My question.

Is Paul Lafolley a genius or a madman or both?

http://www.miqel.com/visionary_art/p...ley_intro.html

Does his work make sense to anyone? I read that a CAT scan discovered a 3/8" metallic object lodge in his occipital lobe, straight from the horses mouth.

I was reading about Wittgenstein, the summary book talked about him being Christian. Did he ever explain why this is? I know this is more RGT but ill get better answers here.

Not a reason to post it here in SMP, even in the Fringe Topics Thread. If you wish general information on the philosophy of Wittgenstein then start a thread on it.

If you wish to know something about specific religious beliefs, or religious beliefs and justifications of it for individuals, then post in RGT. The basic principle is that forums must have some fundamental focus to function in an orderly manner.

-Zeno

this thread hasn't done much to convince me that humans have landed on the moon.

u reckon is there a god or no? need answer pretty quick

no

It's within the realm of possibility at least.

Hard to flame away when you've not even given an account. And a UFO story from an unknown, anonymous source is about as interesting to me as watching other people play Monopoly, no offense, so good luck with that.

I have no doubt that if you say you have seen a UFO, you have.

where were you? what time of day? what did it look like? what range was it at? was it moving? how fast? lights?



to answer the ? "what is a ufo" any object that you cannot readily identify is a UFO. if you look at the sky and see an airplane, you can identify it as a plane. if i create a weird device and launch it into the sky and then you see it and cannot identify it, its a UFO.

i love aliens but i know enough to not just assume that ufo = aliens.

Was waiting for this. Let´s start *




*again

I decided to check this tread out and all i have to say is tl;dr.

i cannot get over the timeline that everyone so blindly believes. let me recap:

1961: USA's space exploration totals 15 manned minutes in low earth orbit

1961-1968: NASA scientists work diligently to create, from scratch, the most sophisticated technology ever dreamt by man (spacesuits, Saturn V rocket, lunar orbiter, etc)

1969-1972: USA sends 7 manned missions to the moon (6 land on the moon and return safely while one of them becomes a Tom Hanks movie)

These missions manage to successfully leave Earths atmosphere, zip 200k+ miles to the moon's orbit, deploy a Lunar Module to safely land 69 miles below on the surface of the moon and then the Module is able to blast off the surface of the moon days later and reconnect with the Command Module which was orbiting the moon at around 4,000 mph.

We are to believe that they nailed this mission 6 times in 7 attempts (in outer space mind you) where as it took thousands of trials and errors on Earth to even get into Earth's orbit.

This all really sits well in your mind? w/ 60s technology? developed in < 8 years? in the 60s?!

EIGHT YEARS. not bad considering it took Stars 3 years to implement "auto add-on". In 5 more years maybe Stars will have moon landing software ;-)

Consider this peculiar fact: in order to reach the surface of the Moon from the surface of the Earth, the Apollo astronauts would have had to travel a minimum of 234,000 miles*. Since the last Apollo flight allegedly returned from the Moon in 1972, the furthest that any astronaut from any country has traveled from the surface of the Earth is about 400 miles. And very few have even gone that far. The primary components of the current U.S. space program – the space shuttles, the space station, and the Hubble Telescope – operate at an orbiting altitude of about 200 miles.

(*NASA gives the distance from the center of Earth to the center of the Moon as 239,000 miles. Since the Earth has a radius of about 4,000 miles and the Moon’s radius is roughly 1,000 miles, that leaves a surface-to-surface distance of 234,000 miles. The total distance traveled during the alleged missions, including Earth and Moon orbits, ranged from 622,268 miles for Apollo 13 to 1,484,934 miles for Apollo 17. All on a single tank of gas.)

good read: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html

This really got me to think if Kennedy´s dream ever was fulfilled.

The mythbusters episodes on the moon landing hoax were an extended riposte to this argument.

And destroys your weak pro hoax points.

From scratch? All branches of the US military were developing long range missiles in the early 1950's. Development of the Saturn rockets started before NASA was formed.

The first full-pressure suit was used as early as 1931. A hard-shell suit that was the predecessor to the suits used by NASA was developed in the early 1950's and was being used in vacuum chambers.

The technology involved in this was developed over a much longer period than 8 years and by multiple private, government and international agencies.

Well sure, why would we send these things further away than an earth orbit?

If you just want to throw numbers out there for shock value, we sent the Mars rovers out at least 34,000,000 miles (distance to mars in 2003, which was a relative minimum).

OMG, guiz, so like they say we developed nucular bombs in the 40s! And we used 2 bombs in the span of 3 days, but since then, we've used 0!!!!11!!

I bet Hiroshima and Nagasaki were faked.

My question is,

What is the first thing that you would do if all man-made objects disappeared this instant? (Lemme know if you need further clarification....)

It took us 100,000 years to harness electricity and you expect me to believe we got instant access to midget porn in less than 100? GMAFB

Start expecting the Spanish Inquisition, probably.

Also I had a conversation with the janitor in my building today, and he was saying how we are going to colonize Mars and it won't be hard to find people to move there permanently...and I replied, "Maybe, but Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids / In fact, it's cold as hell."

He stared at me.

You're totally missing the point: there's no one there to raise them — that's the problem. And there won't be if we don't start working on the problem now. I say we could get a manned space program going in just forty or fifty years — maybe go for the moon first, though. That should be challenge enough.

I agree with this. In fact I think the acid test ought to be whether a paper discussing the subject has been published in a peer-reviewed journal in the last five years. This would allow discussion on some subjects which are considered nonsense by the mainstream community but which are or have been the subject of actual research. For instance cold fusion and homeopathy. That's fine because then there is actual evidence to discuss. However it would still allow clear pseudoscience (phrenology, perpetual motion machines, the healing power of crystals, assorted conspiracy theories such as the moon landing) to be confined to this thread as planned.

Donniccolo? Did we send these out... or...?

I would think: HOW ** did this happen?

(If I still existed, in a way I´m a man made "object" too )

First I would try to check on my sanity. I would try to check out what consecuences this has. Are my loved ones still around? What is the weather, primarily: how cold is it? Where to get shelter? Can we survive on the short or middle long term and what to do to increase the chances? Finding drinking water is a big issue. Can we co-operate with the other people around? A former city would be incredibly crouded. All people inside houses would have fallen down to the ground from where they were, when their man-made houses diappeared. Now it is getting really nasty...

No clothes. It´s beginning to look like people primarily in the tropics have a decent chance.