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Old 06-24-2008, 01:37 AM   #76
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Re: Should string theory be taught in science class?

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Didn't we just go over this? The fact that other theories also make the same predictions is entirely irrelevant. The issue is this:

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Theory     |        Number of predictions
Evolution  |                Some
ID         |                None

Again, ID makes no predictions at all. Every single piece of evidence you can possibly imagine observing is compatible with ID.

Your attempting to obsfuscate. Theistic evolution makes the exact same predictions as evolution. Your inconsistent because you would allow string theory to be taught in science class even though the only testible predictions it makes come from other theories, thats the science part of it(the stuff that comes from other theories). The rest of it is science fiction. Still you would allow the science fiction to pass into science class.

You would not give the same consideration to ID or thiestic evolution. You are inconsistent in your beliefs. The whole kit and kaboodal has to be banned less the children be tainted with ideas consistent with religion. I am surprised you don't want to ban the big bang theory.

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Old 06-24-2008, 01:39 AM   #77
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Your attempting to obsfuscate. Theistic evolution makes the exact same predictions as evolution.
No it doesn't.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:45 AM   #78
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Re: Should string theory be taught in science class?

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You can observe a black hole's loss in mass over time. Therefore you can observe Hawking's radiation indirectly. If you can't observe either directly or indirectly, its not science. Its an idea.

Can you observes strings directly or indirectly?

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High energy scattering will lead to different (and predictable) results if it is point on point or string on string. No experiment today can get to high enough energy to test this, just like Hawking radiation is too small of an effect to measure today. Did you really think that string theory was untestable in principle? It is just untestable in terms of practical technology, and we may even get lucky and find evidence for extra dimensions at the LHC.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:48 AM   #79
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And your claiming we have tested these? You know were talking about testible prediction correct?

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Testible is not the same thing as tested. More than likely supersymmetry will be found by the end of the decade. The graviton as well.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:49 AM   #80
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Back in the day when String theory was career-ruining and laughable, it still would have been allowed in science class.

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You really need to read about the history of string theory. You have said too many things in this thread that are just plain wrong for me to go through and correct.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:08 PM   #81
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Don't be silly, its a great analogy! Theistic evolution doesn't make any testible predictions that are not made in Evolution. String theory doesn't make any testible predictions that are not made in GR.

Prove me wrong. Post one testible prediction that string theory has made that didn't come from GR or Quantum M.

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I should probably just give up, but think about a theory that always agrees with Quantum field theory and GR but requires much fewer constants that you have to put in by hand like G, electric coupling constant, electron muon mass ratio etc. This will obviously be a better theory than what we have now even if it doesn't tell us anything we don't already know.
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:18 PM   #82
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I assume you mean explained.
Best post in the thread. Obviously not answered yet.
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