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02-10-2016 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
You ought to have mentioned that on your visa application.
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02-10-2016 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
There can be constants among your arbitrary choices.

If you are claiming that your love for your partner isn't arbitrary, then you should be able to convince me, using rational arguments, to love your partner.
This is perhaps the most intellectual cuckold attempt ever?
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02-10-2016 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
An Oloroso sherry, perhaps? I made this once:

http://rick-stein-recipes.blogspot.c...nd-sherry.html

and it was very good.
Looks sizzling but that is what some random chef cooked the beasties in, not necessarily what to swill while eating the slimy animals. Should it be: a pinot gris, Hamma's in a can, Dalwhinnie on ice, moonshine from the hills of North Carolina, or a bottle of Grappa? Or just a Long Island Ice Tea? Like choosing the next math class to take - it is all just too confusing.
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02-10-2016 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Looks sizzling but that is what some random chef cooked the beasties in, not necessarily what to swill while eating the slimy animals. Should it be: a pinot gris, Hamma's in a can, Dalwhinnie on ice, moonshine from the hills of North Carolina, or a bottle of Grappa? Or just a Long Island Ice Tea? Like choosing the next math class to take - it is all just too confusing.
No idea how reliable this site is but here it goes lol; (white wine does seem like a safe first choice though, doesnt it, as BTM suggested)


http://www.matchingfoodandwine.com/n...musselsmoules/
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02-10-2016 , 09:44 PM
Un-arbitrarily or non- arbitrarily ?
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02-10-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Un-arbitrarily or non- arbitrarily ?
Take your pick.
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02-10-2016 , 11:42 PM
Ageris isnl skqju snuggle flump.
Berg lrf hi k hick barf barf.
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02-11-2016 , 12:30 AM
Suggested wine pairings with clams, etc

wine-pairing-of-the-week-clams-all-around
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02-11-2016 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Ageris isnl skqju snuggle flump.
Berg lrf hi k hick barf barf.

Rule-Following and Private Language
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02-11-2016 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Take your pick.
The tooth fairy is imaginary. I saw the tooth fairy tonight. I am the tooth fairy.
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02-11-2016 , 01:02 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/premierleague/table

The Tottering Hams duke it out with Man City on Valentines Day and Arsenal plays Footsies with Leicester City. Riots in the streets also?
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02-11-2016 , 01:46 AM
13 games left and Tottenham has the best goal differential and best defense (both by significant margins). It has only second best offense by just 2 goals difference. The actual points differential, 5pts behind now, is not representative of these numbers. I say they will win it in the end if they only believe it now, never look back, as if its a given, a must, an inescapable commitment to declare to the world that the heart of the champion is here now, its ours and is beating with confidence for the epic that is just revealing itself.

If Leicester is now dreaming of a Cinderella story then Spurs must dream of the story of the Cinderella Man! Because the path to victory would be even more torturous and worthy that way.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Braddock

"James Walter "Cinderella Man" Braddock (June 7, 1905 – November 29, 1974) was an American[1][2] boxer who was the world heavyweight champion from 1935 to 1937.

Fighting under the name James J. Braddock (ostensibly to follow the pattern set by two prior world boxing champions, James J. Corbett and James J. Jeffries), he was known for his powerful right hand, solid chin and comeback from a floundering career. He had lost several bouts due to chronic hand injuries and was forced to work on the docks and collect social assistance to feed his family during the Great Depression. In 1935 he fought Max Baer for the Heavyweight title and won. For this unlikely feat he was given the nickname "Cinderella Man" by Damon Runyon. Braddock was managed by Joe Gould."
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02-11-2016 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
There can be constants among your arbitrary choices.

If you are claiming that your love for your partner isn't arbitrary, then you should be able to convince me, using rational arguments, to love your partner.
You may read the definitions here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love



For some reason I can't see New York Jets depicted in the article.
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02-11-2016 , 02:24 AM
The AI that will top human intelligence massively in all attributes will find it impossible to escape being the most ethical being in existence too. It will recognize love at the most profound level ever imagined in this unverse. It will exist to amusingly prove wrong all the naysayers of today. The sweetest victory of them all is the one where all (higher complexity) involved have learned something and improved their condition and no longer hate you. You win together or not at all.
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02-11-2016 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
The AI that will top human intelligence massively in all attributes will find it impossible to escape being the most ethical being in existence too. It will recognize love at the most profound level ever imagined in this unverse. It will exist to amusingly prove wrong all the naysayers of today. The sweetest victory of them all is the one where all (higher complexity) involved have learned something and improved their condition and no longer hate you. You win together or not at all.
So you mean before long my love will be like that of an ape?
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02-11-2016 , 07:23 AM
I mean that love gets refined further with the higher intelligence, provided that its high in all aspects and gets the totality of experience and the issues all complexity can raise, not just a limited selfish angle. The greater love of all is the love for the structure and logic itself and its epic journey. The more one understands the more one can appreciate why things are as they are. The resulting truth removes so many obstacles and explains things that initially looked unfriendly or ugly because one lacked higher wisdom. High intelligence is a very liberating condition. It allows a being to connect at a deeper level with everything experienced and even things imagined far away. It offers priorities a better foundation perspective and prepares the being for the recognition of how nontrivial/careful radical decisions must be because the range of their consequences is further anticipated/recognized now. Its suddenly more possible to understand the drama of it all and the collective ownership of causation.

