I want to leave earth too by the way in case you havent noticed.

The big game is out there.

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08-05-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
It was just fine when i left.

Economic conditions present opportunity actually. Merkel of course wanted the firesale.
Pittsburgh's economic conditions have improved since I left. I don't blame anyone. Greece's economic conditions would have also improved if Greece were stronger than a small German lady.
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08-05-2017 , 02:30 AM
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Pittsburgh's economic conditions have improved since I left. I don't blame anyone. Greece's economic conditions would have also improved if Greece were stronger than a small German lady.
It is stronger. Wait for it.
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08-05-2017 , 07:01 AM
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lol? Greece is one of the world's worst jokes when it comes to thinking. They were great once 2000 years ago. Now they're lazy, corrupt, produce little of worth, and to drive the dagger home, have an unhealthy dose of unearned pride, which conspires to stop them fixing their manifest errors and incapacities. Greece needs more American thinking and less Greek thinking, not the other way around. For real.
Apparently you are a piece of $hit racist arent you if this is how you see me or the people there in general given the bs of recent politics there?
Again, we're talking about cultural tendencies and philosophies,not race. Greece (the country) has an extremely sick culture, which despite their natural riches, means they have to go with the begging bowl to Merkel, or have their society collapse into the third world.

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Then how do you explain the rank 12 in recent International Math Olympics especially given the small population and above all other EU countries (UK is out lol)

https://www.imo-official.org/year_co...aspx?year=2017
Hah? What do math olympiad ranks have to do with cultural traits of laziness, love of socialism, overweening pride (stopping them from fixing the manifest errors), and corruption? Is this an example of Greek reasoning? You're not putting a good face forward, dude.

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Merkel Credentials lol.

Are you even sure Merkel remembers how to do Calculus 3 (just for fun lol) or even understands General Relativity? Can she solve some interesting Geometry problems even? I dont think that this is what happens and you then go to politics the way she did in the place she did it.
Merkel is a brillaint and highly accomplished woman. I think she's a vile person and a very destructive leader, but downplaying her credentials is just lol. I would bet on her to best both you and me and in most tests of intelligence.

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Look how you even talked about the people in a lecture at Stanford. Wow what pathetic way to describe people that may not be "beautiful" looking. Is that how serious people judge others?
No, but it's telling. The physicists of the past were normal human beings. Now the field seems to attract mostly outcasts. You were the one trying to use peple like Einstein and Feynman to boost the cred of today's physicists, who I said would not make good leaders.
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08-05-2017 , 07:04 AM
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No i dont. This is the new generation. The one that can still give the finger to crisis. Good luck to them in a dirty world that is worth fighting for though.
What is this is bull**** about "giving the finger to the crisis"? Greek pride, and blaming others for the problems that they themselves caused, are the very reason they have the problems they do. Germany is their savior, not their punisher - Greece would be even more ****ed than it is now without baskets of German charity.

They don't need to "give the finger to the crisis". They need to accept that they suck, that their culture is sick, elect people who will actually work to fix it, and then work hard and pay their taxes and STFU and stop blaming others. But they don't want to do that. Because like you, they believe it's all someone else's fault.
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08-05-2017 , 09:36 AM
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I have taken quantum chemistry though if you want to take things there and can still do just fine perturbation theory in such systems.
Wrong.

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I never said her credentials are a joke by the way. Wtf is going on with you? Are you serious? Where did you read that? Making things up again as always.
Right here.

