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08-28-2015 , 07:14 PM
Beards. That's another thing I don't understand.
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08-28-2015 , 09:33 PM
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I trimmed my mustache and beard just now so I look extra dashing today. And smarter.
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Beards. That's another thing I don't understand.
I'm old and have an ugly large beard. Massive positive EV at the tables as the kids think you are so tight they couldn't drive a needle up your rear with a sledgehammer.
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08-28-2015 , 11:14 PM
I've decided to investigate the question mark?


PairTheBoard
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08-29-2015 , 12:48 AM
You question the ?.
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08-29-2015 , 01:08 AM
This should go in NVG, but a heads up to SMP

The Illinois lottery isn't paying big winners.

http://news.yahoo.com/lottery-dreams...-business.html
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08-29-2015 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
I'm old and have an ugly large beard. Massive positive EV at the tables as the kids think you are so tight they couldn't drive a needle up your rear with a sledgehammer.
No point getting old if you don't get crafty.
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08-29-2015 , 04:19 AM
It's weird that beards aren't understood when they are what happens if you do nothing. It's shaving that has to be understood.
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08-29-2015 , 04:30 AM
What about cutting fingernails?
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08-29-2015 , 04:51 AM
Exactly. Maybe we can understand cutting fingernails for minor safety reasons.

Though I wonder how on earth people managed before short fingernails became fashionable for men?
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08-29-2015 , 09:11 AM
Had a lunchtime half in the Wenlock Arms. Best beer I ever had. You'd be proud, Chez.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wenlock_Arms
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08-29-2015 , 09:50 AM
What about circumcision? Health reasons? Better looking? Smarter?
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08-29-2015 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Had a lunchtime half in the Wenlock Arms. Best beer I ever had. You'd be proud, Chez.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wenlock_Arms
I am though what's a 'lunchtime half'?

I've heard of a 'drop of lunch' but that usually 3+ pints

edit: very surprised I don't recall this pub but it may have been closed when that was my manor.
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08-29-2015 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I am though what's a 'lunchtime half'?
It's when you're driving.

How much 4% beer can one drink before there is any possibility of being over the limit?
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08-29-2015 , 02:57 PM
At what distance would Mo Farah have an equal chance against Usain Bolt?
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08-29-2015 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
At what distance would Mo Farah have an equal chance against Usain Bolt?
Without training on either one i bet at 1600m or 2000m and higher Farah is dominating Bolt.

I think the effort Bolt offers is detrimental after 800m in a dramatic way. So Bolt would have to pace himself and run slow initially much slower than he is used. Then hope he is faster overall and he collapses at 1600 while the other guy is trained to not collapse at all at 1600 and if forced to run faster than he runs for the 5k his first 1600 he will get in trouble by not knowing how to run much faster than usual and possibly even collapsing himself if forced to run much faster that usual. For one guy it will be a matter of postponing collapse due to explosiveness and pacing down himself and the other will need to run faster than usual which i think its within his capacity due to the fact he has the stamina for the big distances and has run these distances longer to know how the body reacts to changes and energy needs (within 3-4min when he runs 13min races). I mean he is more familiar with the distances while Bolt will run into a wall sooner or later because the energy needed to get there is much more significant than the 100m/200m/400m events.

I do think that energetically the longer distance guys are better engines and they know their limits a lot better than Bolt does his own at distances that cover the stadium many times. Maybe the size of Bolt (significant weight and height difference)works against him eventually too in energy terms. Its vastly different to go from 100-200 or even 400m to 1600m than it is to go from 5000m to 1600m. The guy has run 1600 hundreds of times to get to 5k so he will feel a bit easier to adjust knowing the distance better.

Until we run tests though its all speculation. I am very interested in how soon Bolt's body starts working against him due to size. He will have an advantage though that he will need fewer number of steps to get to that distance. So its a combination of many opposing terms.
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08-29-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
Without training on either one i bet at 1600m or 2000m and higher Farah is dominating Bolt.

I think the effort Bolt offers is detrimental after 800m in a dramatic way...
This is a ridiculous answer. I expected better.
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08-29-2015 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
It's when you're driving.