That capacity is realized to such a tremendous degree in humans compared to other animals precisely because of their intelligence and culture/civilization. Our culture is an expansion of our intelligence, the first ASI so to speak. Intelligence and its eternal probing games is what built wisdom. At the end of the day human culture at its finest moments is something beautiful that allows one to recognize the tragedy and beauty of all around us better (the failures and promises become so much easier to identify). That level of awareness was not available earlier but the more we know, the higher the capacity for empathy can become and the capacity to affect things. As species in our path to higher awareness we have cost the planet so much with our mistakes and habits but the gradual refinement of our culture has the potential to recover and expand all this, precisely because of higher intelligence and knowledge/wisdom that expands the range of what is possible to perform/synthesize.

There is no weakness in love, only a deeper strength finally realized because the confidence of brilliance leaves little room to insecurity which tends to be the foundation of most evil and irrational aggression. Intelligence tends to open doors not restrict our choices. Its the essence of freedom too.

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02-11-2016 , 07:37 AM
Masque,
You may have noticed that as "intelligent" humans, we haven't even managed to contain the AI discussion to the AI discussion thread?
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02-11-2016 , 08:17 AM
If we work together on that thread we can recognize the problem better and maybe prepare for it. Any failure witnessed is because we do not have the proper priority to combine forces beyond egos and see if anything can be done about it other than being pessimistic.

For example we can learn that it is important to have a flexible civilization that can recover a prior level of technology without complete collapse to avoid becoming exploitable by some runaway ASI that is not yet wise enough to appreciate the importance of all this world as it is and the proper way to expand it preserving essential elements of it. Or a global awareness/coordination can emerge that ASI must never be attempted before some other major benchmark/landmark achievements have been met. Maybe we can get private companies to be more responsible in how they handle such experiments or how they design self improving systems (what constraints they put on them).

We could equip any potential self improving system with devices that terminate its growth or abort it completely as system. Some suggestions that could be universally respected are not impossible to emerge.

We can understand how an ASI when developed can exploit a very connected system and try to contain it by becoming very careful at least in those instances it can be achieved by careful planning as a large scale contained effort not some random outside development. In fact by getting there under containment efforts first we may learn things that can protect us from the random occurrence outside.

We might recognize that understanding the human brain and expanding intelligence through that paradigm must take leadership/priority over other forms of strong intelligence research. That route's final product may show higher allegiance to our perspectives/values.

A release of ASI in a world that is not prepared for the consequences is a terrible/risky thing and we can agree on that and see what is the best way to defend against it recognizing we cannot control everyone that will try to do irrational irresponsible things but we might imagine what these will be like and prepare some defenses.


I think in the AI thread there is still a lot to be discussed and learned by all.
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02-11-2016 , 01:19 PM
Love simply, is a strange and familiar thing to seek and find with in systems of complexity. That is, brains are reported to like it like that.
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02-11-2016 , 01:46 PM
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Masque,
You may have noticed that as "intelligent" humans, we haven't even managed to contain the AI discussion to the AI discussion thread?
The AI thread is about killing. Love kills?

I may dig up some other AI threads from the archives. One of the search words will of course be "singularity". Yes!
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02-11-2016 , 02:14 PM
Wow was I drunk or what?
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02-11-2016 , 09:05 PM
I'm not drunk but this seemed like the place to put this:

Does centrifugal force create gravitational waves or are gravitational waves only created by matter? In other words, is the gravity we experience when we go in circles artificial in the sense that there are no gravitational waves extending from a source of matter?
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02-11-2016 , 11:05 PM
My understanding is centrifugal force isn't, it is just the desire of an object to continue traveling in the direction it is headed.
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02-11-2016 , 11:22 PM
Bob,
Gravity is an actual fundamental force between two pieces of matter. When you put two pieces of matter close enough, they invisibly pull on each other.

You can't actually feel this pulling. If you were in space and able to freely move, you wouldn't feel yourself being pulled. The force itself is imperceptible (to humans), as each part of the body is pulled the same amount, so we don't get squished.

What we feel as gravity is our body being stopped by objects, which is actually the electric force acting against the gravity force. For example, you stand on a floor. You feel the weight in your feet from the pressure on your soles. What you're really feeling is your feet being squished up ever so much, at the point where the down force (gravity) meets the up force (electrical resistance). Your body, the fluids, the cells, is basically trying to move down all the way to your feet, and the electrical resistance of the atoms below you (and internally) is pressing back on your feet, squishing you. We're designed to register squishing as pressure.

A similar experience happens when you're in a revolving room, although it has nothing to do with gravity. Your body is trying to move outwards, but the room is trying to move inwards, and the point at which these two tendencies meet is a squishing that you sense, just like gravity. If you get the amount of squishing just right, it feels just like gravity. But it has nothing to do with gravity. It's merely two objects meeting each other and encountering (internal and external) electrical resistance to each other, such that they get squished a little.
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02-11-2016 , 11:36 PM
Thanks guys. So is there any way of distinguishing between this artificial feeling of gravity when we're in a revolving room and real gravity?
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