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Merkel Credentials lol.
TS pointed out that she has impressive credentials and you spazzed out about how she was born in East Germany. Then you went off on some poppycock silliness about classical Greece.
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08-05-2017 , 09:51 AM
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Where I can meet Taylor Swift so that I can become her next 3 month boyfriend.
Failing that, winning Powerball numbers, tia.
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At my age, yes.
You're a super cool guy. I have no doubt you get yourself a 27yo Taylor Swift lookalike if you decided to put the effort in. And have the girl be happy. Those strong hot types often don't mind older men anyway, when the older men have a good heart like you seem to.
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08-05-2017 , 12:48 PM
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You're a super cool guy. I have no doubt you get yourself a 27yo Taylor Swift lookalike if you decided to put the effort in. And have the girl be happy. Those strong hot types often don't mind older men anyway, when the older men have a good heart like you seem to.
Wow! Thanks a lot for the kind words! I HAVE lost 45 lbs w/ more to go! TBH, there's a ~50 y.o. waitress at Talking Stick that I've been eyeing. If I get more gorgeous I might make my move.
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08-05-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Wrong.



Right here.



TS pointed out that she has impressive credentials and you spazzed out about how she was born in East Germany. Then you went off on some poppycock silliness about classical Greece.
No you got it wrong because you are a dildo as always. I didnt say lol at her credentials as in looking down at them. I said lol at the desire to make a credentials challenge with a person that gave up on their science exactly the way it happened. He doesnt have what it takes to make such comparison without knowing in details either person. In fact he has no evidence of her doing any science in front of him and he has about me. So yes Facking lol again at the bs usage of credentials.

The thing about communism and not east Germany is something i remain convinced about. Communism alters the way people perceive the world and destroys their spirit. Merkel has a very nasty way of thinking that costs Europe and it is because of their collective cynicism.
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08-05-2017 , 03:00 PM
TS i have one basic thing to say to you and your simplistic reasoning about Greece. Go f yourself and bring your buddy Trump along. Invite Merkel as well that can teach you a few things but still will make good company.

Now off for the rest of the day to prove lazy while working to improve the world lol. How much work have you done this week by the way?
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08-05-2017 , 05:35 PM
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TS i have one basic thing to say to you and your simplistic reasoning about Greece. Go f yourself and bring your buddy Trump along.
So if it's not culture, why are Greece in the situation they're in? You believe they are naturally intelligent and talented. Let's say I grant you that's true.

Why do the Greeks need to have German charity if they are so awesome? Why is the rest of Europe wiping the floor with them? They certainly don't lack resources. You claim they think well and are intelligent. So why? You can't use culture because you claim that the Greeks could teach Americans a thing or two. So why?
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Now off for the rest of the day to prove lazy while working to improve the world lol. How much work have you done this week by the way?
I do nothing. I've fully embraced the Greek mentality.
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08-05-2017 , 07:38 PM
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I didnt say lol at her credentials as in looking down at them. I said lol at the desire to make a credentials challenge with a person that gave up on their science exactly the way it happened.
You're incoherent.

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In fact he has no evidence of her doing any science in front of him and he has about me.
she. was. a. professor. of. quantum. chemistry.

She has publications; go look them up if you want "evidence of her doing any science."

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Communism alters the way people perceive the world and destroys their spirit. Merkel has a very nasty way of thinking that costs Europe and it is because of their collective cynicism.
I guess you would have thought Einstein had lolcredentials because he grew up in pre-war Germany. Just amazing.

The Greeks ran up an unsustainable debt and lied about their finances and now they want to get pissy at Merkel for cutting up their credit cards. They got 10x the bailout the Germans got under the Marshall Plan and Greece is still a hot mess. Greece should try to be more like Germany, frankly.
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08-06-2017 , 12:20 AM
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I can add more evidence of the superiority of the Pittsburgher to the rest of humanity once I have rested.
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Please do. You forgot the Whiskey Rebels.
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08-06-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Please do. You forgot the Whiskey Rebels.
I don't want to make people from other regions feel bad about their lack of history...
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08-06-2017 , 05:05 AM
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You're incoherent.



she. was. a. professor. of. quantum. chemistry.

She has publications; go look them up if you want "evidence of her doing any science."



I guess you would have thought Einstein had lolcredentials because he grew up in pre-war Germany. Just amazing.

