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02-12-2016 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob148
I'm not drunk but this seemed like the place to put this:

Does centrifugal force create gravitational waves or are gravitational waves only created by matter? In other words, is the gravity we experience when we go in circles artificial in the sense that there are no gravitational waves extending from a source of matter?
If you have a rotating frame it will appear as if you have a gravitational field in it and the metric (its geometry) will be a function of the angular velocity (like your perception of gravitational acceleration etc) .

If interested i can provide for you references of the treatment of going to a rotating reference frame and tying to observe the world from that perspective. I didnt find a proper link on the net yet but there is a treatment of this problem in the introduction to General Relativity by Adler, Bazin and Schiffer pg 120. If i get some online reference of this treatment i will update later.


Essentially what happens is you get a world that feels like you have gravity and there is also time dilation etc (as seen in special and general relativity). It feels as if you are under the gravitational field of eg earth but its not exactly the same because you can perform experiments to find out that the field is a bit different than the radial field of earth and its dependence with height is different etc.


What we perceive as gravitational waves cannot exist in that system if the angular velocity w is fixed (but they can exist if we have masses in that rotating system doing various movements lol although the amplitude of the waves would be ridiculously small ). However in principle if w can be manipulated and be a complicated function of time i dont see why its not almost possible to be confused and feel a spacetime that has perturbations in it that propagate and appear like gravitational waves passing through your perceived earth like main gravity space. It would be very complicated to reproduce the form but it could happen i think. Of course doing that non uniform angular velocity rotation requires energy and obscene manipulation of its time dependence it would seem. It may not be entirely possible to confuse someone very careful though willing to make multiple measurements. But it is in principle possible to make the space-time locally appear as if it is vibrating like what it does when a wave passes.

Typically gravitational waves are produced in general relativity when you have accelerated motion of masses and energy sources.

I cannot necessarily imagine how w would be changing in time to replicate all the properties of a traveling metric perturbation wave like that reported today with the dependence it has from the distance of the source etc. But you can have examples of perturbations that are propagating in that system if you manipulate w properly.

Keep in mind that even in our own real gravity earth system (which is also rotating anyway but its not the main effect) we do not have gravitational waves because of earth itself in our frame. If one was observing the solar system from a distance they would be seeing gravitational waves due to the rotation of earth around the sun but again they are tiny and almost impossible to detect. So you do not have gravitational waves every time you have gravity. It depends on other things happening too. Basically whatever is happening is affecting the spacetime geometry as function of time and the geometric disturbance traveling out is a gravitational wave.

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02-12-2016 , 04:09 AM
Shortly said: I'm looking for the universally relevant things in life. I scan through my 80 TV channels, and find one with a (supposedly) universally relevant scene. Genuine, if you will. Then I continue the scanning and thinking.

The half attempts will not do, because my life span is limited. They will get only five seconds before I hit the remote. Have to admit I recognize BS faster than before, even if getting older, and my neurons working slower on average! Will not ride on this wave very long

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02-12-2016 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Shortly said: I'm looking for the universally relevant things in life.
Music is a good starting point. It brings together mathematics, pussy (an astounding combination by itself when you think about it), physical movement, precision, dexterity, entertainment, emotion and intellect, all played out as a string of one-time graffiti that can only be read in the fourth dimension.
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02-12-2016 , 09:59 PM
The yearly Great Backyard Bird Count is taking place: Join in the fun if you feel inclined to do so -

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Note there is no limit on the amount of alcohol consumed during counting.
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02-13-2016 , 01:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

I saw a bird of prey take on some song birds just the other day. Everyone survived the encounter. The hawk went straight in from a tree in my yard 100 yards at the same elevation to the nest area in my neighbor's bushes and had a good shot at some bird chow IMO. But those little birds starting moving like it was a dance party!

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02-13-2016 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
The yearly Great Backyard Bird Count is taking place: Join in the fun if you feel inclined to do so -

About-great-backyard-bird-count

Note there is no limit on the amount of alcohol consumed during counting.
Last time I drank heavily and did this, I seemed to upset them with my report.

1 Sandhill crane, 3 hummingbirds, 8 pidgins, 2 peterdactyls.
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02-13-2016 , 09:08 PM
I had already considered including one cockatrice in my report. It turned me to stone.
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02-14-2016 , 01:55 PM
City of Zalec in Slovenia is building a Beer Fountain:

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From above link:

Beer is part of life in Zalec. It is set in the Lower Savinja Valley, which has been called the ‘valley of green gold’ thanks to the abundance of hops used in brewing.


With a six-figure cost, the fountain will be funded by the town and private donations after the plans were approved by two-thirds of council members at a meeting last week.

Planning began in 2013 and the town has already set aside €170,000 (£134,000 or $193,000) for the project. It is not known when it will be completed.

Located about 35 miles north-east of the capital of Ljubljana, the town of Zalec has a population of about 5,000 while the wider municipality is home to about 20,000.

Councillors borrowed the idea for a beer fountain from the town of Rogaska Slatina which has a fountain that spurts free mineral water for hotel guests.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

In case you don't believe it:

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Zalec, a small town in Slovenia, is planning to build a fountain that spurts out drinkable beer.

The fountain will dispense a variety of local beers, with visitors invited to pay six euros for three 30cl drinks served in a commemorative mug.

Costing an estimated €350,000 to build, local councillors hope the fountain will become a popular attraction and increase tourism in the region, known for its hop plantations.


$$$$$$$$$$$

Excellent.

