It could be broken down by both. And is on the worldometer website you linked us. At the time of this writing there is no data to show that kids are dying from this disease. I also care about this now that you made me think about it. But I don't know if there is such thing as selfless behaviour. It's the end of the world as know it (and I feel fine) by REM is what I'm listening to sober. I haven't had a beer in two and half weeks. It's really selfish to love beer. And even more selfish to quit in an effort to better oneself.

I was watching Pandemic on Netflix just before I heard of this virus. And i thought to myself - now that's a real job. A highly important job. I'm speaking of course of the scientists on the frontline studying microbiology and devoting their lives attempting to save many others. Even if it turns out to be a total waste of time. We aren't ready for new viruses. But at least we are smart enough to know this known unknown; and best try to figure out how to cure ones that we are getting to know about.

So even in my rural nowhere place, the grocery store put limits on the purchase of certain items. No surprise of course, people in an emotional frenzy simply amp up their inherent idiocy. Just for an example of listed limits is anti-bacterial soap; which is flying off the shelves. Never mind that we are dealing with a virus and anyway ivory soap Or any other plain soap bar works fine for protection in washing the hands Or for bathing; and etc. About ten listed items with a purchase limit, including toilet paper.

The throbbing masses speak!

Fear is the main enemy.

Some might say that it's the key to your soul

I’m out at at a bar tonight listening to a fantastic small-town band and drinking pale ale. Life is grand.

Music and beer. Almost proof of god

The real % risk for healthy people is probably less than 0.5% because most cases are not tested and reported. Why exactly report if in 5 days its over? This is why having access to tests is very important. The truth is very hidden here. Probably real cases is over 10x the reported ones

First of all there are fractions of the population that are more irresponsible or live in more dangerous environments or are in health risk. Those immediately get in trouble and tested and you see cases based on them not the random people that had it for a week and got over it.

It may be true that people that get attacked by the virus daily are in worse risk than one that got infected only once. It may look the same but i see elevated % among doctors and caretakers.

I will be accused of saying extreme things but maybe the ethical duty of a healthy person is to get infected and survive it and then become the shield for others. If a good 50% had it already the others would never get it because the exponential ratio would get below 1 and die naturally. But the problem is mutation possibility may make nobody perfectly safe until a permanent solution is found.

To allow the economy to be destroyed for 2 years is massively terrible outcome that will cost more lives actually. We are not talking recession if what is going on persists for 1, 2 years. We are talking the definition of disaster for millions of people and countries.

So what to do then? Get antiviral medication as soon as possible and develop vaccine within weeks not year. Get population that is eager to test it quickly. Isolate all the weak people and help them avoid others taking care of their business as much as possible to avoid their exposure to crowded situations. Define exactly what are the points of interest in symptoms that you need to act immediately and get help before its harder to reverse it. Teach everyone to cover their face when sick and minimize travel even end all movement outside home. Clean hands many times per day and try to minimize visits to others. Go to supermarket at midnight or after midnight if open. Cook for a while food that wont require you to be out in markets often. Use beans, lentils, spaghetti, eat protein and many fruits. Try to work from home. When working outside keep distances and do it in a way that is not full of fear but based on rational thinking not avoiding others just the stupid interactions part.

Organize community help to people that are in trouble because of lack of business or lack of school food for kids etc. See how to help people that work in vulnerable positions too and bring food to elderly or help them learn how to do it online to avoid having to go to markets for it. Make sure kids dont interact a lot with their grandparents.

Be optimistic and positive with other people not depressed and pessimistic. Sure its a stupid world but its always worth fighting for because fundamentally all is great with a little bit of more reason. Nature and fundamental resources are still fine out there and nothing is wrong really, its all a bs perception.

A society must have defense other than military precisely for such instances. We should be able to modify industry to serve such developments quickly and get people trained to help others so that the health system doesnt collapse if millions got sick same time. You can mobilize 10x your army at war. Why not also in a crisis like that? Many people that dont work now could have alternatives facilitating the defense process.

Later is better than sooner. All holding hands and walking into the fire asap will put too much pressure on the health systems. Even if you win, you're still going to get your ass kicked. You have to intubate making doctors in Italy having to choose between people on who had a better chance of survival.And you'd hope for the most stable health and economic system if/when it happens.

Someone at my bar got busted by the bar-back stealing the TP from the bar bathroom.

Info on Coronavirus:

coronavirus-covid-19#risk-factors

mayocliniccoronavirus/symptoms-causes

whohealth-topics/coronavirus

cdccoronavirus

How it feels like waking up every morning in every other age:

War.

Again.

