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05-15-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
I suspect that some fair number of my strong beliefs are not actually proven or perhaps even provable. It seems somehow pointless to try to assess and reconcile all of those.
That is why I have very, very few strong beliefs.
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05-15-2017 , 09:36 PM
I'd just like to go on record that the President has not revealed any highly classified information to me.


PairTheBoard
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05-15-2017 , 09:39 PM
PTB,

Would you kindly do everyone the courtesy of killing your footer?

-Howard Treesong
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05-15-2017 , 10:13 PM
Let him have his fun, imo. I don't care for them myself but he's a good poster so what the heck.
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05-16-2017 , 12:36 AM
A sex doll that can talk - but is it perfect Harmony?

bbc.com/news/technology

From above link:

Harmony is a new type of sex doll - one that can move and talk.

Her head, eyelids and lip movements are fairly crude and her conversation is even more limited.


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Well that's a fairly accurate description of the majority of women on the planet. Don't really have to advance much beyond that.
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05-16-2017 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
ehhhhh..........I've gotten too old for that. And, tbh, I'm not really very bothered by all of this. I just want to face the facts and I can accept anything provable. The problem I have is w/ people who state as fact what might not be such at all.
Don't worry. I don't think it is likely that anyone is going to scientifically prove that there is no free will. We don't even have models that adequately predict the solutions for simple problems. For instance, no available model would predict whether PtB would choose to use a signature lines in his posts.

On the other hand, I think that it is worse if there is free will. It seems worse to me if the Spanish Inquisition occurred in a willy-nilly manner, rather than for reasons. I can work with reasons at least. A world that cannot even be theoretically explained by causes and effects just doesn't seem to be even remotely comfortable. How would a person expect to affect a world where human behavior is essentially unpredictable? If I don't know what sort of things I might freely choose for lunch tomorrow, there is no real point in making a grocery list.

I mean, what sort of world would it be if it were unknowable whether I might freely chose to purchase Criss Angel tickets due to the vagaries of a will that is free from cause and reason?!? I don't want to live in a world where I might make that purchase!!!
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05-16-2017 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
A sex doll that can talk - but is it perfect Harmony?

bbc.com/news/technology

From above link:

Harmony is a new type of sex doll - one that can move and talk.

Her head, eyelids and lip movements are fairly crude and her conversation is even more limited.


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Well that's a fairly accurate description of the majority of women on the planet. Don't really have to advance much beyond that.
"In the 7th picture in the article why they are posed like linebackers."

"I would rather just be a sex doll. Please stop making me read stuff."

(Interview edited for clarity. For instance, "linebackers" was originally "those football players who dance around like freaks before they do that thing when the other players don't move around.")
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05-16-2017 , 01:13 AM
^ virtue signaling
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05-16-2017 , 04:11 AM
I thought men would be the first to become obsolete in the dildo/robot revolution, but it looks like women will be. Who would have thought?
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05-16-2017 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
A sex doll that can talk - but is it perfect Harmony?

bbc.com/news/technology

From above link:

Harmony is a new type of sex doll - one that can move and talk.

Her head, eyelids and lip movements are fairly crude and her conversation is even more limited.


************************

Well that's a fairly accurate description of the majority of women on the planet. Don't really have to advance much beyond that.
The hacking possibilities are endless. And the pranking. Swap the dolls voice out with their mother's or father's voice...or Trump's. Time it just perfectly when they're going hard at it. I predict an involuntary cry of horror, followed by rapid withdrawal from the situation.

We're rushing headlong into a wonderful future.
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05-16-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
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NH
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05-16-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
A sex doll that can talk - but is it perfect Harmony?

bbc.com/news/technology

From above link:

Harmony is a new type of sex doll - one that can move and talk.

Her head, eyelids and lip movements are fairly crude and her conversation is even more limited.


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Well that's a fairly accurate description of the majority of women on the planet. Don't really have to advance much beyond that.
Le Misogynist?
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05-16-2017 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Don't worry. I don't think it is likely that anyone is going to scientifically prove that there is no free will. We don't even have models that adequately predict the solutions for simple problems. For instance, no available model would predict whether PtB would choose to use a signature lines in his posts.

On the other hand, I think that it is worse if there is free will. It seems worse to me if the Spanish Inquisition occurred in a willy-nilly manner, rather than for reasons. I can work with reasons at least. A world that cannot even be theoretically explained by causes and effects just doesn't seem to be even remotely comfortable. How would a person expect to affect a world where human behavior is essentially unpredictable? If I don't know what sort of things I might freely choose for lunch tomorrow, there is no real point in making a grocery list.

I mean, what sort of world would it be if it were unknowable whether I might freely chose to purchase Criss Angel tickets due to the vagaries of a will that is free from cause and reason?!? I don't want to live in a world where I might make that purchase!!!
Dennet has a humorous take: 'Why do we put hockey players in the penalty box?' W/O free will there's no reason and there's also no chance at redemption.