The Greeks ran up an unsustainable debt and lied about their finances and now they want to get pissy at Merkel for cutting up their credit cards. They got 10x the bailout the Germans got under the Marshall Plan and Greece is still a hot mess. Greece should try to be more like Germany, frankly.
No she wasnt a professor. Read again. Not that being a professor anywhere means anything serious these days necessarily. It all depends on whether you are good or willing to do whatever it takes. You have to know which it is.

Papers by multiple authors do not prove anything on any tangible way. You do have evidence of me solving problems though here alone. I never made any comparison by the way. TS did that without any evidence. And in some highly specialized fields papers are a lot easier to produce by the way. This is why people go that way, not because they suddenly fell in love with the super specialized topics. Its a safer career choice. They likely will never change any scientific paradigm typically without this meaning to look down at the service by those that work in less ambitious projects properly (but to suggest the motives instead for picking such topics are not that clean always).

The decision to leave the research is more important than the topic itself. I have respect for the study of chemistry at a deeply quantum mechanical level with various levels of perturbation theory methods that can uncover properties in reactions that may prove very useful for applications and lead to optimization. Its unlikely to lead to understanding QM though.


You 2 or 3 guys here show profound lack of understanding of what happened in Greece.

The vast majority of debt is derivatives based and interest based. The real money borrowed is fraction of the actual debt. It didnt exactly go to the avg person's pocket. There was a lot of mismanagement too. But of course you all loved the 2004 games.

You dare compare with Marshall plan. What a joke! The Marshall plan was not debt relaxation. It was real money to the level of 116 bil $ today that was invested in actual recovery of a country with real rebuilding. That can yield 10x its value over time. Nothing like that happened with Greece. In fact the avg person lost from this a ton of money and businesses closed and nobody came in to invest in the future. So f you for being so simplistic making such comparisons with partially fictitious in ethical terms debt.

Who the f*ck ever calculated the disaster Germany caused to Greece in WW2 and even recent times with the common currency and the business it was doing inside Greece taking from the people their money in terms of products sold there but no creation of progress generating jobs locally. Yes if you can borrow at stupid rates and the others have to borrow at 5-10%more then what exactly you expect to happen if you also technologically dominate the production of goods? Who were the unfriendly neighbors of Germany that would have it spend a ton for defense for example for decades?

Tell me again how do you begin to evaluate the damage Merkel and the prime time mfer Wolfgang Schäuble and all their petty satellites are causing for years now to Greece with the failed austerity process and forced dismantling of a society held hostage from month to month in a permanent condition of uncertainty for any new investments there. When a system is screwed up and requires proper fixing of many of its structural properties you demand only sensible austerity and at the same time you offer massive incentives for meeting goals in terms of true investment in the rebuilding of the economy. You ask for laws to be passed in exchange for tangible benefits in terms of job creation and investments in actual growth. Either this is a f*cking union that all matter to prosper or a new economic invasion equivalent to the nazi treatment of the past but done so superficially elegantly in "civilized terms" now as the other clueless people worldwide witness it away from its true consequences.

What the f is the value of 500k murders/famine deaths (over 8% of people) , the stealing of gold and other riches and forced labor and forced withdrawing of the wealth of a nation for 4 years but also the most important thing ,the creation of the conditions for a civil war that lasted many years till late 50s (during which Germany was rebuilding big time) and then the next 40 divided the country in a manner that destroyed any chance for unity and recovery as a nation with coherent planning. One government was undoing the work of the other. The left leading the march to disaster and the right failing to reach a common ground of social issues that would deprive the bastard socialists from destroying the system with simplistic populism. Sounds familiar to US in 2017 with the endless division and infighting and rise of populism?

The average Greek people are hard workers. My parents worked all their lives and still produce value and share with the community.

A giant mf you to all here that will ever dare again to call Greeks lazy collectively.