We should get about a billion masks made as soon as possible and then mandate everyone wear a mask in public. Give away the masks for free at the entrance of every public establishment. Give out tickets to those caught in public without one. It would help if we could make masks that at least give some protection to well people. That would provide extra incentive to wear them. The ones we have now only stop sick people from spreading the virus through their coughs and sneezes.

We should mandate installation of disinfectant auto-spray devices for all common use surfaces like door knobs, elevator buttons, public bathroom fixtures, etc.


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It's awkward getting out of bed when you're dreaming you're asleep on your right side while you're actually asleep on your left.


PairTheBoard

waking up first is the pro move.

Social distancing is becoming the rallying cry against the virus. Also washing hands.

I suggest that everyone wash their hands, as has been suggested by our wisest of politicians, medical experts and OCD sufferers, but add in not washing the rest of your body so as to maximize social distancing.

This probably won't help in France and great swaths of Italy, but could be the answer that saves the rest of humanity.

The liquor stores are still open!

The assumption that the human virus is worthy of saving is suspect.

Why do they keep talking about social distancing as if it's not what wise people do anyway?

Our house is under unofficial quarantine as of this afternoon as a precaution. A.typically routine respiratory situation of the immune system.

anyone coughing that much may cause vague anxiety relatable with escalating panic mentality during the viral outbreak..

So casual, I don’t have to leave my house which I only want to do once a week or so anyway. Plenty of time to write politicians demanding they send our checks.

Only about 5% to 10% of people have any wisdom. And I'm being generous with the upper bound of 10%.

Time for the Kinks:

I was hazmat certified (full-week course with yearly updates required) and also a health and safety officer (additional training) – part of my work duties to be so – for about 20 years. I worked at hazardous waste sites doing clean ups and etc*.

Anyway in times as these; what I learned and practiced is useful and that base of knowledge and fundamental understanding is critical. And that keeps your mind in a rational state – instead of the fear, panic and frenzy that animates so many.

A ten percent solution of bleach and water is very effective in sanitizing surfaces against germs (germ being a generic term for both bacteria and virus). Plain soap and warm water cleanses the hands efficiently (rub between all fingers) with a few minutes of washing – get under your nails also. Use a soft brush if necessary. Avoid touching your face altogether. Disinfecting can also be effectively done with hard liquor – we, on occasion (no joke) would use Everclear to decontaminate some sampling equipment. If you purchase something that is anti-bacterial ONLY; it has little to no effective use against a virus. For example, it is the soap and washing that decontaminates your hands – not the anti-bacterial agent in the soap or anti-bacterial wipes. So plain soap is all that is required for washing and virus decon. Using anti-bacterial soap is not a bad idea it is just not 100% necessary for viruses.

There is a fundamental difference between virus and bacteria. Viruses are microscopic parasites, generally much smaller than bacteria. They lack the capacity to thrive and reproduce outside of a host body [they can 'live' for a few hours on surfaces depending on type]. How much smaller are most viruses in comparison to bacteria? Quite a bit. With a diameter of 220 nanometers, the measles virus is about 8 times smaller than E.coli bacteria.

Bacteria are microscopic, single-celled organisms that exist in their millions, in every environment, both inside and outside other organisms. Some bacteria are harmful, but most serve a useful purpose. They support many forms of life, both plant and animal, and they are used in industrial and medicinal processes.

Useful links:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...t-are-bacteria

https://medlineplus.gov/bacterialinfections.html

Wikipedia is not always the best source but see link below about Virus:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#:~:text=



*Nitrile gloves are used by hazmat and health care workers for hand protection. (Hazmat workers have 4 levels of protection: Level A, B, C, and D). I’ve worked in level C which included a full-face respirator. Screw-on Cartridges provide respiratory protection and different cartridges are used for different potential hazards; from Biological to Radioactive. I only had to work in level B a few times which includes supplied air (SCUBA).

It's just gone beyond the point that I can't predict in any way what way people will be behaving when I open the door and leave the place.

There was TP in Tesco's. But most selections of pasta gone i.e the cheapest.

A girl about 12 feet away from me sneezed. I looked, she said sorry. We laughed as I walked away, while watching her cover her face and sniffle into her jacket as fast as I could.

Then I go to pay and there is no queuing allowed. No lines allowed would be a more accurate way to describe it. Instead theres a scattering of people that are forced to keep as much distance as possible by a security type of guy. And you can only put your stuff on the conveyor belt thing as soon as the person paying has fully gone through. I felt more like being in a scanner at the airport than being in a supermarket.

Finally way home. People not Asian wearing masks for the first time in my life, I see.