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07-17-2019 , 05:57 PM
There was some kind of minor election in India.

When the result was known, someone said 'There will be firecrackers in Islamabad'. Islamabad is the capital of Pakistan who are India's perennial rivals. The meaning was that this result benefits our external enemies.

What merit does the argument the success of an internal rival would benefit an external rival have?

Does the Doctrine of Double Effect apply here?
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07-17-2019 , 06:14 PM
When Trump is re-elected there will be firecrackers in Moscow.

What is the Doctrine of Double Effect?

Also, this is not so much a theoretical argument. It is an empirically testable prediction.
The merit being that - a theory which sticks it's neck out, is a better theory than one that makes no predictions.
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07-17-2019 , 07:11 PM
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/double-effect/

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Originally Posted by Al Mirpuri
What merit does the argument the success of an internal rival would benefit an external rival have?
I dont quite understand this. India and Pakistan both consider the election a success?
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07-17-2019 , 11:50 PM
Democracy is a farce, but it is fun.
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07-18-2019 , 11:11 AM
Sounds like a nationalistic, fear mongering-style attempt to mold public perceptions.
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07-19-2019 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VeeDDzz`
When Trump is re-elected there will be firecrackers in Moscow.

What is the Doctrine of Double Effect?

Also, this is not so much a theoretical argument. It is an empirically testable prediction.
The merit being that - a theory which sticks it's neck out, is a better theory than one that makes no predictions.
IIRC, the Doctrine of Double Effect has it that you can do a good thing that may have a bad effect (eg a doctor giving a large dose of morphine to dying man to ease his pain but which may in fact hasten that man's death) but not a bad thing that can have a good effect (eg holding a junkie relative hostage in order to effect a cold turkey rehabilitation).
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07-19-2019 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/double-effect/



I dont quite understand this. India and Pakistan both consider the election a success?
The Trump analogy put forward in the first response should sum it up well.

Even if the Russians love Trump (hypothetically) why should that prevent his re-election if that is what the American people want?
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07-19-2019 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Sounds like a nationalistic, fear mongering-style attempt to mold public perceptions.
Oh yes. Undeniably.
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