Read this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time

Average annual hours actually worked per worker
Rank Country Hours

1 Mexico 2,255
2 South Korea 2,069
3 Greece 2,035
4 Chile 1,974
5 Russia 1,974
6 Poland 1,928
7 Latvia 1,910
8 Israel 1,889
9 Iceland 1,883
10 Ireland 1,879
11 Estonia 1,855
12 Portugal 1,842
13 United States 1,783
14 Czech Republic 1,770
OECD average 1,763
15 Hungary 1,761
16 New Zealand 1,752
17 Slovak Republic 1,740
18 Italy 1,730
19 Japan 1,713
20 Canada 1,703
21 Spain 1,695
22 Slovenia 1,682
23 United Kingdom 1,676
24 Australia 1,669
25 Finland 1,653
26 Sweden 1,621
27 Austria 1,601
28 Switzerland 1,590
29 Belgium 1,541
30 Luxembourg 1,512
31 France 1,472
32 Netherlands 1,430
33 Norway 1,424
34 Denmark 1,410
35 Germany 1,363


My own personal avg is more like 2500 these days.

You didnt expect that did you?

There are many reasons for the failure of the economy. Populism style of Papandreou's pseudo socialism is one. The damage and bad habits for many was installed in the 80s. Of course there are massive failures by prior governments and a significant fraction of the population that are plain selfish mfers and who happen to decide elections too like they do here as well.

The bad habits of a country are also the result of lack of opportunity but also external negative influences and exploitation. This is what happens when the conditions to undermine proper design and organization in a society destroy optimism and confidence and lead people to a life of opportunistic survival without genuine investment in the future of the country.

And you cannot measure quality of life either by simplistic economic terms. Maybe people in Greece are happier at a level that others that are very healthy economically miss completely. Maybe historically they do not wish to exploit each other all the time (do not see what the crisis has caused now, look way back). Maybe they do not see building such type of wealth on the back of other weaker people as the objective of a society.

How many of you that dare to speak so shamelessly negatively for an entire country actually enjoyed the amazing value of free education my country gave me for years? I didnt have to pay a single $ for my undergraduate studies that are exceptionally good in quality compared to the classes i experienced in other countries (they compare just fine with Stanford or MIT or Caltech equivalent in undergraduate materials taught for example). What is the cost here for example for an undergraduate degree? And you get it for close to free in Greece if you pass the exams with good performance. How about healthcare?

What Greece missed for decades is a proper sustainable design to flourish in its own terms and with its own cultural virtues putting to proper long term growth trajectory the hard work of the avg person (embracing scientific design). Infighting will do that to a country. It will lead to endless brain drain to the other countries too. So learn the lesson and do not do the same here because the cost in US with such division will be even greater for the world as this social multicultural experiment here is too important to fail.

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08-06-2017 , 10:27 AM
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At school, she learned to speak Russian fluently, and was awarded prizes for her proficiency in Russian and Mathematics.[26] Merkel was educated at the University of Leipzig, where she studied physics from 1973 to 1978.[21][24] While a student, she participated in the reconstruction of the ruin of the Moritzbastei, a project students initiated to create their own club and recreation facility on campus. Such an initiative was unprecedented in the GDR of that period, and initially resisted by the University of Leipzig; however, with backing of the local leadership of the SED party, the project was allowed to proceed.[27]

Near the end of her studies at university of Leipzig, Merkel sought an assistant professorship at an engineering school. As a condition for getting the job, Merkel was told she would need to agree to report on her colleagues to the Stasi, GDR's secret police. Merkel declined, using the excuse that she could not keep secrets well enough to be an effective spy.[28] Merkel worked and studied at the Central Institute for Physical chemistry of the Academy of Sciences in Berlin-Adlershof from 1978 to 1990. After being awarded a doctorate (Dr. rer. nat.) for her thesis on quantum chemistry,[29] she worked as a researcher and published several papers.[30]
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08-06-2017 , 01:06 PM
It would take desperate measures for me to have sex with Merkel. But she is a Stout Survialist Bit*h and looks to take the next election and remain the Dominatrix of Europe.