Pinker has the take I find satisfactory enough, maybe he's right:



Btw, a few years ago I decided to read the Bible and bought this companion book:



Besides the lol I got out of them referring to Mormonism as a cult I esp liked their take that no matter who wrote different books of the bible it didn't matter bec they were all guided by the Holy Spirit. It seems to me that being guided by the Holy Spirit or by causality come to pretty much the same thing in a way.
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05-16-2017 , 03:24 PM
Spring sprung. I had a rat snake jump on nearly on me thanks to dog nosing in the bushes i was working around. There are ways to find out how fast one can move their body without thinking about it beforehand. That is one.
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05-16-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
This is how all book reviews should be written:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/b...kner.html?_r=0
Want to comment on this. Yes that is an excellent review. Note that the book reviewed is by a Frenchman that thinks he knows something about money. And he proves he does not. If you wish to learn something about Money you need to read what the English or Scots have to say.

I recommend this book: The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World by Niall Ferguson

-the-ascent-of-money
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05-16-2017 , 03:44 PM
The French are surprisingly wealth for people who don't understand money and whose colonies consisted of lolAfrica and a few tiny islands.
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05-16-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Le Misogynist?
A category or subset under Le Misanthrope.

Misogyny, like bacon, may soon be unlawful but I'll have both for breakfast any day.

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05-16-2017 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
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That's Matt in the Middle. The other guys are just minions to the rabble crowd.
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05-16-2017 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Spring sprung. I had a rat snake jump on nearly on me thanks to dog nosing in the bushes i was working around. There are ways to find out how fast one can move their body without thinking about it beforehand. That is one.


That raises the question of how voluntary that was: it strikes me as being somewhere between breathing (involuntary) and moving a chess piece (voluntary).
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05-16-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Want to comment on this. Yes that is an excellent review. Note that the book reviewed is by a Frenchman that thinks he knows something about money. And he proves he does not. If you wish to learn something about Money you need to read what the English or Scots have to say.

I recommend this book: The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World by Niall Ferguson

-the-ascent-of-money
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05-16-2017 , 06:33 PM
Proverbs are mostly vile, simplistic platitudes spewed out by sick and demented individuals. Reading the Bible proves it. QED.
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05-16-2017 , 06:37 PM
More art to enjoy. You have no choice in the matter. A SMP Art and Culture Thread would be interesting.










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05-16-2017 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
That may be true plus the guy there can be any kind of person actually under unknown conditions worth examining closer but the coat better be clean a little bit even if old and used and that beard can be easily cleaned or shaved every two three days like most people should do anyway. That takes only minimal effort.

Also even if homeless one can be creative and retain their dignity and first impression to others that can be superficially wrongly perceived. Many places with free bathrooms exist that one can maintain clean appearance and one can always visit a church or a place that helps the homeless and get help in exchange for small community services there (plus likely not needed but would definitely help get connected). You can even wash your clothes for only a 3 dollars per week or so.

Instead of begging for money produce some music or art (any art) or show a skill and get paid for it or sell some basic cheap items that random people can find useful at the spot because they are offered to them free from any other obstacles like specifically going to a store to get these items etc. (eg convenience). (that last may lead to trouble with police or whatever but lets see how far it goes lol and what doors it opens when they try to stop you and you are kind to them)

I have often asked myself what i would do if all failed and i was out of any options. You always have options. Other people are your options and the skills you have and willingness to offer a decent service can recover you. All it takes is to stand up and decide to not let your condition and likely the fake thing (because its likely chemical in nature) that is called depression to take over. The world is a beautiful place and when it isnt it it is always worth fighting for.



It is a very interesting project to actually study what someone can do if they have lost everything say (as function of the skills they have also). Life is hard out there when in trouble but i bet there are hacks that can help you recover everything if you do the right things step by step. I think we all owe it to ourselves and the people in trouble to investigate what is possible out there and know more.

It would make a great documentary reality TV effort to test what one can do if they go homeless for a month and follow their adversity rich experience revealing a lot about our world and depression as well.

One of the possible routes to scientific society actually starts that way. By looking at the homeless and offering a new deal to them that starts in a community they will have benefits and work for them in a reasonable manner of organization that is designed to be net productive and sustainable.
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05-16-2017 , 10:20 PM
I wouldn't be much use in an art thread even though I've been to most of the NYC museums multiple times. I just liked looking at the paintings and installations and - one of my favorites - the armor/weapons section at the Museum of Art. It's one of my regrets that I didn't rent the tour audios so that I'd know a little something, at least.
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05-17-2017 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Dennet has a humorous take: 'Why do we put hockey players in the penalty box?' W/O free will there's no reason and there's also no chance at redemption.
That is humorous in a quite silly way. The behavior of people isn't stable across time and circumstance.

If you don't have free will, and I invite you over for lunch and serve you really ****ty food, you don't come back, right?

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Pinker has the take I find satisfactory enough, maybe he's right:

His view is pretty much the same as mine as far as I can tell. It really only differs from Dennett's in that he doesn't try to change the definition of free will.

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Btw, a few years ago I decided to read the Bible and bought this companion book:



Besides the lol I got out of them referring to Mormonism as a cult I esp liked their take that no matter who wrote different books of the bible it didn't matter bec they were all guided by the Holy Spirit. It seems to me that being guided by the Holy Spirit or by causality come to pretty much the same thing in a way.
You must be of Celtic descent, I think.

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