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 05-11-2017, 03:43 AM #1 TakenItEasy old hand   Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Playing for thin value. Posts: 1,767 poker analogy to QM Given the venue, I'm guessing some variation of this may have been floated before. But I have a question at the end. The analogy I'm proposing: Villains Hand Range QM Superposition example: Hand RangeVillains Hand Range is treated as if all hand combos villain could have are true. all hand combos have a probability coefficient adding up to 100% Superposition:Particles exist in all possible combinations of complementary properties. All property combos have a probability coefficient adding up to 100% Question Since QM uses wave functions, not probability theory. Has anyone looked into the feasibility for using wave functions to replace probability theory which is inherrently handicapped by the random deck state premise. I don't know enough about the math behind wave functions myself.
 05-12-2017, 02:55 PM #2 plaaynde Poker Historian     Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Local Group Posts: 15,551 Re: poker analogy to QM Nice analogy, but think it stops there. Why? Because analogies are about basically largely different things.
 05-12-2017, 03:29 PM #3 plaaynde Poker Historian     Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Local Group Posts: 15,551 Re: poker analogy to QM These two may be touching each other at some integrated level though. QM is a bit far away from the macroscopic level so far. In which way do you think probability theory is inherently handicapped in the macroscopic world? Why wouldn't the random deck state premise be enough? Remember we are talking about kind of a "superimposed" state also in probability theory. This could be a case of Newton vs Einstein, difference spotted at the extremes, but maybe not in a sunky poker venue Last edited by plaaynde; 05-12-2017 at 03:43 PM.
05-12-2017, 08:04 PM   #4
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Re: poker analogy to QM

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 Originally Posted by TakenItEasy Since QM uses wave functions, not probability theory.
Let me stop you right there...

05-13-2017, 12:22 PM   #5
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Re: poker analogy to QM

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 Originally Posted by TakenItEasy Question Since QM uses wave functions, not probability theory. Has anyone looked into the feasibility for using wave functions to replace probability theory which is inherrently handicapped by the random deck state premise.
Quantum mechanics does use probability theory, its just based on the L2 norm while standard combinatorics, like poker, is the L1 norm. You could make a poker like game that a computer could deal based on L2, but it wouldn't be standard poker and would require a much smarter group of authors to write poker strategy books about.

 05-13-2017, 01:35 PM #6 plaaynde Poker Historian     Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Local Group Posts: 15,551 Re: poker analogy to QM David, are you up for the challenge?
05-13-2017, 06:51 PM   #7
grinder

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Re: poker analogy to QM

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 Originally Posted by plaaynde David, are you up for the challenge?
He isnt. Its not a super hard problem though, I'd hire Bill Chen if for some crazy reason I had to supervise this project in addition to doing my regular job. Plenty of undergrads could do it also.

 05-13-2017, 06:57 PM #8 plaaynde Poker Historian     Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Local Group Posts: 15,551 Re: poker analogy to QM "The QM Theory of Poker" Over/under for it will be a bestseller?

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