German-election-2017-who-will-win-latest-polls-Angela-Merkel-Martin-Schulz-Germany

Germans just keep heaping up more piles of Gold.

germany-profits-from-greek-debt-crisis

For those interested, look at the stock price for the National Bank of Greece over the last decade. All the smart money probably exited to Albania or some other Balkan Wasteland. Or the Swiss snapped it up.
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08-06-2017 , 01:33 PM
$1bn in profits from hundreds of billions in aid money? If that was supposed to be a for-profit enterprise, she deserves to be sacked if that's the kind of ROI she's delivering.
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08-07-2017 , 12:54 AM
Our women aim for the sky too; Some get there and then take (2*4.91/9.81)^(1/2) + (second order air resistance and kick ass appeal corrections ) seconds to come down (she was local too in Palo alto here for while) !



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08-07-2017 , 01:34 AM
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Our women aim for the sky too...4.91 meters
Man what a joke. Men jump over a meter higher.

So according to you above, Greeks are a) highly intelligent b) hardworking and NOT lazy at all, c) have a culture that the Americans (who are #1, by the way) could learn from.

Yet they're one of Europe's poorest countries, and are on their knees in front of Merkel so their society doesn't collapse.

Something in your view of Greece and Greek culture is completely irrational.

P.S. Your hours worked per working person data is hilarious. The youth unemployment rate in Greece is 45%. Not lazy at all! Not lacking entrepreneurship or self discipline or initiaitve or a sense of responsibility at all in their culture; Americans could learn something from them.

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08-07-2017 , 01:55 AM
You miss the point eternally. Yes both can take the best from each other and learn from what doesnt work and what makes life worth living for also and create a better world. Enter scientific society. I left because there is something better out there. But it is not what you think it is.


Nice arguments that men jump higher. We produce more sperm too like 100% more. Yay! You lack a sense of humor i see and it adds to lack of respect for athletic effort which that lady is teaching everyone lessons about past few years worldwide. Do you have more like that? I could counter by saying that it's a better usage of energy per unit mass per meter of maximum height (since sport became legal in each sex) if you want to be nasty like that over petty details lol.

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08-07-2017 , 02:03 AM
What precisely could Americans (who are #1, by the way), learn from Greek culture? You're right, I don't get it.

a) Deeply felt, irrational, ethnic/cultural pride? That's the reason (plus the below) Greeks are in the hole they're in, and have never amounted to much.
b) Socialist ideals? As above

What to you is stereotypically Greek, that Americans need more of and can learn from? You've only spoken in broad generalities.

Congrats on leaving one culture for a better one, I always respect people who that.
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08-07-2017 , 02:26 AM
You can learn from all history a culture developed from ancient times to today. You can learn even from the mistakes one did. Do not make the mistake to compare individuals of present day as representative of the best ideals their place created in time.

1) They can learn to respect family and their parents more and keep in contact with them.
2) That there are more important things than money and quality of life of others is more important that profit from their suffering.
3) That there is a healthier way to eat.
4) That quantity over quality is wrong.
5) That virtue is wisdom. Education is more important than material possessions.
6) That you can only defeat an idea with a better idea not war always.
7) That endless infighting is significant opportunity loss.


I can go on forever but all you have to do is learn by how i behave to others for example. I never start fights or attack people like you do. You need to be a little more secure and less aggressive and cooperate more.

I am not here to compare one system with another. This is ridiculous. I am here because i believe one can improve towards the solution with better chance from here. But i bet we have better per student education at age 18 than the US has. First year students at Stanford in premed are worse on average in physics, math, chemistry and biology than those that pass the exams to enter medicine in Greece. Free undergraduate education to all people is a worthy choice for a society.

There is no we and you by the way only because you insisted. I will let you wonder where i have lived most of my life by now! I am both.

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