How much 4% beer can one drink before there is any possibility of being over the limit?
I wouldn't even have the half so fair enough. I don't think a pint can put you over the limit and even two pints of 4% beer probably isn't enough unless maybe you're small and fit.
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08-29-2015 , 04:31 PM
Why? Have you seen the math? Why do all these guys stop at 400m and do not try higher to add one more medal for the hell of it. This means at 800m already they have issues that make them non competitive to the genuine 800m people. At 1600m that will be even more damaging. Now the fact is at 5000m and even 3000m Farah is dominating easily (he has won the 3k before). So we need to go lower than 3000 which is an eternity of 8 min for a 9.6 sec guy. So try lower and go to a place that both have problems but its still closer to the 5000 in ratio than say 400 is . So this is why i say 1600, a 3-4 min race that is still an order of magnitude longer than the 100-200m thing he excels.

It cannot be very low like 800m because the 400m Bolt runs is fast to get him in 4x400 relays so another 400m is doable without collapsing terribly. But 4x that will be real bad. The other guy however can do it because he knows the distance and he simply needs to run faster than usual and he does have the energy for it because he delivers that energy in 13 min usually so he can deliver 20% more in 4min and be done. He has that. He has run competitively at 800-1500m before and has(had) ER record at 1500m it seems 2 years ago. At 15-20% better effort than his typical 5000m distance he will be able to see 7.5-7.7m/sec speed and Bolt will need to run now 4-8-16x longer distance than usual (400-200-100 he has run before) with a top speed of 11-12m/sec or avg near 10.5m/sec so at his 100m, i can see his avg dropping to 8 or less before that level. Why? Because he has 8.8m/sec av on 400m relays or basic 400 when he ran these (but he rarely runs 400m anymore). Expect therefore the 8.8 to collapse even further down to maybe 7.5 (for the second 400) say 10-20% per 400m so he will be looking at less than 7 even if he paced himself the first 400 to not go so fast and collapse right away at 800-1000m say even or less by 800m and thats where he will meet the rallying effort of Farah that is a 6.5m/sec guy on his distances that are 3x larger and who has done 7.4m/sec when he run 1600 and 800 sometimes when he did well then (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Farah).

This is why i said at 1600m Farah will be doing better than Bolt. If you want to be very accurate maybe the right distance is around 1000m as i think Bolt can survive another 400m since he has done ok at 400m (45 seconds 8.9 m/sec). So their speeds likely meet at over 1000m somewhere so i made it 1600m for safety. Maybe i can take it to 1200m now with a bit of confidence.

So i think anything near 1600 will prove hard for Bolt and maybe the real crossing is at 1000-1200 or so .


Keep in mind Bolt is a destined to win guy (better competitive ego maniacal mentality) and that also works for him even in tough spots so he may not be in trouble yet at 800-1000m if forced to try it. He hasnt done it competitively because its probably very taxing/risky and it would undermine his other races. But if forced i think he has it in him to at least be ahead at 800m.

Last edited by masque de Z; 08-29-2015 at 04:55 PM.
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08-29-2015 , 04:57 PM
I should have Googled it, of course. The consensus seems to be about 600m. For example:

http://sportsscientists.com/2013/08/...meet-who-wins/

Last edited by lastcardcharlie; 08-29-2015 at 05:04 PM.
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08-29-2015 , 05:24 PM
I think the consensus will find out they are wrong lol and that at 600m Bolt still wins because he has 46s in 400m and another 200m is ok no big deal. Farah runs 1500+ but has done 800m too sometime before and had something like 7.4m/sec then. Bolt has 8.8m/sec on his 400m so its possible to still be near 7.5-8m/sec avg at 600m and that is better than Farah that has at best 7.4m/sec at 800 on one race i saw the times. See how easier it will be for Bolt to run the last 200 even with avg 6-6.5 m/sec if you made it 600m.

Bolt simply doesnt run these things because its not smart to do so. But if he had to he could avoid collapse at 800m and before. After that of course he will be in trouble big time and this is why i said 1600m is dominated by Farah. That puts the crossing maybe at 800-1200 level. Of course both would lose badly to real 600-800m people.
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08-29-2015 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I wouldn't even have the half so fair enough. I don't think a pint can put you over the limit and even two pints of 4% beer probably isn't enough unless maybe you're small and fit.
Being small and unfit would be worse. Fat deposits aren't watery.
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08-29-2015 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Being small and unfit would be worse. Fat deposits aren't watery.
From the little I've gleaned fit people get it into the blood faster. Bigger people don't just have more fat.
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08-29-2015 , 06:04 PM
I am going to go with the guy who knows biochemistry being much more likely to be right.
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08-29-2015 , 06:07 PM
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I am going to go with the guy who knows biochemistry being much more likely to be right.
Okay well my expertise comes from about 2 mins of casual googling.

What you got?
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08-29-2015 , 06:11 PM
Just ask Masque. He'll know.
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