The good that can come out of this thread is to finally come up with an ingenious home kit that proves earth is round to anyone with a variety of easy but elaborate in design and logic tests. It would be a best seller and make a killing out there.

For example imagine a balloon that goes up there in the stratosphere and carries an accelerometer that can detect variations of g at different altitudes and remove its own rise randomness and deliver data to be plotted and cleaned revealing 1/r^2 behavior and also communicating from a high altitude with 2 stations that people are located and measuring their distances as function of height. How the hell one is going to then argue if as function of height a curvature is revealed by the time distances to the 2 or 3 sites once you are up there at 10km and can see far away connecting to both with time keeping signals plotted in a laptop down on earth. What the f rigging can now be claimed here i wonder?

You see the time distance difference of signals as function of height behaves differently as you go higher in a plane vs a sphere.

Yeah, those would sell like hotcakes.

Joking aside it would be cool to offer every kid out there the means to prove it to themselves. Reasonable parents that want to build to their kids a healthy skepticism and a permanent search for the truth desire without appeal to authority should buy such things and it would make a nice gift too. All schools should have kits that prove the solar system, earth and the age of earth with simple tests.

The point is you need something that is "easily" doable and delivers results with under $200 cost with all its parts defensible by easily verifiable processes. It could be a drone for example or a balloon system with the accelerometer i suggested or even something so fundamentally simple and still missed. It could be the position of stars as you travel etc.

I do not consider flat earthers my enemy. I consider them my friend if they force me to come up with easy arguments to convince them. The problem starts when they refuse to list a foundation of common knowledge that they will then hold true and from where we will prove them wrong and improve ourselves too thanks to them. If the objective is the truth and not to troll or "win" no matter what merit of positions, then cooperation not war must follow past the point of common agreement. The only win that matters is the one that makes us better people.

It’s good to see flat earth being discussed

The conversation itself (trying to ascertain the shape of the earth) is not stupid. The stupidity of it enters in when the argumentation is embarrassingly poor and intellectually dishonest.

The shape of the earth is a contemporary classic.

The shape of the earth is a circular conversation.

Circle is ambiguous... can mean circular like a pancake or circular like a ball

Is earth an elliptical pancake?

We need to think out of the box here.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...acker-map.html

Hope they won't drop off.

Trying to explain Quantum Mechanics is far more epic though and less likely to happen per person hehe. So lets go for it. The game is on.

Quantum physics is perfectly normal, basketball-earth isn't.

QM is so unfinished business.

Salutations readers,

This thread topic intends to show even the densest of you that the society we live in now was inherited from one which is far more advanced than ours. The evidence for this is all around us in buildings and technologies you have seen but not with the eye of understanding. There was a major cataclysm, perhaps an epic war, and now in this age of man we are the survivors inheriting the remains of a far superior society. All the major cities we now inhabit weren't founded but rediscovered, ready for people to claim as their own.

It seems preposterous that I am going to challenge your entire historical understanding. To demonstrate how easily history can be written by the victors I will also cover additional topics you've never heard of or completely have the wrong understanding of. One being the Empire of Tartary which was larger than Russia. Another will be the dirt deluge which buried buildings worldwide in many meters of mud (also called the Mud Flood).

This thread is going to be image heavy since the best way to convince you of this is through photographic records. I'd much prefer if you would watch the thousands of pictures researchers are compiling into video presentations. Consequently as a time consideration I will be moving slow in this thread responding, uploading pictures, and introducing content, so if you are captivated by any of this please move your interest towards the YT vids Ill be linking. My time is limited so I'll be trying to avoid the majority of garbage posters as much as possible until I've laid out a solid argument.

I want to reiterate that you have seen everything I will mention, so please allow yourselves the chance to hear the reasons behind these things.

Did you know the largest world power of the 18th Century was that of Tartaria?

"Tartary, a vast country in the northern parts of Asia, bounded by Siberia on the north and west: this is called Great Tartary. The Tartars who lie south of Muscovy and Siberia, are those of Astracan, Circassia, and Dagistan, situated north-west of the Caspian-sea; the Calmuc Tartars, who lie between Siberia and the Caspian-sea; the Usbec Tartars and Moguls, who lie north of Persia and India; and lastly, those of Tibet, who lie north-west of China." - Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. III, Edinburgh, 1771, p. 887.

