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09-19-2015 , 10:40 AM
Talking to yourself is good therapy?
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09-19-2015 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Talking to yourself is good therapy?
Maybe so.
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09-19-2015 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I often remember dreams quite clearly for hours after waking up but they disappear* much faster than other memories (which seems reasonable).

*I initially said fade but they don't seem to fade, they're just gone. I'd guess it's because it's a all contained in short term memory and persists just by being recalled. Stop thinking about it for a while and it's gone.
I can usually only remember dreams if I focus on them quite intensly afterwards. As soon as I start thinking about the real world I begin to lose them. Many a great and awe-inspiring dream that should have been the next blockbuster movie has completely evaporated from my memory in the shower.
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09-19-2015 , 06:22 PM
Dreams are great. Part of the mystery. I've read a long while back that stuff like keeping a waking journal and spend time before going to sleep on the ponderance of dreaming helps with recall and lucid opportunity.
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09-19-2015 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
I can usually only remember dreams if I focus on them quite intensly afterwards. As soon as I start thinking about the real world I begin to lose them. Many a great and awe-inspiring dream that should have been the next blockbuster movie has completely evaporated from my memory in the shower.
An explanation of why baths are more commonly found in superior cultures ☺
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09-19-2015 , 07:28 PM
You bastards have me reading up on the state of the art in dream research.
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09-19-2015 , 07:30 PM
*cough* groundwork laid by crazy subjective Carl Jung. *cough*
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09-19-2015 , 07:50 PM
Well, yes, in the same way as alchemy was part of the groundwork for chemistry.
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09-19-2015 , 08:05 PM
I believe you, Brian, but in that case it is astonishing that a Dirac medallist should take Jung seriously.

https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/nl7_Coghlan.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Isham
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09-19-2015 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Well, yes, in the same way as alchemy was part of the groundwork for chemistry.

Your hyperbole here is more fitting for politics rather than science.
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09-19-2015 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
New research shows that the best part of waking up isn't Folgers in your cup. Further work is necessary on the best part of waking up problem.
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09-19-2015 , 08:13 PM
Alchemy was reasonably serious stuff. Definite forerunner of modern chemistry.
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09-19-2015 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Your hyperbole here is more fitting for politics rather than science.
It wasn't hyperbole. He made specific claims that are testable. A noble effort on his part.
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09-19-2015 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
It wasn't hyperbole. He made specific claims that are testable. A noble effort on his part.
If you only focus on the range of his untestable claims and falsifiable claims; and omit the advancement of thought that came from his individualistic and meaningful framework.

Plus you have to stigmatize the imagination, delegating it to a non-vital force of humanity because it doesn't jibe well with math-perfection, averages, or replication.

However if you factor in imagination, unconsciousness, dreaming. Then that becomes a place to explore, only with evidence that only matters to the observer and evidence that changes when the observer shares it. However we can report it, so it can be accumulated for the record.

Where Jung looked and how he looked is way more important than any particular of what he may have thought he discovered.
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09-19-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
If you only focus on the range of his untestable claims and falsifiable claims; and omit the advancement of thought that came from his individualistic and meaningful framework.

Plus you have to stigmatize the imagination, delegating it to a non-vital force of humanity because it doesn't jibe well with math-perfection, averages, or replication.

However if you factor in imagination, unconsciousness, dreaming. Then that becomes a place to explore, only with evidence that only matters to the observer and evidence that changes when the observer shares it. However we can report it, so it can be accumulated for the record.

Where Jung looked and how he looked is way more important than any particular of what he may have thought he discovered.
Huh?
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09-19-2015 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Huh?

Which words exactly are not understandable? The last sentence is a good summary. Though my recent thoughts related to Jung have turned toward Quantum Cognition and the implications of non-locality being a feature of consciousness which may be further indirectly discovered.
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09-19-2015 , 09:06 PM
The entire thing.
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09-19-2015 , 09:43 PM
If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis you shouldn't be making the pool all grody.
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09-19-2015 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
The entire thing.

Probably more practical to just move along then. Get back to how groovy dreaming is.
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09-19-2015 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis you shouldn't be making the pool all grody.

Right, which is your approach to the entire works and influence of Carl Jung. Make it seem dirty. He questioned the sacred cow of strict empirical thinking and explored areas of the human condition which bring to light it's natural limits, such as dreams. Are dreams factual? Can we replicate a dream in the factory, I mean, the laboratory?
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09-19-2015 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Right, which is your approach to the entire works and influence of Carl Jung. Make it seem dirty. He questioned the sacred cow of strict empirical thinking and explored areas of the human condition which bring to light it's natural limits, such as dreams. Are dreams factual? Can we replicate a dream in the factory, I mean, the laboratory?
Huh?
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09-19-2015 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Probably more practical to just move along then. Get back to how groovy dreaming is.
Nah. I want to understand and you have asked for peeps to ask you what you mean when you are unclear.
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09-19-2015 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Right, which is your approach to the entire works and influence of Carl Jung. Make it seem dirty. He questioned the sacred cow of strict empirical thinking and explored areas of the human condition which bring to light it's natural limits, such as dreams. Are dreams factual? Can we replicate a dream in the factory, I mean, the laboratory?
Ummm, no. He wasn't railing against empiricism in psychology. He hadn't even considered the possibility that psychology would be an empiric thing.

Perhaps he was a time traveler,
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09-19-2015 , 10:02 PM
Sober people itt.
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09-19-2015 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Sober people itt.

Half-way. But I've always liked the schools of psychological thinking rooted in self-observation, both sober and in altered mind states. I like the other schools as well. The one's which resulted in medicinal treatment for mental illness get as much credit as the rest I'm my book.

Dreams are groovy. Like beer that happens when you are asleep.
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