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02-14-2016 , 02:16 PM
In other news: Arsenal beat Leicester City 2 - 1 and The Tottering Hams beat the Man City Maggots by the same score 2 - 1. Synchronicity.
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02-14-2016 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Synchronicity.
Yes, but the karmic forces involved are polar opposites. A sure sign of a glitch in the matrix.
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02-14-2016 , 06:50 PM
The experience continues. Still no sign of any particular man behind the curtain. I'm barely drunk yet, but other current influences in life inspires me to send you all some valentines like it was elementary school, but this is it.
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02-14-2016 , 07:14 PM
Go Norf London.

What sick ********s decided valentine's day was the day for a ODI and 2 such massive football games. Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
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02-14-2016 , 07:28 PM
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I'm barely drunk yet, but other current influences in life inspires me to send you all some valentines like it was elementary school, but this is it.
Is this conditional or unconditional?
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02-14-2016 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Is this conditional or unconditional?

Both potentially. I can only decide for one and I am still stuck on mostly mysterious.. I am drinking pink champagne if that's a helpful clue. Seems to work for that highly generalized more and less approach...
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02-14-2016 , 08:11 PM
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02-14-2016 , 11:34 PM
I just explained the difference between scientific and imaginary dimensions to my kid when he asked me what dimensions are? Then he told me the earth is round because of it's dimension and asked if dreams are in another dimension. Glad I had only just enough pink bubbly to still give realistic answers.

What a week of ideas! Love, the end of the world, other dimensions, a hawk, gravity waves, liars, world connected, 2 different kinds of football!!! Dreams... Nonsense, And I think the moon has been following me and others as well? Karma. I can't believe that is even shareable with an AI in the imaginary future.
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02-16-2016 , 01:39 AM
My carbon footprint is bigger than yours.
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02-16-2016 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
I just explained the difference between scientific and imaginary dimensions to my kid when he asked me what dimensions are? Then he told me the earth is round because of it's dimension and asked if dreams are in another dimension. Glad I had only just enough pink bubbly to still give realistic answers.

What a week of ideas! Love, the end of the world, other dimensions, a hawk, gravity waves, liars, world connected, 2 different kinds of football!!! Dreams... Nonsense, And I think the moon has been following me and others as well? Karma. I can't believe that is even shareable with an AI in the imaginary future.
Speculating on the future tech of AI is analogous to caveman speculating the ramifications during the invention of language eg. that girl in the other cave may tell my wife I cheated on her. The point; they couldn't have foreseen W.B. Yeats or algebra. So for it to get heated in a I'm right you're wrong way, was rather silly.

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02-16-2016 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
My carbon footprint is bigger than yours.
I can see you

www.fastcoexist.com/3024554/visualized/a-map-of-the-carbon-footprint-of-all-31000-zip-codes-in-the-us
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02-16-2016 , 08:50 PM
From one of those self-righteous carbon footprint websites:

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Think carefully about the type of activities you do in your spare time. Do any of these cause an increase in carbon emissions? e.g. Saunas, Health clubs, restaurants and pubs, go-karting etc. etc...
F**K OFF!

One site even asked about my banking/financial activates or whether I purchased 'Organic foods'. Deranged Draconian Dip****s deserve no mercy.

Stacked up another huge pile of brush to burn. Flame on baby.

I'm also going on a pub crawl with an old college buddy this weekend. My giant carbon footprint just keeps growing and growing and growing........
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02-16-2016 , 10:07 PM
Producing babies is the no 1 question, surely?
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02-16-2016 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Producing babies is the no 1 question, surely?
Not really. They don't really breathe very much and are carbon sinks, if anything.
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02-17-2016 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Producing babies is the no 1 question, surely?
Of course. Have to oppose Zeno. Don't ****.

At least not for the reason Mother****er Nature meant.
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02-17-2016 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mackeleven
Speculating on the future tech of AI is analogous to caveman speculating the ramifications during the invention of language eg. that girl in the other cave may tell my wife I cheated on her. The point; they couldn't have foreseen W.B. Yeats or algebra. So for it to get heated in a I'm right you're wrong way, was rather silly.

Yeah, some next innovation, invention, or discovery that is unpredictable are values that must be considered when wildly speculating about the future.

In my view, the ongoing study of intelligence is a very important element which interconnects science, even if it leads to occasional silliness and exposes acts of apparent less intelligence.
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02-17-2016 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
F**K OFF!

One site even asked about my banking/financial activates or whether I purchased 'Organic foods'. Deranged Draconian Dip****s deserve no mercy.
Yeah organic foods actually increase the carbon footprint. Average price is a pretty good proxy for human labor hours, and if you spend 3x longer growing organic food than broadacre food, the carbon footprint is way larger per unit of food, since most humans are pretty reliable carbon emitters unless they live a hermit's life.

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Producing babies is the no 1 question, surely?
Yeah kids are the largest possible carbon generators that a single person can create.

The whole carbon emissions thing makes me realize that people are completely insane. We put regulations on US emissions, which pushes up prices, which sends factories and jobs to China, which has 4x greater emissions per unit of output for the same good produced!! (pop article here) It's the daftest thing I've ever seen. People who claim they want to cut emissions are actually putting them through the roof with their stupid, stupid politics. It's like entire classes of people - including most of the media - are incapable of thinking past the first level.

I could rant for hours about this.
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