Here's a map


Here's a crest and flag



Here are the people


And here is Tartary getting forgotten about


I will cover Tartaria more in the future but for now the point is that great empires have been hidden and only just recently from you.

Read more here
https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...ussia-once.40/

Watch more here

The Dirt Deluge commonly known as the Mud Flood (which is a bad name for it!) was a worldwide event that has left the majority of our buildings surrounded by a deep amount of dirt.

Did you ever wonder why so many buildings have windows at and below street level? Such as

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Explanations such as settling down, being built that way, or slow accumulation make little sense for obvious reasons. And look how much dirt there is and how much we can excavate just to reach the bottom of these buildings.



This is a worldwide phenomena without mention in history books. It clearly happened within the last several centuries and yet you've never heard of it!

Watch more here

Now in the wasteland of your mind did the thought of why buildings around the world are all so similar ever find its way in? Columns, obelisks, arches, and many more features to a common building style are found around the world in vastly different societies. Let’s have a look.

Japan

Taiwan

Chile

Russia

USA

Iran

India

South Africa

Kenya

New Zealand

Sweden


All over the world we see the most fantastic buildings designed in the same style. How can that fit with the current historical model?

Yes how did people travel around the world. A real head scratcher.

They surfed around the world via the mud flood waves.

Now my assertion is that we inherited the cities we live in and did not build them. The first reason is that even if we could build in such a fantastic style hundreds of years ago, there simply wasn't the infrastructure and time to do so. We can go back and look at the history of practically any city in America and find the same pattern but I'm going to choose San Francisco because it was one of the grandest and least likely cities to have been built in our timeline.

“The Gold Rush of 1848 is often credited as the single largest event that brought millions of citizens to the western stretches of America. Before this, much of the west coast was still seen as barbaric lands unfit for civilized eastern citizens. But with the opportunity of so called “free wealth”, millions flocked from all over the world to get a piece of their own American dream. San Francisco was heavily affected by this mining craze and in 1849 its population boomed from 1,000 to 25,000.”

Here are pictures of San Fran from 1850 to 1900. From a location barely heard of to having the complete spread and infrastructure of a modern city. Who quarried all the rock, built all the buildings, decorated everything – the time and network needed for such a city to be created in such a time frame is unfathomable!






A nice video on the subject.


I’ll cover more cities later. Go look at old West Coast locations like Sacramento & Portland and compare when they say the city got started vs early pictures of the architecture. Does it line up with your notion that a bunch of frontiersmen could come in and create such splendor with no existing resources waiting for them?

THE WORLD FAIRS WERE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

The narrative we were sold about World Fairs is that towards the end of the 1800s many worldwide cities came together to hold expositions of the best technology of the day. NOTHING was there in advanced and every single structure in every different city was built just as temporary structures for the various fairs. All the buildings were then torn down later because **** beautiful things amirite. Let’s just have a look at some of the different World Fair buildings and have a laugh and cry at how preposterous that idea is!









This song about the Chicago World Fair ROCKS!

So I’m talking about moving huge amounts of land to cover up some of these cities. Suspicious that something like could happen? Perhaps some old maps are worth looking at!







And some videos with more extensive coverage on the changing geography.

Hey! You reading this Tesla fanboy!? Atmospheric electricity sure is a cool concept - all the energy we need is around and above us. Every meter you rise an extra 100V is available for use. Well it very well seems that the ancients took this understanding to an incredibly advanced level and their buildings acted as power plants harnessing the atmospheric electricity. There’s so much more to cover in this topic of free energy, buildings as technology, wireless energy, etc. but I’m just leaving a primer now.






Kick butt song!!

Well free energy, advanced buildings, and links to the true past. Perhaps that’s why we see things like this…






Destruction of the prior societies buildings has been rampant, much more than you’ve seen so far in the World Fair and Church post. Perhaps this planned destruction is actually the cause for most of the wars in the world (more on that later)