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09-13-2012 , 02:56 PM
2+2, please help guy out:

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Originally Posted by LirvA
Here's what I want from you, twoplustwo.


Around 2005 or 2006 I was walking down my driveway about to go into my house. I looked up into the night sky over my house and saw this UFO.



This is an animation I made. It looks exactly like what I saw. I saw a red dot in the sky, a blue dot dropped from it towards the ground, and both disappeared.


I want you to tell me what the **** this could possibly be.
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09-13-2012 , 03:26 PM
how did I not think to post that here?
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09-13-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
how did I not think to post that here?
We all need a helping hand from time to time.

And I'm too also curious what that UFO dropping really could be.
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09-19-2012 , 12:33 AM
Machine-assisted telepathy?

Yes/no?
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09-19-2012 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
2+2, please help guy out:
Possibly a meteorite? About all I can think is that the material burnt off in the upper atmosphere might burn red while the remaining material might be hotter still and glow closer to white. Just spitballing though.
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09-20-2012 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
how did I not think to post that here?
I saw the same exact (well, not really exact, as what I saw was waaaaay more cool) thing when I was playing on my atari 2600. It was all like making noises and stuff too
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09-20-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Possibly a meteorite? About all I can think is that the material burnt off in the upper atmosphere might burn red while the remaining material might be hotter still and glow closer to white. Just spitballing though.

There wasn't any glow or halos or anything around the lights imo.

They looked exactly like the gif, only more vibrant.
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09-25-2012 , 04:31 PM
How would a spaceship in very deep space exert force to move or stop?

I get it if it's already moving there's no, or very little, friction to slow it down... But given there's nothing to push against or push against it how would it move from a standstill or increase its acceleration or deceleration?
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09-25-2012 , 05:33 PM
Thrusters
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09-25-2012 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
How would a spaceship in very deep space exert force to move or stop?

I get it if it's already moving there's no, or very little, friction to slow it down... But given there's nothing to push against or push against it how would it move from a standstill or increase its acceleration or deceleration?
You don't have to push against a medium to generate a force. When you throw a ball with force F, the ball excerts the same force on you in the opposite direction.
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09-25-2012 , 09:45 PM
oh ok. i thought you needed to push against some medium.
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09-25-2012 , 10:59 PM
When you fire a gun it's not pushing against anything, but the discharging bullet forces it backwards. If a gun were fired in space it would probably travel forever I would think.
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09-25-2012 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
When you fire a gun it's not pushing against anything, but the discharging bullet forces it backwards and "upwards". If a gun were fired in space it would probably travel and spin forever I would think.
FYP
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09-26-2012 , 01:12 PM
Can someone explain how the ruins of Puma Punku are the result of man alone?
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09-26-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
Can someone explain how the ruins of Puma Punku are the result of man alone?
Try the links here that claim theories of how they were transported etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_Punku

Never underestimate the power of human ingenuity when faced with limited means but plenty of time and determination and massive labor force and commitment because it becomes the flag/puprose defining moment of a civilization (their moon shot equivalent). This is the failure of modern world. It doesnt have such large scale projects and the nobility/glory/challenge to go after them seriously as priority and we are moving instead in random directions of self gain efforts rather than collective coordinated ambitious projects.

Would you believe it if i told you that modern efforts to restore Parthenon in Athens Greece have yet to understand how certain techniques to put stones accurately together were achieved with limited means? Many of those tricks are lost in time as there is no more need to apply them as civilizations using them decline and stop building and those that knew the methods and ingenious tricks die too eventually in an era where record keeping of those methods was not actively pursued as it was taught from father to son as needed. A huge mistake of modern man is to underestimate the capacities and know how of ancient human societies. When not yet fully developed science and technology limits your capabilities, its time for ingenuity to step in and design efficient methods/specialized tricks (which of course take more time or highly repetitive effort, often exploiting natural effects) that only when stressed people develop exploiting limited equipment and resources.
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09-27-2012 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by masque de Z
Try the links here that claim theories of how they were transported etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_Punku

Never underestimate the power of human ingenuity when faced with limited means but plenty of time and determination and massive labor force and commitment because it becomes the flag/puprose defining moment of a civilization (their moon shot equivalent). This is the failure of modern world. It doesnt have such large scale projects and the nobility/glory/challenge to go after them seriously as priority and we are moving instead in random directions of self gain efforts rather than collective coordinated ambitious projects.
You don't think that the railroad system, the road system, the internet, the space program (pretty sure that we did take our moon shot recently), public school system, etc. count?!? Sky scrapers? Wireless communication? Internal combustion engines?

Not taking anything away from the coolness of what some stone-age people's did, but massive labor-intensive stuff is miserable for people. What you need to have to undertake such things is a somewhat carefree attitude about worker safety and (most likely) forced labor.

The big thing you will notice is it is quite rare to find a person who is not working on a collective coordinated project. Skyscrapers are not built by one person. Cell phones were not invented (or built) by one person. Hospitals, the education system, roads, etc. etc. etc. It is all collective coordinated effort.

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Would you believe it if i told you that modern efforts to restore Parthenon in Athens Greece have yet to understand how certain techniques to put stones accurately together were achieved with limited means? Many of those tricks are lost in time as there is no more need to apply them as civilizations using them decline and stop building and those that knew the methods and ingenious tricks die too eventually in an era where record keeping of those methods was not actively pursued as it was taught from father to son as needed.
I expect that the next generation will have very shoddy penmanship. As they should. I think we are in agreement that it is good that we do a better job of documenting our knowledge now.

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A huge mistake of modern man is to underestimate the capacities and know how of ancient human societies. When not yet fully developed science and technology limits your capabilities, its time for ingenuity to step in and design efficient methods/specialized tricks (which of course take more time or highly repetitive effort, often exploiting natural effects) that only when stressed people develop exploiting limited equipment and resources.
That part I agree totally with. It isn't like we suddenly grew brains a couple of generations ago, and it is ridiculous to think that we did.
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10-05-2012 , 08:42 AM
yeah we should put all of our resources into trying to make the sun explode because that would look ****ing amazing and be a grand achievement.
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10-31-2012 , 12:13 AM
10-31-2012 , 12:48 AM
Wonderful discussion.
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10-31-2012 , 04:12 AM
When you bounce a basketball does it not bounce straight up? Think about it.
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10-31-2012 , 05:13 AM
Check this out:
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

I call them "the crazys"
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10-31-2012 , 12:46 PM
At work today there was a strange experience. I had this weird fluttering in my left ear and then in my head, it tripped me out and I was a little dizzy, straight after the patient sitting next to me on my left starts talking about there being a door in the wall and asking what's outside of it and if we can go through it, obviously hallucinating. But I can't help but associate the two events together seeing as I can't Remember experiencing this fluttering before and the timing of the two events.

Also another thing, I wonder if there is a correlation between working with mentally ill patients and getting cancer...
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10-31-2012 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jdb
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Q: "Is this site a joke?"

A: This site is not a joke. We are actively promoting the Flat Earth movement worldwide. There are, admittedly, several non-serious Flat Earth posters, but they are fairly easy to identify.
He should have written "around the world" instead of "worldwide".
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10-31-2012 , 02:32 PM
But space is flat, right?
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10-31-2012 , 02:40 PM
A map is representing the earth. We all know it's flat. If that is not enough, just look out the window. Can't see any basket ball rounding.
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